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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
12/30/2009 6:52:12 PM
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The Life of Muhammad:
An Inconvenient Truth

Newly Updated to Include
the Myths of Muhammad!

Timeline of Muhammad's Life (A.D)

570 - Born in Mecca
576 - Orphaned upon death of mother
595 - Marries Kadijah - older, wealthy widow
610 - Reports first revelations from angel at age of 40
619 - Protector uncle dies
622 - Emigrates from Mecca to Medina (the Hijra)
623 - Orders raids on Meccan caravans
624 - Battle of Badr (victory)
624 - Evicts Qaynuqa Jews from Medina
624 - Orders the assassination of Abu Afak
624 - Orders the assassination of Asma bint Marwan
624 - Orders the assassination of Ka'b al-Ashraf
625 - Battle of Uhud (defeat)
625 - Evicts Nadir Jews
627 - Battle of the Trench (victory)
627 - Massacre of the Qurayza Jews
628 - Signing of the Treaty of Hudaibiya with Mecca
628 - Destruction and subjugation of the Khaybar Jews
629 - Orders first raid into Christian lands at Muta (defeat)
630 - Conquers Mecca by surprise (along with other tribes)
631 - Leads second raid into Christian territory at Tabuk (no battle)
632 - Dies


Origins

To understand Islam, you must understand the harsh circumstances into which the religion was born. The Arabian Peninsula at the time of Muhammad (b.570 AD) was a barren and desolate region with a scorching sun and oppressive heat by day, and a chilling cold at night. There was little vegetative growth, and the nomadic inhabitants lived between jagged rocks and shifting sand dunes.

While Europe and much of the Middle East was transitioning from the Roman to the Byzantine Empire, with roads, irrigation canals, aqueducts, and a culture that included philosophical discourse and theater, the Arabians lived short and brutal lives in warring tribes with little to offer the rest of the world beyond their own harsh existence.

This partly explains the inherent hostility within the religion to music and art, which some extremists, such as the Taliban, take quite literally. Islam does not encourage the pursuit of knowledge outside of itself, and it has sometimes been referred to as “the religion which has produced nothing but religion” (from Oriana Fallaci, The Rage and the Pride)

The inhospitable climate protected the peninsula from conquest and cultural influence, although the Persians did manage to impose a written language along the coastal edges of the region, which is the origin of Arabic. No foreign army felt that sheep and goats were worth taking from the desert fighters and the area was remarkably isolated. The renaissance of knowledge that the rest of the world had been experiencing since the Greek revival was largely missed out on by the Arabs, whose entire energies were devoted to daily survival against the ruthless environment and other tribes.

For these people, morality was dictated merely by necessity, and obligations did not extend beyond one’s tribe. This is a critical basis for the development of the Islamic attitude toward those outside the faith, including the moral principle that the ethics of any act are determined only by whether or not it benefits Muslims.

There were pagan religious traditions in Arabia, particularly among those based in the trading centers, such as Mecca, where Muhammad was born. Some of these towns had Kaabas - cube-like structures that would attract pilgrims during holy months. The Kaaba at Mecca housed various idols, including the black meteorite that remains to this day.

In addition to the black rock, Muhammad's Quraish tribe worshipped a moon god called Allah. Other gods were recognized as well and the town of Mecca was renowned for religious tolerance, where people of all faiths could come and pray at the Kaaba. (This would later change once Muhammad gained the power to establish his authority by force).

Islam was created both from these crude pagan practices and from the basic theological elements of Christianity and Judaism as Muhammad understood them (oftenerroneously - his inaccurate interpretation of Christianity, for example, is often attributed to an early experience with fringe cults in the Palestinian region, then known as Syria).


Early Life at Mecca

Muhammad was born around 570 AD to a widowed mother who died just six years later. He grew up poor and orphaned on the margins of society, which was controlled by tribal chiefs and trading merchants. He worked for his uncle, Abu Talib, as a camel herder. Although his uncle had some standing in the community, Muhammad himself did not rise above his lowly station until he was 25, when he met and married a wealthy widow, Khadija, who was 15 years older.

His wife's trading business gave Muhammad the opportunity to travel and acquire knowledge that was not as accessible to the local population. He would later use this to his advantage by incorporating the stories that he had come across into his "revelations" from Allah, particularly the tales from the earlier religions, Judaism and Christianity.

Having attained a comfortable lifestyle and the idle time that wealth affords, Muhammad would wander off occasionally for periods of meditation and contemplation. One day, at the age of 40, he told his wife that he had been visited by the angel Gabriel. Thus began a series of revelations which lasted almost until his death 23 years later. The Qur’anis based on the oral traditions of these revelations. The Hadith is a collection of narrations of the life and deeds of Muhammad. The Sira is his recorded biography. The Sunnah is said to be Muhammad's way of life, on which Islamic law (Sharia) is based.

With his wife’s influence and support, Muhammad proclaimed himself a prophet and began trying to convert those around him to his new religion. His amalgamation of Judeo-Christian theology and pagan tradition grew more sophisticated over time. In the beginning, Muhammad did his best to compromise his teachings with the predominant beliefs of the community’s elders, such as combining all 300 of their idols under the name “Allah.”


Preaching and Persecution at Mecca

According to early Muslim historians, the Meccans did not mind Muhammad practicing his religion, nor did they feel threatened by his promotion of it. This changed only after the self-proclaimed prophet began attacking their religion, including the customs and ancestors of the people (Ibn Ishaq 167). This was enough to stir up the resentment of the influential leaders of Mecca, who then mocked his humble background against his pretentious claims. (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad was Persecuted for Preaching Islam)

Still, Mecca at the time was a remarkably tolerant society. Muhammad was allowed to attack the local customs for thirteen years, even though the town's economy depended on the annual pilgrimage attended by visiting pagans, whose religion he actively disparaged..

