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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
11/8/2012 3:20:09 PM
Peter my old friend that is the most pathetic and idiotic response I have seen yet. Your party only turned out 32% of registered Republican voters, to the Democrats 36% that is why you lost this election. As it was I did vote Romney as I live in "Swing State" and guess what my vote was totally wasted as Florida has yet to be decided and Obummer won anyway. I will never do that again.

Please do not insult yours and my intelligence by offering up ignorant remarks as you have stated here.

Jim

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Hi Jim,

I'm a bit surprised at your response. Unless you changed your mind at the last minute you said you'll vote for a third party candidate and if you did you contributed to B Hussein's getting reelected as much as those that voted for him.

That said the fight goes on and we have to insure that he'll do as little damage as possible.

Shalom,

Peter

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Helen I admire your faith wish I still had some. Its over and time to find a new home. Amerika lives here now its their country. its over.

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Hello All
The election results were a BIG disappointment and a BIG surprise. I don't want to be like the Democrats who see a conspiracy theory behind every tree but I can't help wondering if the election was rigged for Obama to win.
There were so many people who voted for him in 2008 who were totally disgusted with him this time. O'Bumbler made so many mistakes (many deliberately) that if any other president would have done what he did, there is no way they would have been re-elected.
We know that the gov't is really run by the big corporations and the so-called 'elite' and it would be important for them to have someone in office who can be bought and Obama certainly is buyable. Also they know they can manipulate Obama after having dealt with him for 4 years. They weren't so sure they could do that with Romney.

I got the feeling that Romney would have been in for a big surprise if he got elected in that he would have to bend ...A LOT ..to the powers that really run the USA. I also got the feeling he would not be as easily led as Obama was.

If Romney had won, he may have been assassinated if he dug in his heels about some of the things the 'rulers' would want him to do. Maybe they didn't want to have to do an assassination so they rigged the election instead. What do you think? Am I getting too far-fetched?

At any rate, it is really scary. Americans are going to have to be very vigilant this term. I suggest we start sending emails to liberals everywhere. It is so easy to talk about these things when everyone agrees with each other but it is not much fun when someone gets angry with you. We will have to stop being cowards and wake up a few people.

There still is hope. They haven't counted all the votes yet and God is able to perform a miracle. I am sure He has a reason for all of this. One thing is certain, Obama will not be in the WH if God doesn't want him there so if he is there it is because God has a plan. He is also able to expose any election fraud.

We must remember to pray. There are some things that only God can solve.

Helen

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For those of you who are gloating over this win, remember this one thing - God will not be mocked and there is a judgement day coming, if not in this life then in the after life. When the time comes for you to stand before God, how will you answer to voting for an administration that mocked God three times, favors the murder of the unborn, for a man who sat and watched as four Americans were murdered in Benghazi and refused their cry's for help? By voting for Obama you now have the blood of these fellow Americans on your hands and all the innocent babies who never had a chance in life.
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Exclusive: Joseph Farah on Obama election: 'It's time to double-down and fight harder'

For many of us, the unthinkable has happened.

America has decisively turned the corner away from the constitutional principles of limited government and self-government with the re-election of Barack Obama.

There may be no way home for us.

For those of us who fundamentally reject Obama’s policies, things are going to get very rough for the next four years. We have allowed our fellow Americans to pronounce judgment on the nation.

That’s what Obama represents to me – God’s judgment on a people who have turned away from Him and His ways and from everything for which our founders sacrificed their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.

The nation is divided like never before – intentionally so. That has been Obama’s game plan from the beginning – to build a constituency of special-interest groups that truly believe their salvation is found in bigger government, more programs, irresponsible spending and unconstitutional policies.

This election could very well represent the beginning of the end of the American Dream, American exceptionalism, the American way.

But it’s no time to give up – to throw up our hands in disgust and walk away from politics. Neither is it time to surrender to the radical social agenda Obama has championed to win his victory.

It’s time to change tactics.

It’s time to double-down and fight harder.

It’s time to raise our collective voices of outrage.

It’s time to form new alliances.

It’s time to form new communities of people who understand just how much Americans have been disenfranchised from our God-given rights and responsibilities.

But, at the end of the day, people generally get the kind of government they deserve.

When you turn away from the ways of God Almighty, this is what you should expect, if you are a student of the Bible and history.

I’m not going to lie to you.

I think things are going to get very tough in America over the next four years.

I expect more division, more stratification, maybe even the disintegration of the constitutional republic that was the envy of the world for so long.

It’s time to hunker down.

It’s time to prepare for the worst – economically, militarily, socially, culturally.

The revolutionaries have won a major political victory.

The America haters are running the country for another four years.

That is not a pretty prospect.

But it’s not time to retreat. It’s time for those of us who love what America has been for most of its history to gather our wits and begin the long march back.

Most of all, it’s time for collective repentance.

Only a miracle can save us – and we need to humble ourselves before God and pray hard for one.

Can we find our way home? Is the political system even viable for us anymore? Has our heritage of representative government been permanently robbed from us? Are our cultural institutions – from the press to the schools and universities to the major foundations and even our churches – let us down so badly that there is no hope of restoring the America we once knew and loved?

I don’t know the answers to these questions.

But we must not retreat. We must not hide. We must not be intimidated. We must not stop fighting for truth, justice and the American way.

Maybe we deserve this punishment for taking our lifestyles for granted. Maybe we deserve this judgment for our own individual and collective sins. Maybe there’s still time to turn things around because we serve a Creator of second and third chances.

One thing is for certain: Our national condition is going to get much worse before it gets better.

