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11/20/2012 12:11:29 AM

Hello Everyone

I put this in Peter's "Human Shields" forum but I thought it should be here too, since I am "Sounding Off", sort of.

When you read this article, keep in mind that the Palestinian civilians are being forced to be human shields while the Hamas leaders and fighters are hiding in underground bunkers. Some fighters, huh? They are nothing but sickening yellow-bellied cowards.

Notice that Israel does all it can to avoid hitting children and civilians but when some of the human shields become casualties, the Palestinians take pictures of the dead children to get the sympathy of the international media even if they have been killed by their own fire.

I have seen other stories of where the Palestinian Hamas deliberately shoot or bomb their own children so they can take pictures for the media and try to make it look like Israel did it. In one case they killed over 100 of their own children. I hesitate to tell these stories because people think I have it in for Muslims and the Palestinians and they may even think that I am making up far-fetched stories ...but I assure you I would not do such a thing. Until I read it, such a thing happening didn't even occur to me.

I also read of an incident in Afghanistan where Muslim children were deliberately killed by Al Queda or the Taliban in order to make it look like the American soldiers did it.

If you want to know what really is going on in Gaza, read this article real carefully.

If you want to spread the truth, please pass this on to others. Far too many Palestinian sympathizers don't know what is going on over there.

Remember to pray for ALL the people over there, Israelis AND Palestinians. It would be better for Palestinian civilians and of course, the Israelis, if the Palestinians did not have weapons. Let's pray that Israel is able to get rid of all the Palestinian weapons without there being casualties. God is able.

Helen

Hamas Sacrifices Civilians as a Military Tactic

Monday 19, 2012 12:43 PM
By Alan Dershowitz

As rockets continue to fall in Israel and Gaza, it is important to understand Hamas’s tactic and how the international community and the media are

encouraging it.

Hamas’s tactic is as simple as it is criminal and brutal. Its leaders know that by repeatedly firing rockets at Israeli civilian areas, they will give Israel no choice but to respond. Israel’s response will target the rockets and those sending them. In order to maximize their own civilian casualties, and thereby earn the sympathy of the international community and media, Hamas leaders deliberately fire their rockets from densely populated civilian areas. The Hamas fighters hide in underground bunkers but Hamas refuses to provide any shelter for its own civilians, who they use as “human shields.”

This unlawful tactic presents Israel with a tragic choice: simply allow Hamas rockets to continue to target Israeli cities and towns; or respond to the rockets, with inevitable civilian casualties among the Palestinian “human shields.”

Every democracy would choose the latter option if presented with a similar choice. Although Israel goes to great efforts to reduce civilian casualties, the Hamas tactic is designed to maximize them. The international community and the media must understand this and begin to blame Hamas, rather than Israel, for the Palestinian civilians who are killed by Israeli rockets but whose deaths are clearly part of the Hamas tactic.


Every reasonable commentator has agreed with President Obama that Hamas started this battle by firing thousands of rockets at Israeli civilians. Every reasonable commentator also agrees with President Obama that Israel has the right to defend its citizens. But many commentators fault Israel for causing Palestinian civilian casualties. But what is Israel’s option, other than to simply allow rockets to be aimed at its own women and children?

As President Obama observed when he went to Sderot as a candidate:

“The first job of any nation state is to protect its citizens. And so I can assure you that if…somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I’m going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing.”

Israel should continue to make every effort to reduce civilian casualties, both because that is the humane thing to do and because it serves their interests. But so long as Hamas continues to fire rockets from densely populated civilian areas, rather than from the many open areas outside of Gaza City, this cynical tactic—which constitutes a double war crime—will guarantee that some Palestinian women and children will be killed. And the Hamas leadership prepares for this gruesome certainty by arranging for the dead babies to be paraded in front of the international media. In one such case, the Palestinian radicals posted a video of a dead baby who turned out to have been killed in Syria by the Assad government, and in another case, they displayed the body of a baby who had been killed by a Hamas rocket that misfired, falsely claiming that it had been the victim of an Israeli rocket.