At first, Muhammad was only successful with friends and family. After thirteen years, “the street preacher” could boast of only about a hundred determined followers, who called themselves Muslims. His first convert, outside of his wife, was his young cousin Ali (who would later become his son-in-law and the fourth caliph of Islam). Another early convert was Abu Bakr, a wealthy merchant whose money and credulous acceptance of Muhammad can be credited with the survival of the fledgling cult.

Relations with the Meccans turned particularly sour after an episode known as "the Satanic Verses," in which Muhammad agreed to recognize the local gods in addition to Allah. This delighted the Meccans, who generously extended their welcome. But Muhammad soon changed his mind after seeing his own people begin to lose faith in him. He claimed that Satan had spoken through him, and he rescinded recognition of the Meccan gods (Tabari 1192, Qur'an22:52 & 53:19-26).

The locals intensified their mockery of Muslims and made life particularly difficult for some of them. Although Muslims today often use the word "persecution" to describe this ordeal (justifiably, in some cases), it is important to note that the earliest and most reliable biographers (Ibn Ishaq and al-Tabari) record the death of only one Muslim during this period, an older woman who died from stress.

This fact is a source of embarrassment to modern apologists, who do not like admitting that Muslims were the first to become violent at Mecca (seeMYTH: The Meccans Drew First Blood against Muhammad) and that Muhammad was the first to resort to militancy... and at a later time, when it was entirely unnecessary.

To deal with this unpleasant truth, sympathetic narratives of the early Meccan years usually exaggerate the struggle of the Muslims with claims that they were "under constant torture." They may also include apocryphal accounts that are unsupported by earliest and most reliable historians (see MYTH: Persecution of Muslims at Mecca - Many Deaths).

Modern storytellers and filmmakers (such as those behind 1976's The Message) have even been known to invent fictional victims of Meccan murder, either to dramatize their own tale or to provide justification for what followed. But, in fact, the only Muslim whose life was truly in danger was that of Muhammad - after 13 years of being allowed to mock the local religion. (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad was Tortured at Mecca).


The Hijra - Flight from Mecca to Medina

The death of his uncle, Abu Talib, in 619 left Muhammad without a protector against the Meccan leadership, which was gradually losing patience with him. The true agitator in this situation, however, is quite clearly Muhammad himself, as even Muslim historians note. Consider this account of what happened at Abu Talib's deathbed, as the Meccans implored him a final time for peace with his nephew:

Abu Sufyan, with other sundry notables, went to Abu Talib and said: "You know the trouble that exists between us and your nephew, so call him and let us make an agreement that he will leave us alone and we will leave him alone; let him have his religion and we will have ours." (Ibn Ishaq 278)

Muhammad rejected the offer of peaceful co-existence. His new religion was obviously intended to dominate the others, not be on equal standing with them. Meanwhile, the Muslims were beginning to becomeviolent with the people around them.

Muhammad's search for political alliance led him to make a treaty of war against the Meccans with the people of Medina, another Arab town far to the north (Ibn Ishaq 299-301). This was the last straw for the Meccans, who finally decided to capture Muhammad and put him to death. (see alsoMYTH: Muhammad and his Muslims Fled Mecca because of Persecution)

Although this sounds harsh against Western standards, it is important to note the contrast between the Meccan reaction and that of Muhammad when he had the opportunity to deal with perceived treachery in Medina at a later date.

The Meccans limited their deadly aggression to Muhammad himself. This is quite clear from the episode in which Muhammad escapes his home by using his son-in-law, Ali, to trick his would-be assassins into thinking that they had him trapped (Ibn Ishaq 326). No harm was done to Ali or his wife, both of whom subsequently remained in the city for several days to complete Muhammad's business transactions.

Compare this to the episode of the Banu Qurayza (below), in which Muhammad slaughtered an entire tribe of people based on their leader having switched loyalties in a conflict in which none of them even participated.

The year that Muhammad fled Mecca for Medina was 622, which marks the beginning of the Muslim calendar.


Medina and the Origin of Jihad

Stinging from the rejection of his own town and tribe, Muhammad's message immediately become more intolerant and ruthless - particularly as he gained power. Islam's holiest book clearly reflects this contrast, with the later parts of the Qur'an adding violence and earthly defeats at the hands of Muslims to the woes of eternal ****ation that the earlier parts of the book promises those who will not believe in Muhammad.

It was at Medina that Islam evolved from the relatively peaceful religion that had thus far been borrowed from others to the overwhelming force that it became during the last ten years of Muhammad's life in which infidels were evicted or enslaved, converted upon point of death, and even rounded up and slaughtered.

To fund his quest for control, Muhammad first directed his followers to raid Meccan caravans in the holy months, when the victims would least expect it. This was despite the fact that the Meccans were not bothering him in Medina (seeMYTH: Muhammad and his Muslims were Persecuted by the Meccans at Medina).

Revelations "from Allah" were conveniently provided to Muhammad which allowed his people to murder innocent drivers and steal in his service (Ibn Ishaq 426). The people around him gradually developed a lust for things that could be taken in battle, including material comforts and captured women and children. (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad Raided Caravans to Retrieve Stolen Property).

Often the people captured in battle would be brought before the self-proclaimed prophet, where they would plead for their lives, arguing, for example, that they would never have treated the Muslims that way. The traditions are quite clear in portraying Muhammad as largely unmoved by their pleas, and ordering their deaths anyway, often by horrible means. In one case, he orders a man slain, telling him that “Hell” will take care of the poor fellow’s orphaned daughter (Ishaq 459). (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad Never Killed Captives)

The raids on caravans preceded the first major battle involving a Muslim army, the Battle of Badr. This was the spot where the Meccans had sent their own army to protect their caravans from Muslim raiders. Although, Muslims today like to claim that they only attack others in self-defense, this was clearly not the case in Muhammad's time. In fact, he had to compel his reluctant warriors with promises of paradise and assurances that their religion was more important than the lives of others. (See also MYTH: The Battle of Badr was Defensive).


