Linda, I haven't done the Paypal one because I tried another one last summer. No, I didn't make money. Zip, Zilch, Nada. And I won't try another, because there are surer ways to make money. If it were fun, I'd do it anyway, more on that below. I do have to mention, in all fairness, that hope springs eternal, and that's what keeps these things going for as long as they do go. You can't blame someone for wanting to better their financial situation. This low-cost method is very tempting for someone who doesn't have much money to get started in something that might, just might, make money. Stories like Arild's feed that hope...it works for someone, why not me? To me it's like gambling. Even though I make my living teaching people financial responsibility, I do enjoy playing blackjack at a casino once in a while. It's entertainment, not a money-making venture. When I do play, I never risk more than I can afford to lose. The fact that I am skilled enough to break even always or come out ahead occasionally doesn't negate the rule. Never risk more than you can afford to lose. If you can afford to lose $15, and don't like blackjack ;-) , why not give it a whirl? Just know it's gambling. Cheri

There are so many that does`nt make money on randomizers, and one thing is for shure - the promote/ads are 90% of the success. I found that after our friend John did not allow autosurf-ads anymore, and then all stopped up - almost. I am the kind of person who thinks that money has to be worked for, thats why I work 110-130 hours a week also - so all my things are rolling :-) Do NOT the same! Take care Arild

I thought the same thing as Gary, when I was first approached about one of these programs. Electronic pyramid. The only difference I can see is that the initial investment is less.

Gary, If that logic had really been true, AmWay would have been out of business long ago. No one company will ever get a corner on the market. However, even if your logic held true, many many people would have earned some very good money. Do the numbers with the money also. I am not defending any one program. I am just pointing out that a purely analytical approach never works in the human equation especially with only one variable.

Hi David, Now, before I start, please don't think that I am barking at you or being personally critical in any way. I just want to respond to something. These "schemes" irritate me because they are just so unfair. Having said that... There is nothing wrong with my logic. You cannot argue with the numbers. I agree with what you said about Amway. It is never going to go out of business - so long as there is a "swirling mass" of people right at the very bottom of the pyramid who are sold on the emotion of the dream. However, Amway is the facilitator of products. In essence, it sits right at the very top of the mountain - even before all its diamond, double diamond, triple diamond and crown ambassadors (top marketing levels). Again, the numbers - less that one third of one percent of all distributors (0.3%) ever reach a position where the returns outweigh the expenditure. This means that 99.7% actually lose money. Like all these schemes they rely on massive recruitment at the bottom end. The ones that become mathematically impossible are the ones like this Paypal Randomizer thing that stipulate that 1 must get 3. Eventually you HAVE to run out of numbers. It is impossible not to. What my numeric representation did not take into acount (though I mentioned it) were all the people who would NOT participate. That cripples the numbers even further, adding even more weight to the logic. People are sold on emotion, not logic. If it were the reverse then "opportunities" like this would fail far more quickly than they do. At some point during the "investment" most people realize that the promised returns will not be there and either become dormant or quit. But the originators have already got the money, so what do they do? They just holler: "Next!" They don't care. Their cash cow is still mooing. Just on Amway to finish up... It is like so many other MLM's with all their downlines etc - it has to keep re-inventing itself to maintain interest. All the money is pushed to the top with a very small trickle running down the mountain so that all the REAL workers get just enough to keep them working. Do a Google search on "Amway complaints" and you will see the real story that none of the "big pins" or the company itself wants revealed. So many diamond, DD's, TD's and Crown Ambassadors have quit. Why? This latest "randomizer" scheme preys on two things: 1 - emotion - "whoopee, money for nothing!" 2 - justified logic - "ah. it's only $5 anyway." I guess you guys get the feeling that I probably won't be joining it. Your darn right! Gary Simpson.