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Re: The Mythology Behind Global Warming
5/14/2007 12:39:31 PM
Hi Rod,

It's great to see your smiling face here!  I hope readers quickly figure out that you're one to pay attention to!  Welcome to the boards.

Al Gore should stick to wringing his hands - something he is very good at - and stay out of things he has no understanding of at all.

It's interesting that you mention trees - Canada has been shown by REAL science to be what is known as a Carbon Sink, meaning more carbon compounds like CO and CO2 are absorbed than produced.

This is because there are many healthy YOUNG forests in this country that absorb these compounds at a very high rate.  In other words, logging can be very healthy for the environment if logged areas are replanted.  The young, vigorous growth is very healthy for the planet and far superior to older growth in the amounts of carbon compounds that they absorb.

God bless,

Dave

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Re: The Mythology Behind Global Warming
5/14/2007 12:40:17 PM
Hi Kathy,

Thank you for the link.  The music is most pleasant.

God bless,

Dave
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Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
5/14/2007 12:42:21 PM

Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide

Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

Monday, February 5, 2007

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the only one trying to make people open up their eyes and see the truth. But few listen, despite the fact that I was one of the first Canadian Ph.Ds. in Climatology and I have an extensive background in climatology, especially the reconstruction of past climates and the impact of climate change on human history and the human condition. Few listen, even though I have a Ph.D, (Doctor of Science) from the University of London, England and was a climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. For some reason (actually for many), the World is not listening. Here is why.

What would happen if tomorrow we were told that, after all, the Earth is flat? It would probably be the most important piece of news in the media and would generate a lot of debate. So why is it that when scientists who have studied the Global Warming phenomenon for years say that humans are not the cause nobody listens? Why does no one acknowledge that the Emperor has no clothes on?

Believe it or not, Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide (CO2). This in fact is the greatest deception in the history of science. We are wasting time, energy and trillions of dollars while creating unnecessary fear and consternation over an issue with no scientific justification. For example, Environment Canada brags about spending $3.7 billion in the last five years dealing with climate change almost all on propaganda trying to defend an indefensible scientific position while at the same time closing weather stations and failing to meet legislated pollution targets.

No sensible person seeks conflict, especially with governments, but if we don't pursue the truth, we are lost as individuals and as a society. That is why I insist on saying that there is no evidence that we are, or could ever cause global climate change. And, recently, Yuri A. Izrael, Vice President of the United Nations sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) confirmed this statement. So how has the world come to believe that something is wrong?

Maybe for the same reason we believed, 30 years ago, that global cooling was the biggest threat: a matter of faith. "It is a cold fact: the Global Cooling presents humankind with the most important social, political, and adaptive challenge we have had to deal with for ten thousand years. Your stake in the decisions we make concerning it is of ultimate importance; the survival of ourselves, our children, our species," wrote Lowell Ponte in 1976.

I was as opposed to the threats of impending doom global cooling engendered as I am to the threats made about Global Warming. Let me stress I am not denying the phenomenon has occurred. The world has warmed since 1680, the nadir of a cool period called the Little Ice Age (LIA) that has generally continued to the present. These climate changes are well within natural variability and explained quite easily by changes in the sun. But there is nothing unusual going on.

Since I obtained my doctorate in climatology from the University of London, Queen Mary College, England my career has spanned two climate cycles. Temperatures declined from 1940 to 1980 and in the early 1970's global cooling became the consensus. This proves that consensus is not a scientific fact. By the 1990's temperatures appeared to have reversed and Global Warming became the consensus. It appears I'll witness another cycle before retiring, as the major mechanisms and the global temperature trends now indicate a cooling.

No doubt passive acceptance yields less stress, fewer personal attacks and makes career progress easier. What I have experienced in my personal life during the last years makes me understand why most people choose not to speak out; job security and fear of reprisals. Even in University, where free speech and challenge to prevailing wisdoms are supposedly encouraged, academics remain silent.

I once received a three page letter that my lawyer defined as libellous, from an academic colleague, saying I had no right to say what I was saying, especially in public lectures. Sadly, my experience is that universities are the most dogmatic and oppressive places in our society. This becomes progressively worse as they receive more and more funding from governments that demand a particular viewpoint.

In another instance, I was accused by Canadian environmentalist David Suzuki of being paid by oil companies. That is a lie. Apparently he thinks if the fossil fuel companies pay you have an agenda. So if Greenpeace, Sierra Club or governments pay there is no agenda and only truth and enlightenment?

Personal attacks are difficult and shouldn't occur in a debate in a civilized society. I can only consider them from what they imply. They usually indicate a person or group is losing the debate. In this case, they also indicate how political the entire Global Warming debate has become. Both underline the lack of or even contradictory nature of the evidence.