The Consolidation of Power

Muhammad defeated the Meccan army at Badr, which emboldened him to begin dividing and conquering the three local Jewish tribes at Medina. Their mistake was to accept the Muslim presence, but to reject Muhammad's claim that he was in the line of Jewish prophets. His stories from the Torah simply did not agree with their own. (Muhammad's recited version of Bible stories sounds more like fairy tales with the same moral - believe in his personal claim to be a prophet or else).

How these three tribes, the Banu Qaynuqa, the Banu Nadir, and the Banu Quyrayza met their fate is insightful into the Muslim mindset, which employs an inherent double standard in its relations with those outside the faith.

First, to try and gain their favor, Muhammad briefly preached that Christians and Jews could attain salvation through their own faith. In fact, he changed his followers' direction for prayer from Mecca to Jerusalem, which prompted the Jews' tolerance of him while he worked surreptitiously for the power to evict them. These earlier concessions and teachings were later revoked by Muhammad, since the Jews ultimately refused his religion. The rare early verses of tolerance in the Qur'an are abrogated by later verses such as 9:29.

The Jews' knowledge of the Torah naturally threatened Muhammad's credibility, since they were able to easily refute his claims to prophethood and show where his own narrations contradicted established scripture. On the other hand, the Arab polytheists converted to Islam in large numbers, which soon gave Muhammad the power to make his intentions clear to the Jews:

While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle." Bukhari 53:392

The Jews of Mecca were the first in a very long line of unfortunate people to be offered the opportunity to convert to Islam under obvious duress. Forcible conversion is very much a Muslim tradition started by Muhammad (seeMYTH: Muhammad Rejected Conversions to Islam made under Duress)

Since they chose to hold on to their religion (and their property) Muhammad looked for reasons to go to war against the Jews at Medina. According to some Muslims, the first tribe, the Qaynuqa, were driven from their homes and land on the pretext that one of their own had harassed a Muslim woman. Although the offender was killed prior to this by a Muslim, the Muslim was also killed by Jews in retaliation for the first murder.

After laying siege to the entire community and defeating the tribe, Muhammad wanted to put every male member to death, but was talked out of it by an associate - something that Allah later "rebuked" him for. The Qaynuqa were forced into exile and the Muslims took their possessions and property, making it their own. Muhammad personally reserved a fifth of the ill-gotten gain for himself (a rule that he was sure to include in the Qur'an).

This episode helped ingrain within Islam the immature principle of group identity, whereby any member of a religion or social unit outside of Islam is just as guilty as any of their peers who insult or harm a Muslim - and just as deserving of punishment. (Muhammad's punishments usually did not fit the crime).

Members of the second tribe, the Banu Nadir, were accused by Muhammad of plotting to kill him. What is most intriguing about this episode is that it occurred after the Muslims had killed several prominent Jews on Muhammad's order, including a leader of the Banu Nadir (named Ka'b al-Ashraf). (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad Never Approved of Murder)

When the prophet of Islam learned that he might be targeted in retaliation (something that he claimed was "revealed" to him by Allah), he promptly laid siege to the Banu Nadir community. After forcing them to surrender, these original inhabitants of Medina were then banished from their homes and land by the Muslim newcomers, who again started to take as much as they could for themselves (Ibn Ishaq 653). (To the disappointment of his people, this time Muhammad produced arevelation from Allah that allowed him to confiscate the entire portion for himself).

In a critical example of how deception is sanctioned under Islam, a surviving contingent of the Banu Nadir (under Usayr ibn Zarim) was later tricked into leaving their fortress by promise of peace talks. The contingent of Muslims sent by Muhammad to "escort" them, however, easily slaughtered the victims once they let down their guard (Ibn Ishaq 981). (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad always Disapproved of Dishonesty).


The Qurayza Massacre

By the time the Banu Qurayza met their fate, Muhammad was wealthy and powerful from his defeat of the other two tribes.

The Jews of the Banu Qurayza tasted Muhammad's wrath after their leader half-heartedly sided with the Meccan army during a siege of Medina (the Battle of the Trench). By then, Muhammad had evicted the other Jews and declared that all land at Medina belonged to him, so the original constitution of the town was no longer in effect. It is important to note that the Qurayza did not attack the Muslims, even after switching loyalties (contrary to another popular myth).

Although the Qurayza surrendered peacefully to the Muslims, Muhammad determined to have every man of the tribe executed, along with every boy that had reached the initial stages of puberty (between the ages of 12 and 14). He ordered a ditch dug outside of the town and had the victims brought to him in several groups. Each person would be forced to kneel, and their head would be cut off and then dumped along with the body into the trench.

Between 700 and 900 men and boys were slaughtered by the Muslims after their surrender.

The surviving children of the men became slaves of the Muslims, and their widows became sex slaves. This included the Jewish girl, Rayhana, who became one of Muhammad's personal concubines the very night that her husband was killed. The prophet of Islam apparently "enjoyed her pleasures" (ie. raped her) even as the very execution of her people was taking place.

In some ways, women were much like any other possession taken in battle, to be done with however their captors pleased. But Muslims found them useful in other ways as well. In fact, one of the methods by which Islam owed its expansion down through the centuries was through the reproductive capabilities of captured women. In addition to four wives, a man was allowed an unlimited number of sex slaves, with the only rule being that any resulting children would automatically be Muslim.