As Richard Kemp, the former commander of British forces in Afghanistan has said, the Israeli Army does “more to safeguard civilians than any army in the history of warfare.” This includes dropping leaflets, making phone calls and providing other warnings to civilian residents of Gaza City. But Hamas refuses to provide shelter for its civilians, deliberately exposing them to the risks associated with warfare, while it shelters its own fighters in underground bunkers.

The Hamas tactic is also designed to prevent Israel from making peace with the Palestinian Authority. Even Israeli doves are concerned that if Israel ends its occupation of the West Bank, Hamas may take over that territory, as it took over Gaza shortly after Israel ended its occupation of that area. The West Bank is much closer to Israel’s major population centers than Gaza. If Hamas were to fire rockets from the West Bank at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, Israel would then have to respond militarily, as it has in Gaza. Once again, civilians would be killed, thus provoking international outcry against Israel.

What we are seeing in Gaza today is a replay of what happened in 2008 and 2009, when Israel went into Gaza to stop the rocket fire. The result was the Goldstone Report, which put the blame squarely on Israel. This benighted report — condemned by most thoughtful people, and eventually even critiqued by Goldstone himself — has encouraged Hamas to go back to the tactic that resulted in international condemnation of Israel. This tactic will persist as long as the international community and the media persist in blaming Israel for civilian deaths caused by a deliberate Hamas tactic.

© 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hamas-human-shields-israel/2012/11/19/id/464723?s=al&promo_code=10D10-1#ixzz2Ci5RWgVr

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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
11/20/2012 4:23:51 AM

Thanks Helen, as usual the lame stream media is reporting false information as they do most times when reporting on this situation. I've given up on them ever reporting the truth. Thank heavens we have other news sources.

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Hello Everyone

I put this in Peter's "Human Shields" forum but I thought it should be here too, since I am "Sounding Off", sort of.

When you read this article, keep in mind that the Palestinian civilians are being forced to be human shields while the Hamas leaders and fighters are hiding in underground bunkers. Some fighters, huh? They are nothing but sickening yellow-bellied cowards.

Notice that Israel does all it can to avoid hitting children and civilians but when some of the human shields become casualties, the Palestinians take pictures of the dead children to get the sympathy of the international media even if they have been killed by their own fire.

I have seen other stories of where the Palestinian Hamas deliberately shoot or bomb their own children so they can take pictures for the media and try to make it look like Israel did it. In one case they killed over 100 of their own children. I hesitate to tell these stories because people think I have it in for Muslims and the Palestinians and they may even think that I am making up far-fetched stories ...but I assure you I would not do such a thing. Until I read it, such a thing happening didn't even occur to me.

I also read of an incident in Afghanistan where Muslim children were deliberately killed by Al Queda or the Taliban in order to make it look like the American soldiers did it.

If you want to know what really is going on in Gaza, read this article real carefully.

If you want to spread the truth, please pass this on to others. Far too many Palestinian sympathizers don't know what is going on over there.

Remember to pray for ALL the people over there, Israelis AND Palestinians. It would be better for Palestinian civilians and of course, the Israelis, if the Palestinians did not have weapons. Let's pray that Israel is able to get rid of all the Palestinian weapons without there being casualties. God is able.

Helen

Hamas Sacrifices Civilians as a Military Tactic

Monday 19, 2012 12:43 PM
By Alan Dershowitz

As rockets continue to fall in Israel and Gaza, it is important to understand Hamas’s tactic and how the international community and the media are

encouraging it.

Hamas’s tactic is as simple as it is criminal and brutal. Its leaders know that by repeatedly firing rockets at Israeli civilian areas, they will give Israel no choice but to respond. Israel’s response will target the rockets and those sending them. In order to maximize their own civilian casualties, and thereby earn the sympathy of the international community and media, Hamas leaders deliberately fire their rockets from densely populated civilian areas. The Hamas fighters hide in underground bunkers but Hamas refuses to provide any shelter for its own civilians, who they use as “human shields.”