I am not alone in this journey against the prevalent myth. Several well-known names have also raised their voices. Michael Crichton, the scientist, writer and filmmaker is one of them. In his latest book, "State of Fear" he takes time to explain, often in surprising detail, the flawed science behind Global Warming and other imagined environmental crises.

Another cry in the wildenerness is Richard Lindzen's. He is an atmospheric physicist and a professor of meteorology at MIT, renowned for his research in dynamic meteorology - especially atmospheric waves. He is also a member of the National Academy of Sciences and has held positions at the University of Chicago, Harvard University and MIT. Linzen frequently speaks out against the notion that significant Global Warming is caused by humans. Yet nobody seems to listen.

I think it may be because most people don't understand the scientific method which Thomas Kuhn so skilfully and briefly set out in his book "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions." A scientist makes certain assumptions and then produces a theory which is only as valid as the assumptions. The theory of Global Warming assumes that CO2 is an atmospheric greenhouse gas and as it increases temperatures rise. It was then theorized that since humans were producing more CO2 than before, the temperature would inevitably rise. The theory was accepted before testing had started, and effectively became a law.

As Lindzen said many years ago: "the consensus was reached before the research had even begun." Now, any scientist who dares to question the prevailing wisdom is marginalized and called a sceptic, when in fact they are simply being good scientists. This has reached frightening levels with these scientists now being called climate change denier with all the holocaust connotations of that word. The normal scientific method is effectively being thwarted.

Meanwhile, politicians are being listened to, even though most of them have no knowledge or understanding of science, especially the science of climate and climate change. Hence, they are in no position to question a policy on climate change when it threatens the entire planet. Moreover, using fear and creating hysteria makes it very difficult to make calm rational decisions about issues needing attention.

Until you have challenged the prevailing wisdom you have no idea how nasty people can be. Until you have re-examined any issue in an attempt to find out all the information, you cannot know how much misinformation exists in the supposed age of information.

I was greatly influenced several years ago by Aaron Wildavsky's book "Yes, but is it true?" The author taught political science at a New York University and realized how science was being influenced by and apparently misused by politics. He gave his graduate students an assignment to pursue the science behind a policy generated by a highly publicised environmental concern. To his and their surprise they found there was little scientific evidence, consensus and justification for the policy. You only realize the extent to which Wildavsky's findings occur when you ask the question he posed. Wildavsky's students did it in the safety of academia and with the excuse that it was an assignment. I have learned it is a difficult question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the most important question to ask if we are to advance in the right direction.


Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project, is a Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. He can be reached at letters@canadafreepress.com


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Re: The Mythology Behind Global Warming
9/24/2007 4:26:43 AM
I totally agree with your Neil.
Some Islands in the pacific ocean have gone underwater due to rising sea levels.
There are at this time people being moved of Islands in Vanuatu.
We have floods causing masive damage in parts of the world and in other places we have people walking off the land who have been farming for generations as there is no water to irrigate with and the great murray river in South Australia has stopped flowing for the first time in history.
There is not rain where it is needed. There is far to much prove now that global warming is a fact of life and it is going to cost up a lot more money for our food and water. Sea water is now being converted into fresh water in western australia which comes at a cost. It takes 3 litres of sea water to make 1 litre of drinkable water.
Live stock in the lower murray river are dying from drinking the river water.
This is no joke. We have been warned this would happen years ago and people just said, those who did the warnings were crackpots and no scientific proof.
Scientists in general now agree that we have a problem and much of the problem, has been caused by us Humans. The latest reports that I have recieved have said we have left it too long to stop further global warming issues.
They maybe right and they maybe wrong. Only time will tell.
It is not scaremonger but plain out facts. We all have a problem for our future.
Keith.

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Re: The Mythology Behind Global Warming
9/24/2007 4:54:47 AM

I didn't realise that this topic was still active.

The islands in the Pacific, some being only a few feet above sea level, are very good indicatiors of sea level changes. Over the last 45 years there has been no significant change in the level of the Pacific.

I have been in contact with the Government and friends in Vanuatu and all confirm that sea levels are not an issue.

Droughts in Australia are nothing to do with global warming, they are similar to the droughts currently in Europe, caused by bad water management and the destruction of natural ecosystems.

In many areas, farmers are leaving their land. Sometimes because bad husbandry has destroyed the top soil and others because there isn't enough money for the small farmer to survive on.

Just on a point of simple physics.

If the sea level was rising there would be a larger surface area of water.

If there is a larger surface area of water, there would be a greater volume of vapour rising into the atmosphere.

If the volume of vapour in the atmosphere is greater, the amount of precipitation should also be greater.

It isn't.

I don't suppose anybody has actually compared the apparent diminishion of water volume to the increased volume of water stored in the bodies of the world population?

It is interesting that, of late, there has been much made of the decrease in sea  ice possibly opening up the North West Passage and yet nothing is said of the enormous increases in sea ice in other areas.

The Old Coot

 

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