Muhammad ordered that a fifth of the women taken captive be reserved for him. Many were absorbed into his personal stable of sex slaves that he maintained in addition to his eleven wives. Others were doled out like party favors to others. (See MYTH: Muhammad was an Abolitionist)

At one point following a battle, Muhammad provided instructions on how women should be raped after capture, telling his men not to worry about coitus interruptus, since "Allah has written whom he is going to create." (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad Never Approved of Rape)

Following the battle against the Hunain, late in his life, Muhammad's men were reluctant to rape the captured women in front of their husbands (who were apparently still alive to witness the abomination), but Allah came to the rescue with a handy "revelation" that allowed the debauchery. (This is the origin of Sura 4:24 according to Abu Dawud 2150).


The Origin of Islamic Imperialism

The tribes around the Muslims began to convert to Islam out of self-preservation. Those that didn’t were gradually defeated in battle in a pattern that became the blueprint for the successful establishment of Islam as a world religion. Typically, the enemy’s trust would be gained by non-intrusive measures in which the Muslims would insert themselves into the foreign community while professing their respect for local traditions and political structures. As they began to gain power, however, they would divide loyalties and exercise violence to acquire local hegemony.

The excuse for military campaign began to shrink to the point that it hardly existed at all. Muhammad openly attributed his own success to terror (Bukhari 52:220) and told his followers that Muslims were meant to rule over other people. This became the driving force behind Jihad. (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad Waged War Only in Self-Defense).

The brutal conquest of the people of Khaybar, a peaceful farming community that was not at war with the Muslims, is a striking example of this. Muhammad marched in secret, took them by surprise and easily defeated them. He had many of the men killed, simply for defending their town, enslaved women and children, and had surviving men live on the land as virtual serfs, paying Muslims an ongoing share of their crops not to attack them again.

Muhammad suspected that the town's treasurer was holding out and had his men barbarically torture the poor fellow by building a fire on his chest until he revealed the location of hidden treasure. (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad Never Approved Torture).

Afterwards, the prophet of Islam beheaded the man and "married" his wife on the same day that she became a widow (she was forced to first pass through the hands of one of his lieutenants). Given that the woman's father was also killed by Muhammad, it isn't much of a stretch to say that true love had very little to do with this "marriage."


A Life of Hedonism and Narcissism

Muhammad's personal life became the picture of hedonism and excess, all justified by frequent “revelations.” (See also MYTH: Muhammad was a Brave Warrior who Trusted in Allah to Protect him). In his later years, he frequently used his influence for purely personal goals, including sex, wealth and power. Allah's authority for him to pursue these earthly ambitions were even immortalized in the Qur'an.

For example, the man, who earlier in his career had justified his claims as a prophet by saying that he "asked for no reward" from others, reversed course and began to demand a fifth or more of all booty taken from conquered tribes. According to his biographers, he became fat from living off this enormous share of ill-gotten gain.

In the span of a dozen years, he married eleven women and had access to an array of sex slaves (seeMYTH: Muhammad Married Multiple Women as a Favor to them). When he wanted a woman, even if she were the wife of another man, his own daughter-in-law, or a child as young as 6-years-old (seeMYTH: Muhammad Condemned Pedophilia), Muhammad was able to justify his lust and inevitable consummation with an appeal to Allah’s revealed will for his sex life - which was then preserved forever in the Qur'an, to be faithfully memorized by future generations for whom it has no possible relevance.

(For the Muslim faithful, it must surely be a source of embarrassment that Allah evidently had more interest in Muhammad's personal sex life than he did about tolerance. There are also far more open-ended Qur'anic verses that advocate "fighting in the cause of Allah" than there are in showing love for all people. Allah encourages sex with slaves in multiple places as well).

The prophet of Islam was an extremely superstitious person, leaving many bizarre rules for Muslims to follow, including which direction they should defecate and how many stones they should wash their anus with afterwards (any odd number... for those curious). (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad did Away with Superstition).

Muhammad also had personal critics executed, including poets. One of these was a mother of five children, who was stabbed to death by Muhammad's envoy after a suckling infant was removed from her breast (seeMYTH: Muhammad Never Killed Women). Other innocent people were killed merely because they were of a different religion, sometimes including children (seeMYTH: Muhammad Never Killed Children).

The double standards of Islam that are so recognizable today were ingrained by the prophet of Islam during his lifetime. An example would be the death of Umm Qirfa, an elderly woman who had the bad fortune to be the member of a tribe targeted by Muhammad's raiders.

Muhammad's adopted son tied the woman's legs separately to two camels, then set the camels off in opposite directions, tearing the woman's body in two. He also killed her two young sons - presumably in gruesome fashion - as well. (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad Never Killed the Elderly).

Today's Muslims inherit this legacy of self-consumption and disregard for those outside the faith. They may or may not agree with terrorist attacks on non-Muslims, but they are nearly united in their belief that the victims have no right to strike back, even if it is in self-defense.

The Qur'an distinguishes Muslims from others, bestowing the highest praise for believers while heaping the vilest condemnation on those outside the faith. Islam is a true supremacist ideology. (See also Is the Qur'an Hate Speech?)


The Taking of Mecca

Though many of the Arab and Jewish tribes were eliminated and absorbed through military victory and forced conversion, the city of Mecca remained.

In 628, six years after fleeing, Muhammad’s followers were allowed to re-enter the city under an agreement whereby he set aside his title as “Prophet of Allah.” This was a temporary ploy that enabled him to gain a political foothold in the city through the same “fifth column” activities that are still used today by organizations such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), which use their host’s language of religious tolerance to disguise an ulterior agenda that includes systematic discrimination against non-Muslims.

