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RE: IS THERE SUCH A THING AS A COSMIC RELIGION?
11/17/2010 4:23:13 PM
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“The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend a personal God and avoid dogmas and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity… ”

Albert Einstein

I don't know whether I should try to define religion. It's so obvious that any attempt at defining
it would somehow limit it. So I prefer to talk about religion. Note that I am not saying "religions." There are so many...

Many people say religion has proven useless and that there would be no place for it in the coming New Age. Others think its role has been nefarious all along history. They forget its influence everywhere on this planet in the cohesion of societies. I doubt any of them had formed were it not for it. There would only be barbarians. At any rate, I cannot imagine what the world would be if religion had not be there keeping alive the torch of science first, and then educating the people in the spiritual matters.


Granted, religions (not religion) have many times behaved very poorly, particularly in those periods of decadence that all societies must undergo in the course of time - or rather in the course of their particular ages, for there have been as many cycles of ages as societies have existed in the course of history.

But religion is a divine force behind all religious phenomena; it nurtures all true religiosity. It is independent of men. Whatever they may do in the matter of religions, whatever their religious concoctions are, and whatever processes of decay religions may undergo, religion remains uncontaminated - simply because it is the pristine creation of God.

To see what true religion is, we have to look into the most remote past. The more we go back in time, the better we will do in finding it. In fact, we need to look back to the beginning of the human phenomenon on our planet, when man lived in perfect peace and harmony with God and the superior principles, to find it. If that is too difficult for us, we may study the very first known societies on earth and try to understand how they did to live like that, for they all had religion as their real father and mother. If we are to enter in a New Age, we had better begin with this. But I will talk about all this in successive posts.

Thank you,

Luis Miguel Goitizolo





Dear Luis,
Thanks for informing me about this forum. Very very interesting and enlightening subject for all of us. I love the following quote from the above;

“The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend a personal God and avoid dogmas and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity… ”

Albert Einstein

Our ancients though in different regions, followed only one God/Brahman worship since many aeons of time.
But, unless we are all disciplened in the use of our BODY, MIND AND INTELLECT, to know about God, Atma, Soul, Paramatma become difficult those/these days. Hence, many religions, humans have followed with different type of worshipping according to their own tastes, knowledge, Gnana obtained from messengers of God, Saints, Sages, Prophets etc.,

Before any religion was named only "SANATHANA DHARMA," THE COSMIC WORSHIP WAS IN EXISTENCE EVERYWHERE.

WE ALL WERE, BOUND BY ONLY ONE - LAW OF GOD/LORD/UNIVERSE!!!

THERE IS NO PERSONAL GOD - THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD WHICH EVERYONE, EITHER KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY PRAY FOR THEIR WELFARE, WEALTH, PROSPERITY, LOVE, AFFECTION, PEACE AND LIBERATION/MUKTHI!!!

LOVE IS GOD - GOD IS LOVE - LOVE ALL AND SERVE ALL - AND NOW LOVE IS OUR RELIGION, IF YOU MAY SO CALL LOVE AS!!!

Love and regards
Rajaram S.K.
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RE: IS THERE SUCH A THING AS A COSMIC RELIGION?
11/18/2010 2:00:59 PM
DEAR EMBODIMENTS OF LOVE,

WHY SO MANY RELIGIONS, GODS, AVATARS ETC.,....


It would appear as if you get more inspiration from one Avatar than another. But all are equally Divine and enigmatic. Every manifestation is suited to the time, the task, the circumstance and the need. Its form is in accordance with the purpose.

- Bhagavatha Vahini, Chap 32, "Puranas and Incarnations".



Sai Inspires - November 18, 2010

Why are there so many forms of God? Which is the best? Swami lovingly explains the answer in simple terms to us today.

Have you read the twenty-ninth episode of
"Loving Legend - Living Legacies"?

Every concrete manifestation of God is significant. There can be no higher or lower. The story of each one of them is elevating. Each is a complete manifestation. Listening to their stories may make you feel that one incarnation is grander and more sublime than another. It would appear as if you get more inspiration from one Avatar than another. But all are equally Divine and enigmatic. Every manifestation is suited to the time, the task, the circumstance and the need. Its form is in accordance with the purpose.

- Bhagavatha Vahini, Chap 32, "Puranas and Incarnations".

All are One, be alike to everyone. - Baba


http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/1170628/THEPOWEROFMYLOVEBhagawanSriSathyaSaiBabaofPuttabarthiAndhraPradeshIndiasaid/137.aspx

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RE: IS THERE SUCH A THING AS A COSMIC RELIGION?
11/26/2010 2:53:19 AM
Dear Rajaram,

Your recent contributions to this forum are highly appreciated and will be treasured forever. You are right about Sanatana Dharma being the only religious form that can nowadays still be called a "cosmic religion" proper. Furthermore, I consider Hindu religiosity to be, in its many manifestations, one of the most beautiful expressions of that Eternal Religion in both its personalist and impersonalist branches. Any issue on whether a personal God is or is not going to be needed by the religion of the future should start by defining what we understand by a personal God. Among the Hindus, I understand, the personalists believe that God incarnates in the material world while the impersonalists do not believe in Incarnations but only in the impersonal Brahman, so it all depends on the point of view that one adopts. In my opinion, the impersonalists may be right in their only wanting to worship the Supreme Brahman but they miss the nectar that a devotee relishes in from his love for one of the Lord’s incarnations.

If I remember well, however, it was rather with a view to highlighting the role of temples and sacred mountains in India in the worship of the Deity that I wrote the post that attracted you to this forum in the first place. To be frank, I had in mind to draw your attention toward the fact that the tens of thousands of pilgrims that worship Lord Shiva by circumambulating the nearby hill barefoot may be symbolizing the cosmos revolving around the eternally immovable world axis, in turn represented by the hill; and that on its part that hill may be a representation of Mount Sumeru, the primordial Mountain, which is said to rise from the center of the world and reach Brahma’s Paradise.

