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Thomas Richmond

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Re: Who Are Your Closest Friends?
10/16/2007 4:33:52 PM
Hmmm let me think ah yes, my closest friends. First would be both Kathys _ Kathy Hamilton, Kathy Vanbeekom (cute), Joe Downing (Brother), my whole JD dowline team you know who you are! starting with Jo Matthias, even Brenda Burgess even though things can go wrong and on down the line, Julie Leonard, . Nick Syms,Georgios, Amanda Shaver, Linda Harvey, Sharon (mom) Lee, Carla Cash, Jerilyn M (good freind), Lisa Simpkins! Pauline and Rhina, Rose E, NAN, list goes on but i cant forget Marilyn L, even though we dont talk as much and i cant email her which is great cuz im always afraid of what she might comeback with lol, im glad to see her doing well. William P and Mike B you guy rock thank you for being there for me. Anyone saying well what about me Tom? theres to many of you to mention so sue me lol. But my main best friend would be my rabbi Jesus Christ my Lord and savior.
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Re: Who Are Your Closest Friends?
10/19/2007 4:04:32 AM

Hi Thomas,

This is a very interesting topic and one worth exploring.

In my lifetime I had very few "close" friends but those that I have have lasted through thick and thin. Any one who says that he has many close friends is either fooling himself or doesn't understand the meaning of true friendship.

My wife and I had a couple that were very close friends for many years. I was the godfather of one of their sons and before we had our kids their children were like our own (that didn't change after we had ours but they had "competition). The wife came from a very wealthy family but they didn't approve of the husband so more or less cut them off financially. When their second son was born (my godson) they didn't have enough money for the Brit (circumcision ceremony). My wife and I paid for it all and told them that they could repay us when and if they were able. A funny thing happened after that. We would talk at least 5 times a week on the phone and met at least once a week prior to the Brit but after that they simply disappeared. Completely vanished. We would talk and from time to time on the phone but the conversations would be very short and when we invited them there was always an excuse why they couldn't make it.....This went on for a couple of months and then I told my wife that I'm going to ask that they repay the money they "owed" us and they did, Lo and behold things more or less returned to the way they were previously. So what's the moral of the story do you think, that they were simply embarrassed to meet with us because of their debt?? I don't think so since they were like family to us and we never thought of the debt until they disappeared on us. But unfortunately my wife and I went through a very rough patch around 30 years ago and had to sell our business and our home in order to repay business debts. We were in a very bad financial situation and believe it or not that is when they really disappeared. Never heard from them for over 2 years until I was back on my feet and in a very good financial situation once again. All of a sudden they wanted to be friends again and you can imagine my reply. I wanted nothing to do with them.

The nice part of this is that during that bad patch I discovered who my real friends were and are till this day. Two couples that proved what real friendship really is. Not financially but just by being there for us, with a good word and moral support. One of them is more like a brother then a friend and as you can see these friendships are over 30 years old. I went to South Africa for 10 years for business reasons and they visited often and we talked constantly on the phone and when I returned to Israel we continued our relationships as if we were never away.

It is very hard to measure online friendships. I believe I have some very good friends here at adland but these are "virtual" friendships that aren't measured in the same way as friends in the real world. I've seen supposed friends go off on others in such an ugly manner that even in the real world you don't see. I've seen members who profess unconditional "love" for their fellow man in one forum forget that love  in a millisecond in another forum and turn into lions foraging on their prey. 

My conclusion is that one is truly lucky and blessed if he can claim to have a few real friends and when you have them nurture them and remain as true to them as they are to you.

Sorry for being so long winded but this is a topic that I've given a lot of thought to over the years and could probably go on and on but I have no desire to bore you all more then I already have.

All the best & Shalom,

Peter 

 

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Thomas Richmond

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Re: Who Are Your Closest Friends?
10/19/2007 10:29:55 AM
Peter my Jewish brother, manytimes have i had close calls in having to lose friendships outside of my computer as well as inside and often the inside doesnt hurt as much as the outside does becaus we can see , touch and feel that person, in here all we do is see and have somewhat of a mutual feeling. If you need a friend brother as i am with my Rabbi Jesus i am here for you and for anyone who is willing to be mine (Unconditional), its a word God uses and should hold up with one who loves his fellow man. I grew up with celibritys and musicians, good friends at the time but now they dont know me at all. We dont pick and choose all we can do is hope for the best and pray that the future in loving people as they are will overcome those little things that have no consern in what your trying to accomplish. True friendship deals with the heart and not someones bank account, i am sorry you had to go through that and i commend you on helping with the brisk, thats alot of money to say the least, something so big like that one cant take ones word for it and should have it down in writing for things such as them leaving without a trace, friend or foe doesnt matter what matters is the heart of the issues your trying to convey and not just the words. I live by the words, well i try since im only human of my Rabbi but that was His feeling for us is to live for matters of the heart.  You Peter are a good man of virtue , sounds funny but true as i can sense it in your wording and no you dont bore me, non-sense. What is non-sense is people not living like they should and not having the consideration for others here and outside of this virtual world.  Isaiah 53 is a good passage for the human heart. Thank you my brother. Shalom.
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Re: Who Are Your Closest Friends?
10/19/2007 11:04:37 AM
Good Morning Thomas:

I just dropped in to see how your forum is doing and I have noted that although we all come from different walks of life...different experiences, we all share a very common bond....without our true friends we would live a sadder dull life.  So here is just a little something to all those who are the closest to us...have an awesome weekend


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9l8K7xOYM

When I cry, you are there to help me out
When I am happy, you are there to hear me shout
When I grin you know that I am really mad
You can always tell when I am sad
You are the best friend I have ever had!

You are there with me through thick and thin
You offer a helping hand when I am dim
You patiently listen when I want to talk
You tell me I am good even when I have been bad
You are the best friend I have ever had!

So hear me out when I say
You are the light in my day
You are the moon in my night
That made my life so bright
With you I am always glad
You are the best friend I have ever had!

Peace and Light to all my close and dearest friends friends...thank-you

Diane

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Re: Who Are Your Closest Friends?
10/19/2007 11:09:42 AM
Hi Diane my Canadian she wolf hehe. Thank you for your friendship and the thought! cool song. Thanks my friend. Enjoy your weekend!
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