Many of his followers were disappointed that Muhammad had made concessions to the Meccans, not understanding how it actually fit perfectly with his ultimate agenda of domination. It was during this time that he led the campaign against the Khaybar, to assuage their lust for blood and looting.

Technically, Muhammad was the first to break the treaty with the Meccans when he violated the portion of it that restricted him from accepting members of the other tribe into his camp. His own people also staged deadly raids on Meccan caravans (seeMYTH: The Meccans were the First to Break the Treaty of Hudaibiya). Although he evidently had no personal obligation to the treaty, the prophet of Islam held the other party to the letter of the law, particularly after he amassed the power to conquer in overwhelming fashion.

The excuse that Muhammad eventually used to march his armies into Mecca was provided when a tribe allied to the Meccans conducted a raid on a tribe allied with the Medinans. Although a true man of peace would have heeded the fact that his enemy did not want war, and used non-violent means to resolve the tension while respecting sovereignty, Muhammad merely wanted power and vengeance. (See alsoMYTH: Muhammad always Chose Peace over War).

This became the pattern of Islam's dramatic expansion following Muhammad's death. Muslims would conquer a region and sign "peace treaties" with new neighbors. Then, when they were confident in their military strength, the Muslims would look for an excuse to provoke a conflict and renew aggression.

Following Mecca's surrender, Muhammad put to death those who had previously insulted him (see alsoMYTH: Muhammad was a Forgiving Man). One of the persons sentenced was his former scribe, who had written revelations that Muhammad said were from Allah. The scribe had previously recommended changes to the wording that Muhammad offered (based on some of the bad grammar and ineloquent language of "Allah") and Muhammad agreed. This caused the scribe to apostatize, based on his belief that real revelations should have been immutable.

Although the scribe escaped death by "converting to Islam" at the point of a sword, others weren't so lucky. One was a slave girl who was executed on Muhammad's order because she had written songs mocking him.

In what would also become the model for future Muslim military conquests, those Meccans who would not convert to Islam were required to accept third-class status. Not surprisingly, almost the entire city - which had previously rejected his message - immediately "converted" to Islam once Muhammad came back with a sword in this hand.

Those who would not convert to Islam were banned from the city a few months later - again underscoring the dual ethics of Islam. When Muhammad was previously banned from Mecca, he described it as a "persecution" that justified his "slaughter" of those who prevented him from performing the Haj. Yet, when he attained power, he immediately chased anyone who would not convert to Islam from Mecca and prevented them from performing the Haj.

To this day, people of other religions are barred even from entering Mecca, the city where Muhammad was free to preach in contradiction to the established religion. Islam is far less tolerant even than the more primitive Arab religion that it supplanted. A person preaching the original Arab polytheism on the streets of Mecca today would be quickly executed.


Jihad and Jizya

Tellingly, some of the most violent verses in the Qur'an were handed down following Muhammad's ascension to power, when there was no threat to the Muslim people. The 9th Sura of the Qur'an exhorts Muslims to Jihad and dominance over other religions:

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." (9:29)

The verse that follows curses Christians and Jews by name and says "May Allah destroy them" (as with other sections of the Qur'an, it is unclear whether it is Allah or Muhammad speaking).

Before his death, Muhammad ordered 30,000 men to march on Christian lands (which were Byzantine at the time). It is possible that he believed false rumors of an army amassed against him, but there is absolutely no evidence of such a force having been assembled. Instead, Muhammad subjugated the local people and extorted "protection" money from them - something that has come to be known as the jizya (a tax that non-Muslims pay to Muslims).

Another episode from this period that offers insight into the legacy of Muhammad is the forced conversion of the al-Harith, one of the last Arab tribes to hold out against Muslim hegemony. Muhammad gave the chief of the tribe three days to accept Islam before sending his army to destroy them.

Not surprisingly, the entire people immediately accepted the Religion of Peace!

Most Arab tribes recognized Muhammad's quest for power and wisely pledged their political allegiance without a fight. This quickly presented a problem for his core band of followers, however, since they had become used to living off of what could be stolen from others via raids and battle.

Since it was against the rules to attack fellow Muslims, Muhammad began demanding tribute from his new "converts" instead, but this proved to be less profitable than the jizya - not to mention that it carried the risk of internal resentment and strife.

Khaybar, the remote Jewish city that had been turned into a sharecropper state on behalf of its Muslim masters was a more preferable economic model for a growing Islamic empire that had become dependent on extortion justified by religious superiority.

Years before attacking Christian and Persian lands, Muhammad wrote to governors in each, telling them,"embrace Islam and you will be safe." There was no mention of oppression or liberation cited as a justification. The only threat these people faced would be from Muslim armies. (Only six years later, 4,000 peasants in the modern-day Palestinian region would be slaughtered for defending their homes).

At the time, thewealth of other nations was an open source of envy among Muhammad'sfollowers, which he promised to rectify. The subsequent militaryexpansion that he set in motion may have been sanctioned by Allah andpowered by religious zealotry, but the underlying motives of money,sex, slaves and power were no less worldly than any other conqueror ofthe time.


The Legacy of Islamic Imperialism

Muhammad died of a fever in 632 at the age of 63, with his violent religion now firmly rooted in the Arab lands. Through his teachings, his followers viewed worldly life as a constant physical battle between the House of Peace (Dar al-Salaam) and the House of War (Dar al-Harb). Muslims are instructed to invite their enemies to either embrace Islam, pay jizya (protection money), or die.

Over the next fourteen centuries, the bloody legacy of this extraordinary individual would be a constant challenge to those living on the borders of the religion’s hegemony. The violence that Muslim armies would visit on people across North Africa, the Middle East, Europe and into Asia as far as the Indian subcontinent is a tribute to a founder who condoned subjugation, rape, murder and forced conversion in the cause of spreading the rule of his religion.

