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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
10/19/2013 10:10:56 AM

Did you ever think that you would see the day when the US government acted against their own people is such a dastardly way? Unbelievable!!

One of the things that amazes me most is that American Jews don't see the similarity between pre-WW2 Germany and the USA now under Obama. I have a Jewish woman on my email list and if I send anything to my list that is anti-Obama, she gets really upset. She even made up the excuse that her computer was down and asked me not to send emails for a while. That was a year ago. She has never asked to be re-instated in my list. I know it has only to do with her dye-in-the-wool Democratic views. I understand that most of the Jews in the USA are Democrats and they act the same way. So sad to let a political party be your god. Thankfully, Peter, you are not in that group.

We need to pray for them that their eyes be opened to the truth whatever it might be according to God.

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
10/19/2013 11:30:00 AM
Hi Helen,

Unfortunately I have to agree with you. It is a sore point that so many of my American Jewish brethren are still so connected to the democratic party. The truth be told many of them have no faith in B Hussein but their party loyalty keeps them in the fold.

Between 30 - 40% of the American Jews are conservatives and see through the fraud and great pretender B Hussein. Many of the are fighting the good fight and some at the fore front of the conservative fight. Not enough but I hope that this will change.

Many of them do realize that B Hussein is no friend to Israel and in the last elections quite a few that voted for B Hussein in 2008 didn't vote for him in 2012. Not enough unfortunately.

Shalom,

Peter

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Did you ever think that you would see the day when the US government acted against their own people is such a dastardly way? Unbelievable!!

One of the things that amazes me most is that American Jews don't see the similarity between pre-WW2 Germany and the USA now under Obama. I have a Jewish woman on my email list and if I send anything to my list that is anti-Obama, she gets really upset. She even made up the excuse that her computer was down and asked me not to send emails for a while. That was a year ago. She has never asked to be re-instated in my list. I know it has only to do with her dye-in-the-wool Democratic views. I understand that most of the Jews in the USA are Democrats and they act the same way. So sad to let a political party be your god. Thankfully, Peter, you are not in that group.

We need to pray for them that their eyes be opened to the truth whatever it might be according to God.

Helen

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Least we forget and to remind all of you that voted for this fraud and continue to turn a blind eye to his thuggery, a recap.............

Government Shutdown Thuggery by Obama NPS Gestapo




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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
10/19/2013 2:22:58 PM
Hello Helen and Peter, as more and more come to light of what is hidden in Obamacare it only shows just how evil it really is. I saw this article yesterday and the first thing that came to mind was St Jude's Hospital in Memphis Tennessee that treats children with cancer who have no insurance.


Obamacare levies fines on non-profit hospitals that offer free healthcare to the poor

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It’s one of the lesser-known provisions in the so-called “Affordable” Care Act, but it’s having a major impact on charitable hospitals. Obamacare actually fines hospitals that provide free health services to the poor.

from Daily Caller:

Charitable hospitals that treat uninsured Americans will be subjected to new levels of scrutiny of their nonprofit status and could face sizable new fines under Obamacare.

A new provision in Section 501 of the Internal Revenue Code, which takes effect under Obamacare, sets new standards of review and installs new financial penalties for tax-exempt charitable hospitals, which devote a minimum amount of their expenses to treat uninsured poor people. Approximately 60 percent of American hospitals are currently nonprofit.

Charity for the uninsured is one of the factors that could discourage enrollment in Obamacare, which requires all Americans to purchase health insurance or else face new taxes themselves from the IRS.

“It requires tax-exempt hospitals to do a community needs survey and file additional paperwork with the IRS every three years. This is to prove that the charitable hospital is still needed in their geographical area — ‘needed’ as defined by Obamacare and overseen by IRS bureaucrats,” said John Kartch, spokesman for Americans for Tax Reform.

“Failure to comply, or to prove this continuing need, could result in the loss of the hospital’s tax-exempt status. The hospital would then become a for-profit venture, paying income tax — hence the positive revenue score” for the federal government, Kartch said. “Obamacare advocates turned over every rock to find as much tax money as possible.”

Additionally, the rise in the number of insured Americans under Obamacare will make it more difficult for tax-exempt hospitals to continue meeting required thresholds for treating the uninsured, driving more hospitals into the for-profit category and yielding more taxable money for the federal government.

