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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/2/2010 10:50:48 AM
Hi Jim & Bogdan,

I think most of us are aware that during wars there are those that"support" both sides for monetary gain. This has been going on throughout history. The same was true with American companies and there were also those that supported the Nazi cause for reasons we all know about. Greed and the willingness to do anything to make a profit is something most of us deplore and despise and will continue to do so.

Here is a prime example of Radical Islam at its best. You insulted Mohammadand Islam you DIE. Fortunately this time their plan failed.

Shalom,

Peter



Police shoot man attacking Muhammad cartoonist


AP – FILE- In this Oct. 27, 2009 file
photo, Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard,
sits in the offices of Danish …

COPENHAGEN– Police shot a Somali man wielding an ax and a knife as he tried tobreak into the home of an artist whose cartoon of the Prophet Muhammadwith a bomb-shaped turban outraged the Muslim world, the head of Denmark's intelligence agency said Saturday.

Jakob Scharf said in a statement that a 28-year-old man with ties to al-Qaidaattempted to enter Kurt Westergaard's home in Aarhus Friday night. ButWestergaard pressed an alarm and police arrived minutes later.

Theattack on the artist, whose rendering was among 12 that led to thetorching of Danish diplomatic offices in predominantly Muslim countriesin 2006, was "terror related," Scharf said. He said the man would becharged with attempted murder.

Westergaard,whose 5-year-old granddaughter was in the home on a sleepover, soughtshelter in a specially made safe room when the suspect broke a windowof the home, said Preben Nielsen of the Aarhus police.

Officers arrived two minutes later and tried to arrest the assailant, who wielded an ax at a police officer.The officer then shot the man in a knee and a hand, authorities said.Nielsen said the suspect was hospitalized but his life was not indanger.

The suspect's name was not released in line with Danish privacy rules.

"The arrested man has, according to PET's information, close relations to the Somali terrorist group al-Shabab and al-Qaida leaders in eastern Africa," Scharf said. PET is Denmark's intelligence agency.

Scharfsaid without elaborating that the man is suspected of having beeninvolved in terror-related activities in east Africa. He had been underPET's surveillance but not in connection with Westergaard, he said

The man, who had a permit to stay in Denmark, was to be charged Saturday with attempted murder for trying to kill Westergaard and the police officer, Scharf said.

Thesuspect got inside the home of the 75-year-old cartoonist in Denmark'ssecond largest city, 125 miles (200 kilometers) northwest of Copenhagen.

Westergaard could not be reached for comment. However, he told his employer, the Jyllands-Postendaily, that the assailant shouted "revenge" and "blood" as he tried toenter the bathroom where Westergaard and the child had sought shelter.

"Mygrandchild did fine," Westergaard said, according to the newspaper'sWeb edition. "It was scary. It was close. Really close. But we did it."

Westergaard was "quite shocked" but was not injured, Nielsen said.

An umbrella organization for moderate Muslims in Denmark condemned the attack.

"TheDanish Muslim Union strongly distances itself from the attack and anykind of extremism that leads to such acts," the group said in astatement.

Westergaard remains a potentialtarget for extremists nearly five years after he drew a caricature ofthe Prophet Muhammad wearing a bomb-shaped turban. The drawing wasprinted along with 11 others in Jyllands-Posten in 2005.

Thedrawings triggered an uproar a few months later when Danish and otherWestern embassies in several Muslim countries were torched by angryprotesters who felt the cartoons had profoundly insulted Islam.

Islamic law generally opposes any depiction of the prophet, even favorable, for fear it could lead to idolatry.

Westergaard has received death threats and is the subject of an alleged assassination plot.

The case "again confirms the terror threat that is directed at Denmark and against the cartoonist Kurt Westergaard in particular," Scharf said.

In October, terror charges were brought against two Chicago men whoseinitial plan called for attacks on Jyllands-Posten's offices. The planwas later changed to just killing the paper's former cultural editorand Westergaard.

In 2008, Danish police arrested two Tunisian men suspected ofplotting to murder Westergaard. Neither suspect was prosecuted. One ofthem was deported and the other was released Monday after animmigration board rejected PET's efforts to expel him from Denmark.

Throughout the crisis, then-Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussendistanced himself from the cartoons but resisted calls to apologize forthem, citing freedom of speech and saying his government could not beheld responsible for the actions of Denmark's press.

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/2/2010 2:18:59 PM
Bogdan,

These were investors, I bet nearly every investor in the modern world has profited from the spoils of war. Now you are really stretching for cause here. All this is known. Nor denied, any longer so what's your point?


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Early American connections and financial support for Hitler and Nazis.

Here I have found an article which shows early times of Hitler and support for him.
Look at the paragraph below and see how close similar organizations are behind todays financing of the war and behind financial crises. Things don't seem to be much different, aren't they? If you ask me how this is related to radical Muslims, ask yourself who supported largest conflicts on this planet in the past and who is financing today's conflicts.

Some names which come to light are Federal Reserver and Paul Warburg who was associated with Farben Industries and was first president of Federal Reserve, General Electric and what comes with it JP Morgan.
I'm sure you know that GE is a big supplier for American war machine.

The largest contributor to the fund was I.G. Farben, which como mitted itself for 80 percent (or 500,000 marks) of the total. Director A. Steinke, of BUBIAG (Braunkohlen-u. Brikett-Industrie A.G.), an I.G. Farben subsidiary, personally contributed another 200,000 marks. In brief, 45 percent of the funds for the 1933 election came from I.G. Farben. If we look at the directors of American I.G. Farben — the U.S. subsidiary of I.G. Farben — we get close to the roots of Wall Street involvement with Hitler. The board of American I.G. Farben at this time contained some of the most prestigious names among American industrialists: Edsel B. Ford of the Ford Motor Company, C.E. Mitchell of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and Walter Teagle, director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the Standard Oil Company of New Jersey, and President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Georgia Warm Springs Foundation.