In Muhammad's words: "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them..." (Bukhari 8:387)

It is certainly the basis not just for modern day terror campaigns against Western infidels (and Hindus and Buddhists) but also the broad apathy that Muslims across the world have to the violence, which is an obvious enabler.

As Indonesian cleric, Abu Bakar Bashir recently put it, "If the West wants to have peace, then they have to accept Islamic rule."

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
12/31/2009 12:25:50 AM
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Hi Peter,

I'm replying to your post in regards to number of deaths caused by Muslims.

1. Majority of the cases are in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

Notethat this is where Americans are right now and where the unrest ishappening due to their presence there anyway. I was reading articles onBlackwater activities in those countries where Blackwater contractorsare also Muslims and take part in actions which are in the end beingidentified as action cause by Muslims, yet there are part of militaryactions directed by US, particularly in Pakistan. In any instancegiving statistics in countries where there is war is not a good prooffor anything but the war itself.


Oh my Bogdan, I guess you missed the point of the statistics I posted. The web site where all this is found is dedicated to terrorist attacks only. It doesn't mix in military activities whether by the US military, Blackwater, the Iraqi military or any other military organization. Please don't try and make military units out of Radical Islam terrorist groups and organizations. You must stop trying to find excuses for numbers that can't be refuted. If you can't blame it on the CIA I guessBlackwater will do but it just doesn't work.

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2. Those cases as reportedcaused by Muslims are happening in Muslims countries. This means thatany common criminal case caused in those countries will be caused byMuslims regardless what is its motivation. Keep in mind that there islots of commons crimes in countries where there are no Muslims.

Look here at several link which report on civilian deaths in Iraq due to American invasion.
It is being estimated that just until 2006 there were over 1 mln Iraqi civilians killed due to Americans.

http://politicalcartel.blogspot.com/2008/03/iraqi-deaths-due-to-us-invasion.html
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/deathcount/explanation
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11674.htm


And here you have statistics caused just in USA year by year due to common crimes.
Please, please don't tell me that crime caused by common criminals is better because it is not due to fundamentalism.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
Just in 2008 there were 16,272 deaths in US due to murder.

Put those number next to each other and tell me how they stuck up.

Bogdan Fiedur


C'mon Bogdan, these lists aren't about crimes or criminals they are outright terrorist attacks perpetrated by Radical Islamic Jihadis. You have to differentiate between criminals that every country has and the deaths caused by them to deaths caused in the name of Islam by Radical JihadiTerrorists. And yes there is a difference and it's a very obvious one.The criminals make life difficult but they're not trying to change your religion, dominate you in all aspects of your life and have a plan to dominate the world. All in the name of their religion based on the words of their prophet that has every negative character trait you canthink of.

It seems that facts make no impression on you and you'll look for excuses to try and show they aren't infact murders in the name of Radical Islam and others are responsible. But, there is no escaping reality and facts.

Did you know that during the years Saddam Hussein was in power in Iraq he killed over 600,000 citizens of Iraq? Over 500,000 during the war with Iran? Or let's talk about Sudan (Darfur). Have you any idea how many Muslims were butchered in the name of Islam. How about the Coptic Christians in Egypt. Discriminated and killed again all in the name of Sharia law and Radical Islam. Maybe you'd like to discuss the situation in Saudi Arabia? How about in Somalia??

Bogdan the list goes on and on. BTW, the list of Jihadi terrorist attacks are only the results of the past 2 months. Ican post if you wish the full list for 2009 and then from 2001- 2008. Radical Islam and their Jihadi terrorist attacks are facts of life. Ignore them if you wish or find excuses for them but more and more people are becoming aware of the dangers of Radical Islam and their agenda for world domination. I wonder if you bothered to read the charters of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah and all the others. They are eye openers but I'm quite sure you won't find them on the info wars web site. Again, I'd be more then glad to supply you with the appropriate links or you can google them.

Since 9/11/2001 there were over 14,598 Jihadi terrorist attacks. the list isn't accurate cos it only has the documented attacks while there are many that weren't documented.

Shalom,

Peter


About the List of Terrorist Attacks

This list of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims since 9/11/01 (a rate of about three or four a day) is incomplete because only a small percentage of attacks were picked up by international news sources, even those resulting in multiple loss of life.

These are not incidents involving nominal Muslims killing for money or personal pride. This is not ordinary crime. We include violent incidents that can reasonably be determined to have been committed out of religious duty - as interpreted by the perpetrator.

We usually list only attacks that result in loss of life (with a handful of exceptions). In several cases, the victims are undercounted because deaths from trauma caused by the Islamists may occur in later days, despite the best efforts of medical personnel to keep the victims alive.

We usually don't include incidents related to combat, such as in Iraq and Afghanistan, unless it involves particularly heinous terrorist tactics. Unprovoked sniper, drive-by or roadside bombing attacks on military personnel serving normal police duties are sometimes included depending on the circumstances.

We acknowledge that a handful of incidents on the list may not fit the traditional definition of 'terror attack.' A small portion, for example, are of honor killings - although we very rarely include those in which a woman is killed by their husband, since this is often indistinguishable from a crime of passion (barring explicit circumstances).

Unfortunately, this list of Muslim terrorist attacks barely scratches the surface of atrocities committed in the name of Islam that occur world-wide each day. For that reason, we don't tally up the dead and dismembered, except on a weekly and monthly basis.

