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Sunny Greetings from California to Jim, Peter, and Friends:

Wishing you all a Healthy, Happy, and Prosperous New Year!

I have felt compelled to drop in on this special thread to share some of my thoughts on several issues pertaining to the ongoing debate here, yet this is the first window of opportunity that allows me to do so.

Jim, I, as an ardent patriotic American and a Tea Party Patriot, appreciate this thread very much as you and Peter take the trouble to use logic and facts to bring more awareness about the grave danger of the radical Islamic movement in the United States and in many parts of the world. I also admire and appreciate both you and Peter for pointing out to the readers of this thread what America stands for and what America does not and will not stand for.

When people say they do not hate Americans but they hate America, they overlook one significant reality that is a distinguishing feature of the United States of America as much as, if not more than, it is of any other country in the world: America IS its people, because here more than anywhere else on earth -- from the day of our Founding (at least up until Obama, Pelosi, and Reid came to power one year ago) -- we have had government of, by, and for the people. American exceptionalism is our national pride.

It is hard for me -- no, it is impossible for me -- to believe any foreigners who say that they do not hate Americans, but who openly advocate or support or justify jihad against Americans in the United States and abroad. Such a statement is a blatant contradiction and is, therefore, A BIG FAT FLAGRANT LIE! You cannot hate my country without hating me and my people.

It is also a lie to claim that America's foreign policy is anti-Muslim. Every war in which the United States has been involved since the end of the Cold War has been in defense of Muslims, fighting against foreign invaders or brutal oppressors who were slaughtering Muslims by the millions. The fact that many of those invaders or oppressors were themselves Muslims does not justify the claim that America was targeting Muslims as its enemy. As always throughout our history America's foreign wars of the last two decades have been wars of liberation and not of conquest -- although some people are too blinded by hate to tell the difference --and in every case the liberated people have been of the Muslim faith.

A fact often ignored is that the Iraq war actually saved Muslim lives. No one in history has been responsible for the murder of more Muslims than Saddam Hussein. The invasion by the United States and its coalition partners brought an end to that. Even during the Iraq war, the number of Muslims killed was far fewer than the number that had been slaughtered by Saddam Hussein. Moreover, most of the Muslims who died during the Iraq war were killed not by U.S. troops but by Muslim terrorists. The practice of Muslims killing other Muslims in Iraq has now been reduced to a miniscule fraction of what it once was, thanks to American intervention.

These are the facts, and they are irrefutable. Any attempt to refute them is putrid hot air. But then, anyone who asserts that 9/11 was an "inside job" either has a total disregard for the truth or has completely lost touch with reality. Or both.

Another reason I appreciate this thread is because it has induced certain people who are at their core haters of America and Americans to disclose their true colors. There is now no question about who and what they are. Never again will their pretenses to the contrary have any credibility!!!!!!!!!!

Many thanks for allowing me to give express my anger regarding the outrageous accusations some have made on your thread against my country.

Jim and Peter, I am proud to be your friend and proud to have you both as my friends!

Peter, thank you for your service in the U.S. Air Force. I always express my deepest gratitude to servicemen and women, and veterans, whenever I can.

All the Best to You and Yours in 2010!

JoAnne Green
Tea Party Patriot

Dear JoAnne,

Thanks for joining.

When you are referring to other people, you must be referring to me as I'm the only other person in this thread who is not Jim or Peter. I'm sure you are realizing that I'm the owner of this site and just out of respect you could offer calling me by name as opposed to seeing me as some other people.

I feel great distaste in your tone to what I have been saying here in your response.
I'm also noticing some twisting of my words from my previous conversations.

If you notice it is not me who says that I hate Americans, but Jim said that and I'm just responding to his words. In fact I'm saying that I have distaste to US government which is not exactly hating it. I'm more than 18 years of age and I have practical approach to life with ability to control my feelings in public conversations.

In addition I'm supporting my opinion with various sources, and I quite often see myself saying what Ron Paul the congressman is saying himself, who is an American and definitely a patriot. Review previous posts and videos for that reference.

As I can't call myself an American patriot because I'm not there, I believe that my discussion here is helping Americans to understand how America is being seen from outside.

In my opinion this can only help America not the otherwise.

If you disagree with any of my points, you are welcome to prove it with factual information.

Although I respect your opinion, I won't be responding to anything but facts if you provide it here.
Several of your statements here are just generalization and very inaccurate attempts to present the facts. Use references and other sources to support what you have to say.

Respectfully

Bogdan Fiedur

I love it when sources change horses.

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Radical Islam and America's Future

January 1, 9:28 PMDC Independent ExaminerJames Simpson

Political Islam, i.e. radical Islam, is actually a cutout for continued communist aggession against the West. This is perhaps the most justifiable explanation for the resurgence of radical Islam in recent years, though it receives scant recognition.

We knew this to be true back in the 1970s and 1980s, when the communist-inspired PLO began its operations against Israel. We knew that Hezbollah and the other Muslim terrorist organizations got their training, weapons and support from Syria - a Ba'athist (Stalinist Arab Communist Party) country. We knew by extension that Syria, like all Soviet client states, was acting on behalf of the Soviet Union.

But after the Soviet Union "fell" in the 1990s, suddenly we were confronted with "Muslim" terrorism. Still the same actors, still the same support networks, still the same tactics, yet now it was supposedly a dire new threat. And if you think horrific public killings and suicide bombings – even using children – are an Islamic invention, ask anyone who served in Vietnam. Communist tactics, all. Even before the communists, Japanese frequently used this tactic in WW II. A very good article on Alternet.org, The Hard Truth About Suicide Bombers had this to say:

Martyr missions made their official twentieth-century debut in the Second World War with the Kamikazes; they showed up again in the 1960s, when Viet Cong sympathizers exploded themselves amidst U.S. troops. Their debut in the Islamic world was not until the 1980s, during the Iran-Iraq war.

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Now they want to legislate who can use the word ALLAH, what a ridiculous thought!

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KualaLumpur, Jan. 3 (ANI): The Malaysian Government has urged Muslims acrossthe country to remain calm, and respect the High Court's verdict toallow Catholic weekly 'Herald' to use the word "Allah".

Ministerin the Prime Minister's Department, Jamil Khir Baharom, said that thegroups should be patient and allow the matter to be resolved throughthe legal process.

"I will meet the NGOs soon to hear their viewsand to discuss the matter further with them," The Star Online quotedBaharom, as saying.

On Thursday, Judge Lau Bee Lian had ruledthat use of "Allah" was constitutional as long as the periodical wasconfined to educate the followers of the Christian faith.

However, former Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad didn't agree with the High Court's decision.

"Thisis because 'God' in other religions is translated as "Tuhan" in BahasaMelayu or Arabic, not 'Allah'. Allah specifically refers to God inIslam. If they understand that, they would use the word 'Tuhan', not'Allah'," he told reporters after presenting a keynote address at theMalay Undergraduates Convention at Universiti Malaysia Terengganu.

Dr Mahathir added that he term "Allah" might be used in such a way that could inflame the anger of Muslims.

"They may use it on banners or write something that might not reflect Islam," he said.

Meanwhile,in George Town, the police said it would station personnel outside theHigh Court building, following a planned demonstration by a Muslimnon-governmental organisation. (ANI)

http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20100103/364/twl-malaysian-govt-urges-muslims-to-rema.html

I wonder how similar legislation for the word "GOD" would go over? Just goes to show you how confused these folks really are. IMHO

Sunday, November 29, 2009