This unlawful tactic presents Israel with a tragic choice: simply allow Hamas rockets to continue to target Israeli cities and towns; or respond to the rockets, with inevitable civilian casualties among the Palestinian “human shields.”

Every democracy would choose the latter option if presented with a similar choice. Although Israel goes to great efforts to reduce civilian casualties, the Hamas tactic is designed to maximize them. The international community and the media must understand this and begin to blame Hamas, rather than Israel, for the Palestinian civilians who are killed by Israeli rockets but whose deaths are clearly part of the Hamas tactic.


Every reasonable commentator has agreed with President Obama that Hamas started this battle by firing thousands of rockets at Israeli civilians. Every reasonable commentator also agrees with President Obama that Israel has the right to defend its citizens. But many commentators fault Israel for causing Palestinian civilian casualties. But what is Israel’s option, other than to simply allow rockets to be aimed at its own women and children?

As President Obama observed when he went to Sderot as a candidate:

“The first job of any nation state is to protect its citizens. And so I can assure you that if…somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I’m going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing.”

Israel should continue to make every effort to reduce civilian casualties, both because that is the humane thing to do and because it serves their interests. But so long as Hamas continues to fire rockets from densely populated civilian areas, rather than from the many open areas outside of Gaza City, this cynical tactic—which constitutes a double war crime—will guarantee that some Palestinian women and children will be killed. And the Hamas leadership prepares for this gruesome certainty by arranging for the dead babies to be paraded in front of the international media. In one such case, the Palestinian radicals posted a video of a dead baby who turned out to have been killed in Syria by the Assad government, and in another case, they displayed the body of a baby who had been killed by a Hamas rocket that misfired, falsely claiming that it had been the victim of an Israeli rocket.

As Richard Kemp, the former commander of British forces in Afghanistan has said, the Israeli Army does “more to safeguard civilians than any army in the history of warfare.” This includes dropping leaflets, making phone calls and providing other warnings to civilian residents of Gaza City. But Hamas refuses to provide shelter for its civilians, deliberately exposing them to the risks associated with warfare, while it shelters its own fighters in underground bunkers.

The Hamas tactic is also designed to prevent Israel from making peace with the Palestinian Authority. Even Israeli doves are concerned that if Israel ends its occupation of the West Bank, Hamas may take over that territory, as it took over Gaza shortly after Israel ended its occupation of that area. The West Bank is much closer to Israel’s major population centers than Gaza. If Hamas were to fire rockets from the West Bank at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, Israel would then have to respond militarily, as it has in Gaza. Once again, civilians would be killed, thus provoking international outcry against Israel.

What we are seeing in Gaza today is a replay of what happened in 2008 and 2009, when Israel went into Gaza to stop the rocket fire. The result was the Goldstone Report, which put the blame squarely on Israel. This benighted report — condemned by most thoughtful people, and eventually even critiqued by Goldstone himself — has encouraged Hamas to go back to the tactic that resulted in international condemnation of Israel. This tactic will persist as long as the international community and the media persist in blaming Israel for civilian deaths caused by a deliberate Hamas tactic.

© 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hamas-human-shields-israel/2012/11/19/id/464723?s=al&promo_code=10D10-1#ixzz2Ci5RWgVr

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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
11/21/2012 2:30:39 AM
If America is the "Great Melting Pot, " then apparently she as a country is about to melt, she slowly bleeding to death. She was founded on Godly principles, but slowly and surely Satan is infiltrating every inch of her being. Most people don't even recognize the USA any longer. The rest of the world is laughing at her, not with us. That's the problem, most people don't recognize, they don't see it, they don't believe it, they're in denial, they are asleep, they are gullible, they believe everything they see and hear on TV and the Internet, they are foolish & too trusting!

