Hold on Rudy, You've taken it far enough now! I've already recognize that you are not a Automotive Technician. I never said that these air filters were not compatible; besides that we were talking about additives, not air filters. I even commented that these were good air filters. And if there are some mechanics that wish to recommend them to their customers it would be a good choice. But merely having a good air filter will not change the fact that the oil will still have to be changed at the regular intervals, or risk losing it's viscosity. See you have to check for information I have it in my head. As you stated you have to clean that filter at every oil change, which is the best practice, if not replacing it. It is only good for a specified increment, so how does this cut down on maintenance cost. It is a added protection that I would recommend to those that could afford it, like you. So next time that we are talking about additives let's keep it on topic. You don't have to attack me at every level, which is plain to see that is what you are and have been doing, so enough already. Your Friend Still! Jerome Pfeifer SR.

Greetings Jerome Pfeifer Sr. Greetings from Gary and Janice Hawkins of Lewiston, Idaho. It is great to see you and Rudy expressing your opinions! Like both of you We also have an opinion! When you start looking at ways to increase fuel mileage it is pretty simple! If your vehicle is tuned up to the max and everything is running at it's best you should get your best mileage!!!! However, You can choose all kinds of additives, some use high detergents to clean your engine to help make it run more efficient others use a slicker oil concept to make your engine have less friction to improve fuel mileage. However again none of these products fall in line as a US Patented Fuel Catalyst called Enviro-Max Plus!!! Best answers are to watch a short Video with Johnny Rutherford on why it does what it does! Well worth the watch! http://www.myextremeresearch.com/hawkins Why does it work? Simply because it does something that No other product does! 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Here'a an angle I'll bet you haven't thought of. DIY'er Oil Change Comparisons: Oil Change instructions for Women: 1) Pull up to a drive-thru lube when the mileage reaches 3000 miles since the last oil change. 2) Drink a cup of coffee. 3) 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle. Money spent: Oil Change $20.00 Coffee $1.00 Total $21.00 ================================================== Oil Change instructions for Men: 1) Wait until Saturday, drive to auto parts store and buy a case of oil, filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner and a scented tree, write a cheque for $50.00. 2) Stop by 7-11 and buy a case of beer, write a cheque for $20, drive home. 3) Open a beer and drink it. 4) Jack up car. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack stands. 5) Find jack stands & your kid's pedal car. 6) In frustration, open another beer and drink it. 7) Place drain pan under engine. Cool. Look for 9/16 box end wrench. 9) Give up and use crescent wrench. 10) Unscrew drain plug. 11) Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil: splash hot oil on you in process. Cuss. 12) Crawl out from under car to wipe hot oil off of face and arms. Throw kitty litter on spilled oil. 13) Have another beer while watching oil drain. 14) Spend 30 minutes looking for oil filter wrench. 15) Give up; crawl under car and hammer a screwdriver through oil filter and twist off. 16) Crawl out from under car with dripping oil filter splashing oil everywhere from holes. Cleverly hide old oil filter among trash in trash can to avoid environmental penalties. Drink a beer. 17) Buddy shows up; finish case of beer with him. Decide to finish oil change tomorrow so you can go see his new garage door opener. 18) Sunday: Skip church because "I gotta finish the ! oil change." Drag pan full of old oil out from underneath car. Cleverly dump oil in hole in back yard instead of taking it back to Kragen to recycle. 19) Throw kitty litter on oil spilled during step 18. 20) Beer? No, drank it all yesterday. 21) Walk to 7-11; buy beer. 22) Install new oil filter making sure to apply a thin coat of oil to gasket surface. 23) Dump first quart of fresh oil into engine. 24) Remember drain plug from step 11. 25) Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan. 26) Remember that the used oil is buried in a hole in the back yard, along with drain plug. 27) Drink beer. 28) Shovel out hole and sift oily mud for drain plug. Re-shovel oily dirt into hole. Steal sand from kids sandbox to cleverly cover oily patch of ground and avoid environmental penalties. Wash drain plug in lawnmower gas. 29) Discover that first quart of fresh oil is now on the floor. Throw kitty litter on oil spill. 30) Drink beer. 31) Crawl under car getting kitty litter into eyes. Wipe eyes with oily rag used ! to clean drain plug. Slip with stupid crescent wrench tightening drain plug and bang knuckles on frame. 32) Bang head on floorboards in reaction to step 31. 33) Begin cussing fit. 34) Throw stupid crescent wrench. 35) Cuss for additional 10 minutes because wrench hit bowling trophy. 36) Beer. 37) Clean up hands and forehead and bandage as required to stop blood flow. 38) Beer. 39) Beer. 40) Dump in five fresh quarts of oil. 41) Beer. 42) Lower car from jack stands. 43) Accidentally crush remaining case of new motor oil. 44) Move car back to apply more kitty litter to fresh oil spilled during steps 23 - 43. 45) Beer. 46) Test drive car. 47) Get pulled over: arrested for driving under the influence. 48) Car gets impounded. 49) Call loving wife, make bail. 50) 12 hours later, get car from impound yard. Money spent: Parts $50.00 DUI $2500.00 Impound fee $75.00 Bail $1500.00 Beer $40.00 Total - - $ 4,165.00

Hi Gary, I am going to leave this right where it is because you can't talk to someone who is using sophism to get their point accross. For the sake of friendship I am not going to respond to Rudy anymore it is very obvious to me that he has a hidden motive by his responses to me. I know automobiles better than I know myself; after all I made a living working on them for years. I know that if you own any vehicle made from 1982 until the present that if you keep it in the reccomendations of the manufacturer that you can fill the tank with gas set a drinking class under the tail pipe and get a class of water clean enough to drink- (I wouldn't advise that you drink it). But this is being taught today as it was when they first implemented the 3cs. Now if you are like me and still like the old models; new as well, than you need to know how to maintain the performance. I feel I have said enough to substantiate my claims, except one thing; I know some women that will make some men look like fools when it comes to Automotive Technology. I checked Rudy's profile and I noticed he has his age at 105, that would put his birthyear in 1901, we know the history of that area from there to 1968, without the details. That tells his motive for his responses to me. He don't have what it takes, this is my last response to this forum on this subject. I only hope I have made enough people aware of the fact that maintanance costs are part of the operating expense of the vehicle, and cannot be cut down as they have to be performed at regular scheduled intervals. Case Closed! Your Friend, Jerome Pfeifer Sr.

Gary, I have one question for you, this is your statement you made, read it and then answer my question: ===================================== Two 16 ounce bottles of Enviro-Max plus will make 320 gallons of gas for our Pontiac and we could fill our tank 32 times if it were empty each and every time so we can easily fill it even more at 7 to 8 gallons at a time but based on 8.5 gallon per fill up, 320 gallons would fill our tank 37.6 times. So Saving $8.33 times 37.6 equals a total SAVINGS of $313.21 per 2 bottles that cost as a user $37.95 plus $8.95 for shipping to your door by United Parcel Service or UPS for a total cost of $46.90 WE THINK THAT IS A GREAT INVESTMENT! ====================================== What do you have to mix it with to make 320 gallons of gas? With two 16oz. bottles of that I could start my own gas company. The only reason you got the gas milage is that you stated that you drove the speed that was allowed, held the pedal at one level and not on and off the gas. Driving habit changed, next the gas you were buying had to be of poor quality for any improvement to have been noticed. It's simple that the gas companies or stations are ripping us off. Every now and then they get caught watering down the gas. Jerome