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RE: Your Friday Chuckle (On Saturday - Again :) ) 5/8/09
1/11/2010 9:35:10 PM
Hello Friends,

Attorney General E Holder made the ridiculous decision to try KSM and his 4 Al Qaeda partners in crime in a civilian court rather then in a military tribunal.

Over 68,000 Americans signed the petition requesting that Holder reverse his decision and try them in a military tribunal as they should have been to begin with.

Please join us and add your name to the petition.

Shalom,

Peter







The Hon. Eric Holder
Attorney General of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. Holder:

We, the editors of HUMAN EVENTS,RedState.com,andthe many Americans who have attached our names tothis petitionherebyrequest that you try al-Qaeda's confessed 9/11terroristmastermind,Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his four al-Qaedacohorts in amilitarytribunal, reversing your precedent-changingdecision to trythem in acivilian court in New York City.

There is noreason, muchless a requirement, under U.S. Constitutionalor statutorylaw to grantKSM and the others the right to a trial incivilian courts,nor to offerthem any of the correspondingConstitutional rightsafforded U.S.citizens. Logic, reason, andjustice demand that theterrorists whoplanned the 9/11 attacks betreated as enemy combatantsin a war againstthe United States, not ascommon civilian criminals.

Our reasons for urging you to reverse your decision include:

1.Tryingthese terrorists in a civilian court would be a break with200+years ofAmerican jurisprudence. From British spies during theWar ofIndependenceto Nazi saboteurs caught on U.S. soil during WorldWar II,we have triedthose who make war against America in military,notcivilian, courts.This change in policy sets a potentiallycatastrophicprecedent. This would not happen with a military tribunal;

2.Thevery real possibility exists that if tried in a civiliancourt, KSMandthe others could be acquitted on a technicality, such astheir nothavingbeen informed of their Miranda rights, or having beendenied aspeedytrial. This would not happen with a military tribunal;

3.KSMand the others should not be allowed to hijack our courts,usingthem asa media circus to promulgate their hate-filled, extremistviews.This would not happen with a military tribunal;

4.Acivilian trial would send the dangerous message to our enemiesthattheUnited States has reverted to its ineffective,pre-9/11crime-fightingapproach to terrorism. This would not happen with a military tribunal;

5.Ina civilian trial, valuable intelligence aboutinterrogationtechniquesand other classified information will berevealed toAmerica's enemies,giving them a huge advantage insuccessfullycarrying out terrorist plotsin the future. This would not happen with a military tribunal;

6.Americansare willing to pay to ensure justice is served. However, theestimatedsecurity cost of $200 million for the KSM trialis completelyavoidableand a total waste of taxpayer money. This would not happen with a military tribunal; and

7.WhileAmericans are willing and able to stand up to protectthemselvesandtheir property, trying KSM and the others in New Yorkinvites aterroristattack, creating a huge, unnecessary risk to ourcourtworkers, jurors,and everyone in the New York City area. This would not happen with a military tribunal;

Ourfinalwords are from David Beamer, father of Todd Beamer, one oftheheroes ofUnited Flight 93: "Our enemies must be thrilled" hewrote ofyourdecision to give KSM and the others a civilian trial inManhattan."Weare willingly handing them an opportunity to inflicteconomic harmon NewYork City, keep their cause in the headlines,gather newintelligence,create new terror strategies, stimulaterecruiting,celebrate new foundrights, and foist a fresh round of painandsuffering upon theirvictims."

Mr. Holder, asAttorneyGeneral of the UnitedStates, it was within your power to movethetrial of KSM from a militarytribunal to a civilian court. Itisequally within your power to reversethat dangerous decision.Werequest that you do so forthwith.

Respectfully submitted,

The Editors of HUMAN EVENTS and RedState.com

Petition signers include the following leaders
Former Virginia Governor George Allen
Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.)
Columnist and author Ann Coulter
Congressman John Fleming (R - La.)
Publisher Steve Forbes
Former Congressman Vito Fossella (R.-N.Y.)
Congressman Trent Franks (R.-Ariz)
Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee
Congressman Jim Jordan (R.-Ohio)
Congressman Pete King (R.-N.Y.)
Former Congressman Rick Lazio (R.-N.Y.)
Radio talk show host and author Mark Levin
NY State Conservative Party Chairman Mike Long
Columnist and author Michelle Malkin
Actor and author Chuck Norris
Former New York Governor George Pataki
Congressman Tom Price (R.-Ga)
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney
Congressman Aaron Schock (R.-Ill)
Congressman John Shadegg (R.-Ariz)
Congressmen John Shimkus (R.-Ill)
Congressman Todd Tiahrt (R.-Kan)


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RE: Your Friday Chuckle (On Saturday - Again :) ) 5/8/09
1/11/2010 9:54:39 PM

Here's another good one I just received. :):):)

TEACHER ARRESTED IN NEW YORK -


A public school teacher was arrested today at John F. Kennedy International
Airport as he attempted to board a flight while in possession of a ruler, a
protractor, a compass, a slide-rule and a calculator.

At a morning press conference, the Attorney General Eric Holder said he
believes the man is a member of the notorious Al-Gebra movement. He did not
identify the man, who has been charged by the FBI with carrying weapons of
math instruction.