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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
11/21/2012 11:18:00 AM

Hi Stephen, what a pleasant surprise to see your smiling face here in my forum. I could not agree more with your comments and yes Satan is infiltrating this country more everyday and in my opinion it began when prayer was taken out of schools. It's a sad situation when so many now think as wrong being right and right being wrong. Another thing is there are way too many who refuse to educate themselves on the issues and just mindlessly vote and have no idea why they vote the way they do. That was made very evident in the last presidential election, and when you ask people why they voted the way they did, they come up with some senseless answer.

Wishing you and yours a Happy Thanksgiving and do come back and visit again soon. :)

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If America is the "Great Melting Pot, " then apparently she as a country is about to melt, she slowly bleeding to death. She was founded on Godly principles, but slowly and surely Satan is infiltrating every inch of her being. Most people don't even recognize the USA any longer. The rest of the world is laughing at her, not with us. That's the problem, most people don't recognize, they don't see it, they don't believe it, they're in denial, they are asleep, they are gullible, they believe everything they see and hear on TV and the Internet, they are foolish & too trusting!


Thx & don't forget to vote for the Person of the Week. Steve Runningman Martinezshopper

http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2580482/Vote-for-the-348TH-POTW-Award-Winner-Your-Vote-Appreciated.aspx?flag=23145200
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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
11/21/2012 4:57:48 PM
Hi Steve,

I saw your post last night but thought Mary Evelyn would like to reply first here in her forum!

The internet...in my opinion...even though I've used it daily for 15 years and will continue to use it...is truly the "golden calf" idol as mentioned in the Bible, people worship the internet as if it's their god, and don't have time for the true God, and forget the true God, or don't want to learn about the true God.

Being Christians, we're obligated to use the largest platform possible to share His word, and the internet IS the largest platform.

GOD gave the skills and intelligence to people, to the people who created the internet, to the people who install phone lines, to the people who learn to type, to the people who learned to read. All our abilities were given to us by the one true God.

The internet is a tool we use, it's not a god itself, it's a communication device.

We need to communicate the truth of God, and not allow non-believers to overwhelm and overtake the internet with their messages of nonbelief.

We also need to question all messengers, too many people are just repeating what their friends write, or what's repeated most often, or "Liked" most often.

Too often, like/dislike is a stronger influence than the truth, especially online, where tons of people are constantly in cliques or trying to be liked, so they just agree with those they like or the people they want to like them.

Truth isn't about like/dislike. Christianity and belief in the true God isn't about like/dislike. God doesn't try to curry favor with those who don't believe or don't like His word.

The book of Ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under the sun, all that's been done has been done before, and all that's been said has been said before. Sometimes online, we see people immediately copying someone else's words, and saying it's their own, even in Adlandpro forums within minutes right before our eyes, right after we've typed something, another person swoops in, retypes it and says it's their new idea. Is it or isn't it? Do words/ideas belong to people or is it just part of all that's been said before?

Question everyone, even ministers if they are saying things that don't sound quite right.

Scripture is the truth, everything is given by the one true God, and should be used to glorify the one true God, not to be used to compile groups to worship anything that didn't give us life and Spirit. The word of God is sharper than a double-edged sword and can cut between soul & Spirit. Our soul is within us, and so is the Holy Spirit, guiding our thoughts/prayers.

For those who don't pray, it will comfort you, and lead you to take better actions, God gives us shelter, we just need to look for it and go to it.


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If America is the "Great Melting Pot, " then apparently she as a country is about to melt, she slowly bleeding to death. She was founded on Godly principles, but slowly and surely Satan is infiltrating every inch of her being. Most people don't even recognize the USA any longer. The rest of the world is laughing at her, not with us. That's the problem, most people don't recognize, they don't see it, they don't believe it, they're in denial, they are asleep, they are gullible, they believe everything they see and hear on TV and the Internet, they are foolish & too trusting!

Thx & don't forget to vote for the Person of the Week. Steve Runningman Martinezshopper

http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2580482/Vote-for-the-348TH-POTW-Award-Winner-Your-Vote-Appreciated.aspx?flag=23145200
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