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"Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think."
"How relevantis the factthat Disraeliwas an atheist"
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I NEVER said it was relative to the quote you posted.
I said I was EDUCATING people to the fact he was an Atheist. A FACT which most people do not know.
DID YOU KNOW HE WAS AN ATHEIST BEFORE I POSTED HE WAS?
And one to the reasons most people do not know of the MANY very famous and very successful people who were, or are Atheists is because religious reporters and historians do not tell the truth.
Notice the subtle discrimination in the way you and others spell "atheist"?
While you capitalize the names of all the religions, the words Atheist and Agnostic are only capitalize by me and a few others.
THIS WILL CHANGE!
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"what was the reason that you have posted about 6 other quotes stating that believing in god is pointless."
While I ALREADY ANSWERED THAT when I posted them, here is the answer
again.
It was because two Christians had included quotes from the Bible in their responses.
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"Nor the quote of the day suggested any relation to religion nor to atheists."
I NEVER SAID IT DID!
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"I think that being an atheistto you is more important than being itself since you bringing it upon every occasion."
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Well Bogdan, it seems you need to take a course in either reading comprehension OR how to improve your memory as I DO NOT Bring It Up on EVERY occasion.
Which you can PROVE to yourself by going back over ALL of your Quotes I have responded to.
(And if you went over
ALL the other posts
I have responded to, you will see I have responded to many things in which I NEVER mentioned ANYTHING about religion.)
So Bogdan, YOU ARE VERY WRONG when you say I bring religion up on EVERY Occasion.
In fact, IF you do sufficient research, you most probably will find I bring up in less than 25% of my responses,
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"When other people make references to god or religion they are not arguing with other members."
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I NEVER said they were "arguing with other members"
Still, they are PUSHING their religion on others.
There is NO valid reason for them to be constantly quoting the Bible or talking about their god OTHER than to indicate how great they think their religion is.
Note: MANY Adland people NEVER bring up religion when they post.
They do not bring up their religion because they either are not so programmed they believe they are compelled to do so
OR
they have the common sense to NOT include religion where it should not be in the first place.
IF others did NOT bring it up FIRST, the odds I would bring it are nearly ZERO.
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"They assume that saying words like "Bless you"is a whish which can't heart anyone including atheist or members of other religions. It is as good as saying "All the best to you."
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Then they should SAY: "All the best to you"
OR as I do: "Please, Take Care!"
I say that as while people can not control
IF they have a nice day or not, they CAN take care to protect them- selves from whatever.
Are you telling me saying "Bless You" is more important than reminding people they should, "Take Care"?
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"Your comments usually are argumentative'
F.Y.I. An argumentative person is one who argues JUST for the sake of argument. I can NEVER ever remember my doing that in my entire life.
I very seldom argue over a disagreemt on a MERE "opinion" as there is no reason to do so. Rather I argure with those who are wrong on THE FACTS!
And when I disagree with some thing, it is because my education and my varied life's experiences indicate to me what they said is wrong.
I do NOT ask others to be wrong nor do I make them BE wrong, I just point out when they are.
And IF I do not point out they are incorrect not only do they continue to be wrong, all others who read what they have said MAY believe what they said is correct.
I have Hoax after Hoax sent to me simply because those who send them are "too busy" or "too lazy" or "too clueless" to take the time to verify IF they are true or not.
So I take the time to inform those who sent it to me they forwarded me a hoax and would they please inform all those they forwarded it to as well as whomever sent it to them, IT IS a Hoax.
I LOVE when someone can PROVE I am wrong. If I am wrong and someone does NOT prove to me I am, I will just continue being wrong on that subject. And being wrong is not acceptable to me.
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"99% of the time are attempting to show that all religions are bad and being an atheist is a good thing."
SORRY, I have NEVER said ALL religions are bad and I would not as I do not know a sufficient amount about ALL, or even most religions.
And being an Atheist IS better than believing in things which break the laws of nature (Nothing can be "super-natural")
physics & common sense.
Better than believing
in things which are illogical, irrational and non-provable.
Being an Atheist is better as we are not hypocrites saying we have some system of laws we follow and then do not follow them.
Being an Atheist means you do not have some religious brain washing messing up your mind so much you refuse to accept proven scientific FACTS!
A. Like Evolution is both a PROVEN theory and a PROVEN Fact.
B. It IS a proven FACT Homosexuals are BORN that way.
D. It is a PROVEN FACT countries which have mandatory comprehensive sex education classes have LOWER sex crime rates, lower STD rates and LOWER rates of un-married teen age mothers.
WHO DENIES THESE FACTS?
Programmed Religious Robots do!
Being an Atheist is better because I do not know of ONE case where one Atheist has ever even beaten up another Atheist much less KILLED them (like religious people do by the MANY THOUSANDS) due to a disagreement about Atheism.
And Atheists MUST be smarter, harder working, braver and better than religious people are as WE DO NOT NEED ANY GODS HELP to succeed in life or to fight disease or to accomplish what ever.
It seems religious people DO need their gods help to do those things.
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"As for me I don't really care if you are an atheist, Christian or Moslem."
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(Notice how the capitalization Christian and Moslem DIS-RESPECTS us by NOT capitalizing Atheist? Like we are not as good a religious people.)
Well Bogdan, while it is nice YOU do not care, it is too bad so many, to most, Christians do not feel the same way you do.
IF they did, then MOST American and Canadian Atheists would NOT be AFRAID to publicly state they are Atheists as they ARE NOW!.