'Al-Gebra is a problem for us', the Attorney General said. 'They derive
solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go off on tangents in search
of absolute values.' They use secret code names like 'X' and 'Y' and refer
to themselves as 'unknowns', but we have determined that they belong to a
common denominator of the axis of medieval with coordinates in every
country.

As the Greek philanderer Isosceles used to say, 'There are 3 sides to every
triangle'.

When asked to comment on the arrest, President Obama said, 'If God had
wanted us to have better weapons of math instruction, he would have given us
more fingers and toes.'

White House aides told reporters they could not recall a more intelligent or
profound statement by the President. It is believed that the Nobel Prize for
Physics will soon follow---

:):)

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RE: Your Friday Chuckle (On Saturday - Again :) ) 5/8/09
1/11/2010 10:03:22 PM
Hi All,

Evelyn, that was to funny and B Hussein certainly deserves the Nobel Prize for the subservience and bowing. And that one he earned all on his own.

This one is different but certainly has it's humorous side to it. Think about it how stupid can those protesters be pelting members of a motorcycle club?

I guess these dummies are the ones we can blame for B Hussein sitting in the White House. Sorta depressing isn't it.

Shalom,

Peter

Johnstown, PA (GlossyNews) Local and state police scoured the hills outside rural Johnstown, Pennsylvania, after reports of three animal rights activists going missing after attempting to protest the wearing of leather at a large motorcycle gang rally this weekend. Two others, previously reported missing, were discovered by fast food workers “duct taped inside several fast food restaurant dumpsters,” according to police officials.

“Something just went wrong,” said a still visibly shaken organizer of the protest. “Something just went horribly, horribly, wrong.”

The organizer said a group of concerned animal rights activist groups, “growing tired of throwing fake blood and shouting profanities at older women wearing leather or fur coats,” decided to protest the annual motorcycle club event “in a hope to show them our outrage at their wanton use of leather in their clothing and motor bike seats.” “In fact,” said the organizer, “motorcycle gangs are one of the biggest abusers of wearing leather, and we decided it was high time that we let them know that we disagree with them using it…ergo, they should stop.”

According to witnesses, protesters arrived at the event in a vintage 1960’s era Volkswagen van and began to pelt the gang members with balloons filled with red colored water, simulating blood, and shouting “you’re murderers” to passers by. This, evidently, is when the brouhaha began.

“They peed on me!!!” charged one activist. “They grabbed me, said I looked like I was French, started calling me ‘La Trene’, and duct taped me to a tree so they could pee on me all day!”

“I…I was trying to show my outrage at a man with a heavy leather jacket, and he…he didn’t even care. I called him a murderer, and all he said was, ‘You can’t prove that.’ Next thing I know he forced me to ride on the back of his motorcycle all day, and would not let me off, because his girl friend was out of town and I was almost a woman.”

Still others claimed they were forced to eat hamburgers and hot dogs under duress. Those who resisted were allegedly held down while several bikers “farted on their heads.”

Police officials declined comments on any leads or arrests due to the ongoing nature of the investigation, however, organizers for the motorcycle club rally expressed “surprise” at the allegations.

“That’s preposterous,” said one high-ranking member of the biker organizing committee. “We were having a party, and these people showed up and were very rude to us. They threw things at us, called us names, and tried to ruin the entire event. So, what did we do? We invited them to the party! What could be more friendly than that? You know, just because we are all members of motorcycle clubs does not mean we do not care about inclusiveness. Personally, I think it shows a lack of character for them to be saying such nasty things about us after we bent over backwards to make them feel welcome.”

When confronted with the allegations of force-feeding the activists meat, using them as ad hoc latrines, leaving them incapacitated in fast food restaurant dumpsters, and ‘farting on their heads,’ the organizer declined to comment in detail. “That’s just our secret handshake,” assured the organizer.
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RE: Your Friday Chuckle (On Saturday - Again :) ) 5/8/09
1/11/2010 10:20:38 PM

Hi Peter,

Not only have I signed the Petition, it has been sent to every single person, on each maiing to which I belong.

Like I said, we must laugh to keep from crying - sometimes its so hard...

And The Scariest One Of All - They Are HERE!!!

God Bless & Keep You My Friends,

Phil

“There may be trouble all around, but I am calling you to a place of peace. Be still and know that I am God. Come to Me, and I will give you wisdom, strength, and grace for everything you face." Psalm 46:10
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RE: Your Friday Chuckle (On Saturday - Again :) ) 5/8/09
1/11/2010 10:46:10 PM
Hi Phil,

Quote:

Hi Peter,

Not only have I signed the Petition, it has been sent to every single person, on each maiing to which I belong.

Like I said, we must laugh to keep from crying - sometimes its so hard...



It certainly is a sad state of affairs when the Attorney General with the support of MR. B Hussein Obowma the great pretender allows enemies of the United States rights reserved for citizens to these murderers. They compounded this error with the terrorist that almost succeeded in blowing up a plane over Detroit. Read him his rights.

Shame there isn't a Nobel Prize for Stupid MR President B Hussein Obowma certainly deserves it. Let's not blow that one out of proportion and "jump to conclusions".

Shalom,

Peter

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