“The requirements generally apply to any section 501(c)(3) organization that operates at least one hospital facility,” according to a “Technical Explanation” report of new Obamacare provisions prepared by the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) on March 21, 2010, the day Obamacare passed.

Obamacare’s new requirements could slam hospitals with massive $50,000 fines if they fail to meet bureaucrats’ standards.

read the rest

It’s ironic isn’t it? The left’s chief complaint about the American healthcare system is that it’s “for profit,” but Obamacare will end up forcing non-profit hospitals to either go under or become for-profit institutions themselves.

From day 1, Obamacare has not been about improving healthcare or making it more affordable. It’s been about government control. Sadly, the American people are only now beginning to find out the truth about how devastatingly unaffordable the Affordable Care Act really is.

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
10/20/2013 11:57:47 AM

Why didn't I think of that?

Helen


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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
10/20/2013 1:14:39 PM
Hi Evelyn,

This article shows exactly what the mindset of the B Hussein regime is. All they're basically interested in is more taxes.

Let's remember that the dems along with B Hussein said there will be no tax hikes connected to obamacare and as each day goes by we discover just how many taxes are "hidden" in the 1200 pages that they never read before voting to approve it.

Now they're gonna penalize non profit hospitals and punish the many thousands of people who are served in those institutions. Just so the government can get more taxes in their coffers. People will die but they couldn't care less.

They are not only disgusting people with B Hussein at the head of the pyramid but extremely evil as well.

Shalom,

Peter

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Hello Helen and Peter, as more and more come to light of what is hidden in Obamacare it only shows just how evil it really is. I saw this article yesterday and the first thing that came to mind was St Jude's Hospital in Memphis Tennessee that treats children with cancer who have no insurance.


Obamacare levies fines on non-profit hospitals that offer free healthcare to the poor

image

It’s one of the lesser-known provisions in the so-called “Affordable” Care Act, but it’s having a major impact on charitable hospitals. Obamacare actually fines hospitals that provide free health services to the poor.

from Daily Caller:

Charitable hospitals that treat uninsured Americans will be subjected to new levels of scrutiny of their nonprofit status and could face sizable new fines under Obamacare.

A new provision in Section 501 of the Internal Revenue Code, which takes effect under Obamacare, sets new standards of review and installs new financial penalties for tax-exempt charitable hospitals, which devote a minimum amount of their expenses to treat uninsured poor people. Approximately 60 percent of American hospitals are currently nonprofit.

Charity for the uninsured is one of the factors that could discourage enrollment in Obamacare, which requires all Americans to purchase health insurance or else face new taxes themselves from the IRS.

“It requires tax-exempt hospitals to do a community needs survey and file additional paperwork with the IRS every three years. This is to prove that the charitable hospital is still needed in their geographical area — ‘needed’ as defined by Obamacare and overseen by IRS bureaucrats,” said John Kartch, spokesman for Americans for Tax Reform.

“Failure to comply, or to prove this continuing need, could result in the loss of the hospital’s tax-exempt status. The hospital would then become a for-profit venture, paying income tax — hence the positive revenue score” for the federal government, Kartch said. “Obamacare advocates turned over every rock to find as much tax money as possible.”

Additionally, the rise in the number of insured Americans under Obamacare will make it more difficult for tax-exempt hospitals to continue meeting required thresholds for treating the uninsured, driving more hospitals into the for-profit category and yielding more taxable money for the federal government.

“The requirements generally apply to any section 501(c)(3) organization that operates at least one hospital facility,” according to a “Technical Explanation” report of new Obamacare provisions prepared by the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) on March 21, 2010, the day Obamacare passed.

Obamacare’s new requirements could slam hospitals with massive $50,000 fines if they fail to meet bureaucrats’ standards.

read the rest

It’s ironic isn’t it? The left’s chief complaint about the American healthcare system is that it’s “for profit,” but Obamacare will end up forcing non-profit hospitals to either go under or become for-profit institutions themselves.

From day 1, Obamacare has not been about improving healthcare or making it more affordable. It’s been about government control. Sadly, the American people are only now beginning to find out the truth about how devastatingly unaffordable the Affordable Care Act really is.

Peter Fogel
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