Paul M. Warburg, first director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and chairman of the Bank of Manhattan, was a Farben director and in Germany his brother Max Warburg was also a director of I.G, Farben. H. A. Metz of I.G. Farben was also a director of the Warburg's Bank of Manhattan. Finally, Carl Bosch of American I.G. Farben was also a director of Ford Motor Company A-G in Germany.

FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO HITLER:
Feb. 23-Mar. 13, 1933:
(The Hjalmar Schacht account at Delbruck, Schickler Bank)
Political Contributions by Firms (with selected affiliated directors) Amount
Pledged
Percent of
Firm Total
Verein fuer die Bergbaulichen Interessen (Kitdorf)$600,000 45.8
I.G. Farbenindustrie (Edsel Ford, C.E. Mitchell, Walter Teagle, Paul Warburg)400,00030.5
Automobile Exhibition, Berlin (Reichsverbund der Automobilindustrie S.V.)100,0007.6
A.E.G., German General Electric (Gerard Swope, Owen Young, C.H. Minor, Arthur Baldwin)60,0004.6
Demag50,0003.8
Osram G.m.b.H. (Owen Young)40,0003.0
Telefunken Gesellsehaft ruer
drahtlose Telegraphic
85,0002.7
Accumulatoren-Fabrik A.G.
(Quandt of A.E.G.)
25,0001.9

_____________

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Total from industry

1,310,000

99.9

Bogdan Fiedur

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/2/2010 4:10:17 PM
Hello Friends,

Here are a few very interesting videos about Islam and the sources for Radical Islam in the Koran. Robert Spencer a world renown Islamicscholar is speaking before the Heritage Foundation. Well worth listening to if you want to hear some basics about what the Muslims call the "religion of peace".

I posted these videos last year in another thread but they are definitely well worth watching if you didn't see them then.

Shalom,

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/2/2010 4:31:07 PM
Hi Bogdan,

I want to take advantage of our discussion here to raise a few issues I'm having with the new format.

In the past I told you that some friends are experiencing problems posting in ALP now. Unfortunately that hasn't improved and just yesterday I heard from another friend that has the same problem.

To go one step further I had to stop using IE in ALP for a variety of reasons from speed to not being able to post. So I started using FF and it was fine until last week when once again I couldn't post with that browser. The create and cancel buttons didn't show up on the bottom of the page so I am now using Google Chrome and so far no problems.

The editor with all the different browsers jumble up the words if the post is created out side of the editor and then pasted in. I see many have this problem cos of the words not being spaced properly. After each post I have to go in and edit the post in order to correct this.

I would dearly like to see the post notifications with the topic of the post in the subject line. This would improve the traffic to the thread and make life much easier by seeing the duplications in the email notices.
With the present format of notifications clicking on all the notices is very time consuming while with the old format you saw in advance the many duplications.

In the old format when you replied to a post the subject line remained the same as the post you're replying to while in the new format it reverts back to the original subject line in the first post of the thread.

Jim mentioned the search option in the different forums and threads. You gave us the link to a search tool for forums but that doesn't allow us to search for specific posts within the threads. That was a very important tool and I'd like to see it reinstated.

Thanks and Shalom,

Peter

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/2/2010 5:07:39 PM
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These were investors, I bet nearly everyinvestor in the modern world has profited from the spoils of war. Nowyou are really stretching for cause here. All this is known. Nordenied, any longer so what's your point?


The same investors are standing behind Soviet Revolution and behind any military conflict in Europe's modern history since Napoleon defeat. Federal Reserve and Financial system of UK are behind First and Second World war. If those two events are for you just investment schemes, than it is O.K with me. America is not ran by Congress and/or White House but by Federal Reserve CIA and criminals from Pentagon.

Your two presidents Lincoln and Kennedy where assassinated when they tried to defeat the financial status quo being controlled by international banking cartels, namely Federal Reserve and Bank of America during Lincoln times.

Your constitutional government is allowed to make decisions in the areas which are unimportant to the world, otherwise money cartels are making decisions.

You can see who brought Hitler to power and this should be enough for you to understand that only those become presidents and public figures who receive financial support of financial elites. Obama's presidential campaign raised nearly on billion dollars.

All the war America fights right now and fought in the past are to fulfill goals as you call them "investors". They push your goverment to fight the wars and coloniolize the world where energy resources are available

They always create false enemies to create propaganda and to justify taking away liberties and getting public support. Body screening devices radiating passengers already announced to be introduced in UK and USA after Christmas Eve failed bombing attack.

After Soviet Union fell apart, American neocons created new enemy Islam.
They are only making Islam stronger as you see by radicalizing young Muslims in America, UK and in other parts of Europe.

They will never defeat Islam in fact they want Muslims to strike back as this will give them more arguments to Police the US and whole developed world and continue the wars. If Muslims are not doing anything, CIA and Blackwater will create condition for it to happen.

This is a precursor to entire world domination. Financial cartels "Your investors" use America to take over control of the entire world.

As George Orwell writes in "1984", perpetual war is the key to massive control of population.

By creating elite of people who supports the system and control the truth, fake wars are being fought to keep everybody in check.

I hope that you start looking from larger prospective, forget about left and right and start seeing who is pulling the strings and are not accepting direction of propaganda which is meant to distract you and make you help those in power, either by not questioning them or by supporting them morally. Both Obama and Bush are closely tight with money cartels, they work for them not for you. Tony Blair become a consultant to JP Morgan soon after he stopped being British Prime Minister. He was their consultant=traitor all the time, now he can accept their money legally.

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