Ron Paul tells you why there are terrorists. Listen to the end of the clip.

Hi Bogdan,

I watched all 4 videos. The Alex Jones videos are interesting and extremely dramatic as they usually are. One thing though much ofHaskell's testimony I saw on other sites and news services much on the day of the attack. If I'm not mistaken you posted his first interview a few pages ago which more or less covers most of the 3 videos. Note how careful he was not to get involved in conspiracy theories. Alex alluded to private discussions he's not free to disclose but ........ let's wait and see if Haskell reveals anything earth shattering in other interviews.

Now as Imentioned in my last posts. Ron Paul is not one of my heroes and his opinions on the cause of terrorism are actually quite simplistic (my first inclination was to write simple minded but out of respect decided not to). Stein more or less showed the fallacies in what he had to say.

I will say this though. I'm not in favor of finding excuses for terrorism and never was. The US sorta discovered international terrorism after 9/11 even though it was happening all over the world before that but for the first time it hit at home in a very big way and it was a great revelation. I wrote about that either in my forum or in another forum on this topic. Radical Islam and Jihadi terrorism has been an issue for over 50 years so Ron Paul's reasons and reasoning are out of place and not realistic. Ask yourself the question; what came first the chicken or the egg? Well in this case terrorism was a fact of international life before the first Iraqi war (remember the US was asked to intervene and help then)and before Afghanistan. So Ron Paul's simplistic reasoning is just that and Stein's on air rebuttal was in place and correct. I've heard his theories before and never thought much of them then and that hasn't changed in the meantime. He hasn't convinced me yet.

Shalom,

Peter

Hello Bogdan,

Below find a list of Radical Islam terror attacks over the past 2 months. If you want we can go back much farther then that but for the moment 2 months will suffice.

Please note many of the attacks were Muslims against Muslim and of course their attacks against members of other faiths.

Wonder how Ron Paul rationalizes and explains this phenomenon ???

Shalom,

Peter

List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 Months

Hello Jim, Bogdan & Friends,

Theconcept that Radical Islam is in terrorist mode cos of Iraq isfictitious. Here is a list of countries and states where there wereterror attacks by Jihadi terrorists. Find the connection if you can toIraq.

And let's remember that many of the terrorist activityis against other Muslims and members of other religions and faiths. Allthose nasty infidels.

Shalom,

Peter

Hi Peter,

I'm replying to your post in regards to number of deaths caused by Muslims.

1. Majority of the cases are in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

Note that this is where Americans are right now and where the unrest is happening due to their presence there anyway. I was reading articles on Blackwater activities in those countries where Blackwater contractors are also Muslims and take part in actions which are in the end being identified as action cause by Muslims, yet there are part of military actions directed by US, particularly in Pakistan. In any instance giving statistics in countries where there is war is not a good proof for anything but the war itself.

2. Those cases as reported caused by Muslims are happening in Muslims countries. This means that any common criminal case caused in those countries will be caused by Muslims regardless what is its motivation. Keep in mind that there is lots of commons crimes in countries where there are no Muslims.


Look here at several links which report on civilian deaths in Iraq due to American invasion.
It is being estimated that just until 2006 there were over 1 mln Iraqi civilians killed due to Americans.

http://politicalcartel.blogspot.com/2008/03/iraqi-deaths-due-to-us-invasion.html
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/deathcount/explanation
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11674.htm


And here you have statistics caused just in USA year by year due to common crimes.
Please, please don't tell me that crime caused by common criminals is better because it is not due to fundamentalism.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
Just in 2008 there were 16,272 deaths in US due to murder.

Put those number next to each other and tell me how they stuck up.

Bogdan Fiedur