As an example, most news articles on theviolence in Southern Thailand note that about 900 people were killed in2005. We estimate that 150 of these deaths are of the Islamicmilitants themselves, which means they killed some 750 people thatyear. But TROP only recorded the deaths of 314. We underreported morethan half in a country with a decent news infrastructure. Imagine whatwe don't catch in the Sudan, where the toll runs into the hundreds ofthousands!

The ridiculous level of violence that Islam serves up to the world makes it impossible to compile a complete list.

The incidents are collected each day from public news sources. There is no rumor or word-of-mouth involved. Although every attempt is made to be accurate and consistent, we are not making the claim that this is a scientific undertaking.

No other religion inspires the sort of terrorism that the "Religion of Peace" produces. We hope that this list offers a dose of perspective against so-called "Islamophobia" and other Muslim complaints that are petty by comparison. As the siteBare Naked Islam puts it, "It isn't Islamophobia when they really are trying to kill you."

Who knows - perhaps one day Muslims will have a change of heart and decide to take the sort of action that one might expect of people who believe that it really is wrong to kill in the name of their religion. We'll know when this happens because it will be when Islam exchanges self-absorbed whining for true contrition and an end to the violence.

Go back to the List of Islamic Terrorist Attacks

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
12/31/2009 2:16:19 AM
Hi Jim,

Helen posted a very interesting article on my HSIG thread and I feel it deserves to be posted here too fo maximum exposure. This is frightening stuff and you can see exactly what's going to happen in the United States with B Hussein Obowma the great pretender sitting up there in the White House.


Shalom,

Peter

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Hello Peter
I don't know why the article is framed in or sectioned like it is with the yellow background. I didn't put it there and I don't know how to get rid of it.
Have you seen anything about this woman? Her name is Kitty Werthmann. She's very alert for her age of 81 in the video, now is 83. She doesn't even let Alex Jones' interruptions throw her off.

What's surprising is that there is nothing on YouTube that I could find.

First read the speech below and then go to these links....

Video/audio (done in 2007)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1758808539498490012#

article.... (written in 2009)
http://earthhopenetwork.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=3281


This speech is by a woman who lived in Austria when Hitler came to power there. He did not do it by force, he was elected overwhelmingly by the Austrian people. They so much wanted economic security and socialized health care that they did not notice their religious and other freedoms being slowly eroded. To me, it sounds similar to what is going on in this country.

1938 Austria --Land of "The Sound of Music" Story
I had the opportunity to hear Kitty Werthmann speak at the Eagle Forum
national conference a couple of months back. She told a powerful story
about what it was like growing up under Hitler.
America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World. Don't Let
Freedom Slip Away

By: Kitty Werthmann
What I am about to tell you is something you've probably never heard or
will ever read in history books.

I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler
took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him
by a landslide - 98% of the vote. I've never read that in any American
publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and
took Austria by force.
In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our
workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan
interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young
people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they
didn't want to work; there simply weren't any jobs. My mother was a
Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we
cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry
people - about 30 daily.
The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each
other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna, Linz, and Graz were
destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government
to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.
We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany , where Hitler had
been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn't have
unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing
was ever said about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise. We
were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way
of life in Austria . We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean
the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that
businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.
Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany
and have Hitler for our ruler.
We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had
candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens
and everyone was fed.
After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle,
we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone
was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was
created through the Public Work Service.

Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was
a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home.
An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn't support
his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they
could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for
marriage.
Hitler Targets Education - Eliminates Religious Instruction for
Children:

Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school.
The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our
schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my
schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler's picture hanging next
to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the
class we wouldn't pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang
"Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," and had physical education.

Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance.
Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They
were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of
warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the
equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail. The
first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day
we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much
fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and gleefully
tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me
out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn't do
that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful.
There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun - no sports, and
no political indoctrination. I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it.
Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my
old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing. Their
loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By
that time unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler. It
seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time
went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn't
exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

Equal Rights Hits Home:

In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was
rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same
time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn't work,
you didn't get a ration card, and if you didn't have a card, you starved to
death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn't have any
marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for young
people, male and female
, to give one year to the labor corps. During the
day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their
barracks for military training just like the boys. They were trained to be

anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor
corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines. When I
go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women
are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the
horrors of combat. Three months before I turned 18, I was severely
injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared
having to go into the labor corps and into military service.


Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:

When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government
immediately established child care centers. You could take your children
ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days
a week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole
generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of
the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time,
no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.
Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government
Controls:


Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American
doctors trained at the University of Vienna . After Hitler, health care was
socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government.
The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors
for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40
people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were
full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for
your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into
socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so
the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries
.

As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our
income
. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the
government to establish a household. We had big programs for families.
All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by
the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled
to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law
owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told him
he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump
themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional
bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar.
He couldn't meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If the
government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed,
it could be in control.

We had consumer protection. We were told how to shop and what to
buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning
agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms,
count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to
produce it.


Mercy Killing" Redefined:
In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps . The
villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were
closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people
intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I
was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful
and did good manual work. I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He
was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw
Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where they
were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department
would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were
required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6
months. They were told visits would interfere with the program and
might cause homesickness.

As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died
a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected
what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and
all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

The Final Steps - Gun Laws:

Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler
said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by
matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and
dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long
after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their
guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to
comply voluntarily.

No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the
government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested,
not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

Totalitarianism didn't come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943,
to realize full dictatorship in Austria .
Had it happened overnight, my
countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we
had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles.
The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little
eroded our freedom.

After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria . Women were
raped, preteen to elderly. The press never wrote about this either. When
the Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling
whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole orchards of
fruit, and what they couldn't destroy, they burned. We called it The
Burned Earth. Most of the population barricaded themselves in their
houses. Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as the troops mobilized.
Those who couldn't, paid the price. There is a monument in Vienna
today, dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians.
This is an eye witness account.