And there would NOT still be Witch Trials going on in the U.S.
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"What I care is what kind of person you are and how your being around enriches others.'
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I will compare my "Good to the World" to others and beat the heck out of MOST of them.
Let's see, I put in over ten years (active duty and active reserves) in the military protecting the freedoms of Americans.
As a lifeguard, I saved more than a few lives. I've either broken up, or helped break up many fights.
I have put my physical well being and my life on the line for Black civil rights and in the protection of others.
I serve on juries and vote in elections. I volunteer my time in attempting to get certain candidates elected. I have worked to free people who have been wrongly convicted and jailed.
Unlike most people, I ALWAYS run toward any problems to see if I can be of any help.
It makes no difference if what I am running toward could get me badly hurt or killed or not. (The last time was last week when I ran to help people on a boat which was just beached.)
I've given over FIVE gallons of blood & would have given more only my having cancer stopped me from giving for years.
I have volunteered to be (and was) a member of a real possie and to fight dangerous fires in which I had no stake.
(Meaning no home or property to protect.)
I have have been the chairman of United Way drives in a large corporation and help raise many thousands of dollars. I have given money to charities and hundreds of dollars worth of Noni Juice to those who could not pay for it.
(Since I was/am living on social security, it was something I should not have been doing.)
I go out of my way to help others when I can.
The bottom line? The world is better off because I am in it.
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"I don't believe belonging to certain religion makes people worse or being an atheist makes them better."
You are right.
The simple membership in a religion does not make a person good or bad and Atheists can certainly be bad as Stalin and some others have more than proved.
Yet, following the teaching of a religion DOES make otherwise good
people bad!
And it happens ALL of the Time!
Do you think Moslem Children would be willing to go out and blow themselves and others up if they were not indoctrinated into the Moslem religion?
Do you think Eric Robert Rudolph would have blown up Abortion Clinics, Gay Bars and the Olympics in Atlanta, Ga. killing all kinds of people he did not know had he not been indoctrinated in the Christian religion?
Have you EVER known of a Buddhist who committed a terrorist act?
It does NOT happen as the Buddhist religion does not teach the KILLING of others.
Do you have a CLUE how many times the Bible instructs it's believers TO KILL?
(28 times I know of)
A "GOOD" Christians is supposed to KILL ME for what I have written here.
And I am supposed to respect a religion which tells it's believers to KILL ME?
GIVE ME A BREAK!
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"Most people didn't chose their religion, they grew up with that
religion."
You are EXACTLY RIGHT!
They were PROGRAMMED into the religion of those who brought them up and THEN they go through life not only BELIEVING their religion is THE ONLY RIGHT ONE, they are WILLING TO DIE AND TO KILL for it!
And MOST of them do so without ever seriously questioning the validity of their belief.
The difference between believers and many,
to MOST Atheists in the US & Canada, are the WE DID QUESTION and that is how we became Atheists.
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"If being religious is pointless/wrong how come that over 80%
ofglobal population believes in some type of god."
YOU HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION!
(And I am surprised you do not know you have!)
YOU SAID: "Most people didn't chose their religion, they grew up with that religion."
THAT is WHY most people ARE religious!
THEY HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED TO BE RELIGIOUS!
"Are they all stupid?"
NO, JUST PROGRAMMED!
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"You believe that all killings and bad things are doneby religious people."
THAT IS NOT TRUE!
WHY ARE YOU LYING ABOUT ME?
I'VE NEVER SAID NOR HAVE I EVER INFERRED IT.
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"The simple reason is that 80% of global population are people belonging to some religion and statistically there will be more bad things done bylarger group by the same token there will be more good things
done."
SOUNDS GOOD!
ONLY IT IS FALSE!
Let's look at the U.S. where we Atheists
make up, (depending on whose figures you are using) between 5 to 10% of the population. This means, according to you, at least 5% of those in jail should be Atheists.
Well guess what, when they kept figures of the religion of the jail inmates LESS than .05% of them did not believe in god.
Which means 99.5% DID believe in god!
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"In addition being religious person doesn't mean you never do anything wrong. It only means that you know you have broken some of the rules of your religion and it is up to you to find way to reconcile it."
Well, their knowing they did something wrong, sure does not seem to stop them from doing more wrong things!
The FACTS are religious people are NOT more honest, truthful, hard working, Kinder, more successful, braver, more caring OR have ANY OTHER positive trait more than Atheists!
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"Even current events have nothing to do with the religion."
CURRENT EVENTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION?
THAT IS A TOTALLY ILLOGICAL, IRRATIONAL, UNINFORMED, AND ASININE
STATEMENT!
WHAT PLANET TO YOU LIVE ON?
THAT STATEMENT SHOWS YOU HAVE LITTLE, TO NO CLUE AS TO WHAT IS, AND HAS BEEN, GOING ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR OVER 40 YEARS!
YOU REALLY NEED TO LEARN THE FACTS!
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"Religionswere only usedto unitecertain groupsagainst common
enemy and to strengthen their souls."
COME ON, the groups they were uniting were, and ARE, RELIGIOUS groups!
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"I believe one has to travel a lot to be able to grasp this concept. I lived in three different countries and visited close to 30 others."
Big deal, I have lived in three countries and visited 9 others
"I have spent months in India, Pakistan, Morocco and have been as far as Mongolia and traveled along entire former Soviet Union."
SO? Is this conversation about travel?
"I've met people from different religions andbackgrounds."
SO? Many have including me.
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