Hi Carol, Welcome to AdLandPro. I had to reply because I see it was your first post. You have joined an excellent forum and Linda will not disappoint you. Sorry Linda if I stepped on your toes. :-) Nice comment by the way, Jack

============================================ P.S. Thanks for that last paragraph, too. Of course (as you know) I prefer not to have a pedestal, but to sit cross legged on the floor with the rest of the people I try grow with. And grow I do. I grow as much as my students (clients) do. The more I teach, the more I learn. Glad to have you among us - you definitely add to the group here. ============================================ A couple of observations, and then I really am going shopping, lol. First, I have heard it said that the teacher is always the one who learns the most. That is, assuming one is truly a teacher, and not a demogogue. We both know people who are the latter. A true teacher, like you, welcomes open dialog. Everyone learns. Second, I hope that expressing my gratitude doesn't equate to putting you on a pedestal, since you clearly don't want to be there. Fear of heights, perhaps? lol. I myself would love to be on a pedestal, but as we have already established, there isn't any basis for that. hehehehe Sorry, I seem to be having a flippant attack. To Jack, yes you should see the movie, but be prepared to watch it several times. It has layers and layers. I was introduced to it by some friends who created and sell a meditation CD that was inspired by it. It was one of the tools that helped with what I call my breakthrough. Linda, I'll check back later to see who else has added to this fascinating discussion. Cheri

PS, to Carol, let me add my welcome to Jack's. Hope to see more of you here; will look you up when I get back from shopping. Good eye, Jack. Cheri

Thanks Cheri, I also see she joined on my birthday. 8-) Happy Shopping, Jack

Hi Jack! =========================================== I love your forum. =========================================== Thanks! :) I'm kind of attached to it, too. lol. Or more, perhaps, to the people that tend to meet here. I so enjoy the atmosphere here. =========================================== Did watching "What the Bleep Do We Know?" drive you to create this thread? I must see this movie. =========================================== It did, indeed. Peter and I have had some really great conversations about that movie and the concepts that it makes so much clearer. Or maybe a better description is not the concepts it portrays, but the questions it creates in one's mind. It's mind bending and eye opening all at the same time. Do watch it. =========================================== Your grouping makes sense to me if I assume that people that seek your help do it for business and not "Just Shooting the Poop". =========================================== Exactly. lol. When I'm just shooting the stuff with someone, the categories wouldn't really apply. But to running a website or business - very much so. =========================================== Something else that comes to mind is what I call the "Security Blanket" factor. If you have reached a level of financial abundance that allows you to venture into something new or expand an interest, it's possible that your determination and hence success will not be as high because you have already mitigated some risk. =========================================== That's very true. We see that a lot in people who have a primary job or business that provides for their needs. Often they work a 'second' business more like a hobby. The neat thing about people in Group 3 is that they have the traits that would allow them to succeed. That's not to say they have the information they need yet, or that they have sufficient desire to succeed in all ventures - but just that they have the open minded nature and the potential persistance that others don't have. : ) Linda