--- end of article

When I received the above article, I wondered how authentic it was. It
sounded real but I decided to check by Googling for this woman.

This is an audio video of her talking to Alex Jones in 2007.....
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1758808539498490012#

and this is another article about this topic......

Watchfor the government to take away freedoms now enjoyed using theinternet. Never before in history have the sheeples been able to talkto each other like they do now. The Mega Corporations are truly theones running our respective countries and they do not like us tellingeach other how bad their products are ....like sucralose, for example,and many others. And the #1 guy who would like to shut us all up isBarack Hussein Obama. We are living in perilous times.
Thisspeech/article should be sent to every federal representative in bothcountries. Most representatives do not know this stuff and they are tooclose to all the crud to see what is happening. We need to keep theminformed. If we don't, who will? The news media? The lobbyists?
Let's do it!

Helen
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12/31/2009 2:58:05 AM

Just in.

9/11 was pretext for attacking Afghanistan

Hats off to Tom Beattie (The Times, Dec. 27) for his comments on the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, in which Canada is unfortunately a major player. While I’m at it, hats off to The Times for printing his letter.

I call it an illegal invasion, since the basis used to justify this invasion is connected to the biggest scam of the last century — 9/11. I knew from the time the second WTC tower was hit that it was an inside job. Anyone doing a few minutes worth of investigation will realize that the “official story” presented to the masses simply does not add up. For example, buildings do not collapse on themselves at “free-fall” speed, especially (in Building 7’s case) when they have not been hit with anything.

Immediately after the attacks of 9/11, (with the help of the media — which is controlled by the “elites” ), people were told that this was carried out by Osama bin Laden. The U.S. government then pulled out the NATO card, which stated that “an attack on one nation is an attack on us all.” It then demanded of the Taliban that they hand over bin Laden; to which the Taliban rightly insisted that when NATO provided the proof of his involvement of 9/11, it would then and only then hand him over.

The response to the Taliban’s response was NATO’s illegal invasion and occupation of their country. As most informed people know, proof of bin Laden’s involvement to this day has never been presented.

Bin Laden is not even wanted for 9/11 on the FBI’s website. When the FBI was questioned about this, the response was “there is no evidence of his involvement.”

The power-hungry people who attacked Afghanistan are currently working towards invading Pakistan and Iran. They hope to occupy the territory from the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea to the borders of Russia and China. They have tried to convince us that Muslims are the new threat to us all, but fail to tell us that the U.S. currently possesses two per cent of the world’s oil, while Muslim countries possess more than 65 per cent.

Canada will go down in history as being a major accomplice to the largest war crime ever carried out. Thanks to the people that carried out 9/11, the media, and those who believed the lie, we now all have blood on our hands.

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12/31/2009 5:40:37 AM
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Ohmy Bogdan, I guess you missed the point of the statistics I posted. Theweb site where all this is found is dedicated to terrorist attacksonly. It doesn't mix in military activities whether by the US military,Blackwater, the Iraqi military or any other military organization.Please don't try and make military units out of Radical Islam terroristgroups and organizations. You must stop trying to find excuses fornumbers that can't be refuted. If you can't blame it on the CIA IguessBlackwater will do but it just doesn't work.


I did some research on http://www.thereligionofpeace.com and the men behind it Glen Reinsford. According to some sources his sites where shut down in the past due to hate, he is being called neo-nazi in some places.

In addition the above site is a one man operation which doesn't accept advertising and only donations. The question is who is giving those donations and how one man knows all the cases which are happening in the world. Police and courts spend sometimes years to prove one single case, yet this guy has the through knowledge of cases of jihad throughout the world, the world where communication and transportation still remembers middle ages. This site and stats are a joke.

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Itseems that facts make no impression on you and you'll look for excusesto try and show they aren't infact murders in the name of Radical Islamand others are responsible. But, there is no escaping reality andfacts.


This is what my impression of you is. I just showed you that starting war in Iraq has cost lives of over million civilian people of Iraq. I don't have the numbers from Pakistan and Afghanistan now. This happened from hands of saviors who are supposed to save the world from tyranny and totalitarian leaders. How can you argue that Islam is the bigger threat when I'm showing you a number of deaths which is multiple times larger than what you are calling threat to the world and this number comes from a shady source supported by some people with their own agenda.

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RadicalIslam and their Jihadi terrorist attacks are facts of life. Ignore themif you wish or find excuses for them but more and more people arebecoming aware of the dangers of Radical Islam and their agenda forworld domination.


The radical Islam became visible to the world once Americans started messing with middle east. This is what I have shown you in Ron Paul's statement. He is a politician and member of parliament who thinks exactly like I do about the reasons why terrorists are coming to US and UK. Both those countries are messing with the Middle East and are usurping the right to fix the world. The real reason behind this politics is control of the sources of energy, world colonization and exploitation under the umbrella of giving "because it is better to give than receive as we know it and looks better too."

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I wonder if you bothered to read the charters of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah and all the others.


They had good teachers. I know this part of history quite well.

Although the fact that there are terrorist is not being disputed by me, I dispute the reasons why terrorists are doing this. They are doing this because they are being attacked and occupied.
To stop terrorism those who occupy the lands of Muslims must withdraw and peace will return to large part of our globe. There never will be peace as long as occupiers do what they do today. Poland was over 200 years under occupation of fascist/monarchist nations and was divided into three parts. It came back two times and it never lost its language and its culture. It used the fight against its oppressors and never forgot about its origins.

By today's standards you would call them terrorist.
Kosciusko and Pulaski, two Polish high ranking military men are also American heroes who fought for free America. They were called terrorist by Prussian and Czar occupiers of Poland.

Amen.

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