So let me please transcribe some paragraphs of that post here:

”We should always remember that in terms of the sacred science, the central axis around which the cosmos revolves expresses the interlinkage among all cosmic levels.

Moreover, sacred places constitute world centers (omphalos) with the altar as the axis, also formed by the columns of smoke, prayer, and sacred songs ascending to heaven. Every temple and, by extension, every sacred city or royal residence is a Sacred Mountain, thus becoming a cosmic center (Wikipedia). But on these sacred spots "where the four cardinal directions meet" not only can communication from lower dimensions ascend to higher ones, but also the blessings from higher dimensions may descend to lower ones and be spread to all mankind.

And here comes the most wonderful part: these blessings include the avatara or divine incarnations who are supposed to descend to this Earth on the world axis at the turn of an age…”

(By the way, the black hole that is described by modern astronomers as a "voracious baby" in the center of the galaxy very probably is,
on a galactic level, just the world axis' visible 'shadow' in its traversing it. I am including a photo of the "black hole" below.)

Here are a few more paragraphs that may be particularly interesting to you:

"On the other hand, while the cosmic center can by extension be wonderfully represented by the general layout of a Hindu temple as a material counterpart to the tower (of a more elevated nature if you like), if there additionally is a Shiva lingam in the temple, then the center will usually be represented by the
yoni or special sacred place where it is contained.

Of course, this sacred central place can also be represented by the city where the Shiva lingam is located and worshiped, or ultimately by the Earth at large if the Linga is a natural one.
In this way, the two of them, axis and center together, become the locale of supreme peace which can also be found within us, in our spine cord, and in the chakra or 'worlds' which pulsate along it.

Yin
and yang, spirit and matter, male and female, Heaven and Earth as our father and mother, they all become complementary at that place of supreme reality where all oppositions dissolve.

This is the teaching that together with other cosmic-related knowledge, such as astronomy and sacred dances, was imparted by the priestly castes in the temples of emerging civilizations. A teaching that in more recent times would be incorporated into the Hindu temples, where it has remained over the centuries to be seen by those who know.

I would like to finish this with a beautiful quote found at
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingam):


“The endless sky (the universe) is Linga, and the Earh is its base.
At the end of time, the universe and all Gods merge in Linga.”


Thank you,

Luis Miguel Goitizolo


"Scientists stumble across a first-of-its-kind view
of the birth of a voracious baby black hole"
(photo Yahoo News published Nov 15)



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RE: IS THERE SUCH A THING AS A COSMIC RELIGION?
11/27/2010 10:17:43 PM
the Hunab-Ku would be interesting to note whence in cchildrens drawings they are expressed.Studies done note circle,rays,wholistic portrayals of the state of consciousness awareness. I for one have expressed this feeling center in my art.Art sees more for is it the nature of the brain lobes that determine activation. Wrongfully dismissed as ADD inventionby those that have not understanding.I think the blood has a cosmic significance, sign-if-i-can along the dottedline, as a greater reality implants into the minds of a people at varying stages of any culture.Flowering, the jey stream flow changes receive influx coded changes a people need to assimilate as to get real information via the highercrown chakra, the ratio being said to be 7:1, so indeed by that it can be said that all that we see as physical with our watery orbs, IS only the tip of the iceberg.

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RE: IS THERE SUCH A THING AS A COSMIC RELIGION?
11/29/2010 3:41:42 AM
Hello Gregg,

The ancients did know all about that which we are just beginning to re-discover. Nothing can be more helpful to understand the underlying reality of the material universe than symbols and they, the ancients, knew it.

In this regard, all the stupid philosophy of our time cannot possibly compare with symbolism, where as far as understanding God, the universe and our selves is concerned, the simple circle-and-dot symbol is worth a million pages of abstruse writing. In fact, the more you study it, the more you grab the significance of the Principle and how everything else depends on it to exist.

There are other symbols derived from the circle or the square than can make you reach higher states of being or get into deeper degrees of reality. Sometimes merely watching a symbol can make you perceive other dimensions and enter blissful states of being within yourself.

What you say about the kids drawing circles and rays is most interesting, as is what you say about the Hunab-ku. No wonder those kids can get into those states, their minds have not yet become tainted by material nature.

About blood having a cosmic significance: whole treatises could be written about it, but it may be enough to say that as you breath in prana-loaded air, God's spirit, coming in on the rays of the cosmic wheel, is circulated by blood throughout the body and the brain, thereby activating the crown chakra and inducing a higher perception of reality both inside and outside.

In this regard, a beautiful tradition from esoteric Christian circles has it that Jesus' flaming heart radiates life and love, and his own Spirit, from the center of the universe out to the entire cosmos and into the last atom; and that this is reproduced inside our bodies with our own hearts radiating life, love and God's spirit also to the last atom in them (provided that we are not yet too contaminated by the material world, in whose case I don't think those life, love and God's spirit can be too saintly).

However, in order to more than merely exist, in order to experience those really higher states and know those deeper degrees of reality, we need to consciously let Him in the first place by means of some preparatory action, like meditation, mudras, symbols, sacred music or even a little conscious breathing. It is like radio sub-stations, they will not broadcast the main station signal unless they are properly tuned in with that main station.

Of course, little children do not need to make any preparatory work, they already have the 'Kingdom of Heaven' in them. There are quotes in the Gospels and many other sacred texts, for example the Tao-te-ching of Lao-tzu, where all this is hinted at.

Blessings,

Miguel

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