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7/18/2011 12:08:58 AM
They're Coming! Have you been watching the skies for them?

Falling Skies - First Trailer

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RE: God? Gallactics? Or Man? What ARE your thoughts?
7/18/2011 12:12:49 AM
Or it could be

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RE: God? Gallactics? Or Man? What ARE your thoughts?
7/18/2011 2:32:12 AM
Hello Ladies and gentlemen,

I've been following this discussion and have felt the need to comment on recent posts in it. I've seen comments in regards to multidimensional worlds and labeling people for their beliefs or understanding . One of the labels was to be a scammer if someone believes in the ideas which are not proven scientifically or not believed by some members of this discussion group.

Here are couple of questions for you who believe that you have all the answers and those who don't subscribe to those ideas must be scammers.

Just few decades ago nobody knew about so called microwaves used in the microwave ovens today.
Were those who have attempted to speculate that such weaves exits, scammers?
What about Tesla and Marconi who were speculating for a long time about radio weaves before they have been practically measured and used for technologies?

Galileo and Copernicus 500 years ago have shown that earth is not center of the universe.
At that time there were groups, who would say that these two guys were scammers, although at that time they were called rather something else.

Even now there is a concept called "Elegant Universe" the branch of quantum mechanics which is today main stream science, which proves that there are 11 dimensions needed to describe physics of our universe. Can you perceive 11 dimensions? I don't believe so, yet that part of science proves mathematically and in the labs that if you create 11 dimensional model, you can describe physical world and you receive what was expected in tests, even if 70% of action is happening in the domain you have no way to measure or control.
Although I don't claim to be an expert in that domain I have two science degrees.

Guess what. Those physicist were called hoaxsters only 20 years ago and have been ridiculed by other physicist . Now even Hawkins who has been one of the biggest skeptics of this model has accepted it.

What about religions? I don't even want to go there. Are you also going to label those people?

Do you think you have all the answers and you can call other people stupid, scammers, suckers because they have courage to stand for what they believe?

Unfortunately people who have been ahead of the times, had to always be ridiculed and belittled, by small minds and people with the agenda and ignorant. Only thanks to courageous ones, we have some kind of progress in this world and life is worth living.

I challenge you to find out about so called torsion weaves (still disputed by main stream science), about the DNA phantom effect so you can have the feeling what science is about today.


The older we grow the greater becomes our wonder at how much ignorance one can contain without bursting one's clothes.
- Mark Twain's Speeches, 1910 ed.

His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere.
- Mark Twain in Eruption

The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about

Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.

Benjamin Franklin

He must be very ignorant for he answers every question he is asked
Voltaire

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RE: God? Gallactics? Or Man? What ARE your thoughts?
7/19/2011 8:52:19 PM
Hello Bogdan,

I want to compliment you on your salutation of "ladies and gentlemen". Is Arthur's joining the conversation here the cause of that or are there hidden reasons for it?

I enjoyed reading your scientific review but I don't see what it has to do with the discussion in this thread. If you're trying to insinuate that what's being discussed on the mountain is science then you have quite a task ahead of you proving that. I'd qualify it as science fiction no more no less. On a personal level I've been following the thread almost from the start and asked questions many a time that were never answered so I simply stopped posting there. Others asked questions that weren't answered and were banned for asking. That seems to be the norm here when there are no answers at hand.

I'm not going to list all the inconsistencies, dead people that talk to them from Hitler to Malcolm X, Lady Di to JFK, Elvis to Jesus and the list goes on and on. I won't go into the 10's of thousands (black hats) that were killed and who are still around but as "clones". Like Hillary, Bush and other real "nasty" people. I won't even mention all the dates for decloaking (the last one I read about was 6/21/2011) or the demise of the FED (still alive and kicking) or the "fact" that NESARA is here and the banks will close (bankers holiday) and then your $10,000,000 will be deposited. Nor will I mention that B Hussein and Kuccinich are from the planet Sirian (sp ?). I won't even mention the time when a few saw the decloaking of some space ships but had no pictures to back it up. Nor will I mention that Mark Huber one of the "gurus" of the galactic round table was hospitalized by his children for being delusional and incompetent and his cohorts aren't allowed to contact him ever again (how could the benevolent galactics allow that to happen or how could that happen to a person who was an ascended super master?). The list goes on and on and I won't even bother mentioning other fables.

But what I will mention is that over the years when I read posts and followed the links I always hit sales in one form or another. You'd imagine that these benevolent galactics would give their services free of charge and those channeling wouldn't consider charging for anything. I have no problem with anyones beliefs and if they feel comfortable with it fine and dandy. But when you have people charging innocents for supposed galactic services and taking advantage of their innocence and naivety then you have to start thinking scam or you tell me what to call it.

The below website is a prime example. Here's this oh so important dude "Lord Ashtar" advising people for either an hour or an hour and half for $100 or $140. Now the owner of the site "claims" that she's only available to schedule these sessions 3 times a week and if you believe that then you better pawn your 2 scientific degrees. Is this dude's time so cheap on the one hand as important as he is or is it what you can "consider" to be a scam? Oh yeah, these channeling sessions are over the phone and or skype so these gullible customers can't even see what's happening on the other side. Now if you believe as I do that she has many sessions per day and multiply that by 7 and then by 365 she's got quite a good business going for her and not a bad income. You also have to register and pay for many of these mass channeling sessions so you can say they have quite a lucrative business. There are hundreds if not more similar sites. Scam or not? You decide for yourself and we who think otherwise can have our opinions too.

Thanks for the links Bogdan I'll definitely read them since I enjoy learning new things and am an avid reader. That said your usage of science as an explanation for the discussion on the mountain is really out of place since there's is no science there unless it's science fiction or a new rendition of Aesop's Fables.

Shalom,

Peter

P.S. Ignorance is bliss Bogdan and there are many here and elsewhere who haven't done their homework and are accepting things blindly and are in a
constant state of bliss. Every announcement and channeling that are repeats of other channeling sessions from years past (some word for word) creates bliss in their minds and their lives. They wait for announcements that never happen even though it's supposed to happen any day and any time. Decloaking dates that pass and no questions are asked and their eyes remain glued to the skies. I'd recommend you post your quotes there and elsewhere it seems as it's really needed. Use your discernment. Yet if they feel good believing pipe dreams and science fiction fables I personally have no problem with that but as the old saying goes .........."follow the money".



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Your session will be conducted by phone, and Susan will record it and mail you the tape, which will take at least one week to receive. Or, we are now offering the option of connecting to our conference call line via skype or phone. If you select this option, your session will be recorded and Fran, our webmaster, will send you the link on the same day, so that you can download the recording. Please indicate your preference in the "comments" section when you register, and Susan will send you the information you need if you choose the conference call line option.

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"In Love & Light,"
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RE: God? Gallactics? Or Man? What ARE your thoughts?
7/19/2011 10:28:55 PM
LOL! I think I'm female...hehe. Iposted a little bit back there about the "Attitude Is Everything" forum in general, being one long thread that's heavily visited, among tons of spam threads in that forum, and how that entire forum won a BFA award based solely upon 1 thread, while the entire forum has been an uncleaned-up spamathon for years, is a complete mystery, in a judged election with a cash prize. Very unusual. The answer is...popularity contest overrides rules. I hope the new Top Program contest will actually be based on programs, not people, it says it will, I hope it does.
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