May Wisdom and the knowledge you gained go with you,



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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
11/9/2012 9:45:57 AM
Hi Peter and all ,
I thought you might enjoy this little Paulbot diddie I found .. It made me so angry, I had to go take a long walk . The Paul bots have struck again and they think it's funny ! They did their share in helping us loose the election .. they are rejoicing over helping Obama destroy what was left of America !
Shalom ,
Geketa



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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
11/9/2012 12:43:24 PM

Hi Geketa

Thanks for that interesting information. I didn't know that Ron Paul was still in the running. Did he run as an independant?

I thought Romney won the nomination and that would leave anyone else out of the running. That shows what I know about American politics.

Helen

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Hi Peter and all ,
I thought you might enjoy this little Paulbot diddie I found .. It made me so angry, I had to go take a long walk . The Paul bots have struck again and they think it's funny ! They did their share in helping us loose the election .. they are rejoicing over helping Obama destroy what was left of America !
Shalom ,
Geketa



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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
11/9/2012 12:50:31 PM

I hope this picture turns out ok.

Helen

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
11/9/2012 2:29:55 PM
Hi Jim,

Sorry for the delay in replying but I was offline yesterday and part of today and just now saw your post.

For a person who's been promoting and campaigning for a third party candidate ever since the GOP convention you have to consider who's the ignorant, idiotic and pathetic one.

Let's consider what's happened since Romney won the GOP primaries.

1. You were posting about the ronbots taking over the GOP convention and all sorts of surprises the paulians had in store for the GOP convention. It was a non starter just like your candidate was from the start but never the less you and the paulians were convinced it all would happen.

2. After the GOP convention you were actively supporting a third party vote, adding Paul's name to the ballot or not voting at all. Any of the above was a vote for B Hussein.

3. Your reason for the above was the ridiculous claim that there is no difference between Romney and B Hussein. While Romney was not my first choice or second or third but after he won the primaries he got my support. But not so with the paulians and ronbots. All you and others who think like you did was support B Hussein with your third party vote for Johnson or not to vote at all.

You might find the lack of GOP voters right there in your group while not very large but could easily be the 4% difference in the GOP voters on Tuesday. Possibly more and then Romney would have won.

Check your history and you'll find your turnabout in 2008 when you became an overnight "conservative" after your then choice Hillary Clinton lost the Dem primaries. So it's hard to know where you really stand politically since your changes are so "dramatic". Consistency isn't part of your makeup it seems.

I've never been a member of the GOP but I have been a life long conservative and voted accordingly. If you did vote for Romney on election day I'm glad to hear it but saying it publicly as loudly as you did your third party campaigning might have caused others to vote in the same way.

Till now I haven't called you any names (and I'll continue in that manner) aside from a ronbot (which you are) but you chose to act differently. The paulian camp decided that if their kook who never had a chance didn't win they're gonna do their best to cause Romney to lose in what was one of the most important elections during our lifetime. I think the names you used belong to that camp but you're welcome to think what you will. Just be consistent and don't play as if you were against B Hussein's win when you actively aided and abetted it with your third party and anti "duopoly" campaigning.

BTW, your first response did surprise me but your second didn't. Truths have a way of hitting soft spots and I guess my post did that. One tends to attack when that happens and you lived up to form I'm sorry to say. I'm truly sorry but remember we've been friends for a long time and I know you very well. I admit you've changed during this election cycle and we've unfortunately lost touch but since the internet is an open place you've seen my posts here and elsewhere as I've seen yours. There are no secrets in that regard. So you were very transparent with your plans for this election knowing it might cos Romney to lose.

Another BTW for you is the silly reason you gave for deciding to vote for Romney (if you did). With all your "principals and "he's the lesser of two evils" campaigning why would the fact that Florida is a swing state make you vote for Romney if he's no better then B Hussein (according to you and the ronbot fellowship)? That simply doesn't make sense and if anything is a cop out now. As a man of "principal" it really wouldn't matter that Florida was a swing state. I had a chuckle over that pathetic excuse or reasoning if you wish.

Jim, Geketa just posted information that supports what I said above. Congratulate yourself for being part of the "Ron Paul Revolution". Here's what she posted.
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Hi Peter and all ,
I thought you might enjoy this little Paulbot diddie I found .. It made me so angry, I had to go take a long walk . The Paul bots have struck again and they think it's funny ! They did their share in helping us loose the election .. they are rejoicing over helping Obama destroy what was left of America !
Shalom ,
Geketa




Shalom,

Peter



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Peter my old friend that is the most pathetic and idiotic response I have seen yet. Your party only turned out 32% of registered Republican voters, to the Democrats 36% that is why you lost this election. As it was I did vote Romney as I live in "Swing State" and guess what my vote was totally wasted as Florida has yet to be decided and Obummer won anyway. I will never do that again.

Please do not insult yours and my intelligence by offering up ignorant remarks as you have stated here.

Jim

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Hi Jim,

I'm a bit surprised at your response. Unless you changed your mind at the last minute you said you'll vote for a third party candidate and if you did you contributed to B Hussein's getting reelected as much as those that voted for him.

That said the fight goes on and we have to insure that he'll do as little damage as possible.

Shalom,

Peter

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Helen I admire your faith wish I still had some. Its over and time to find a new home. Amerika lives here now its their country. its over.

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Hello All
The election results were a BIG disappointment and a BIG surprise. I don't want to be like the Democrats who see a conspiracy theory behind every tree but I can't help wondering if the election was rigged for Obama to win.
There were so many people who voted for him in 2008 who were totally disgusted with him this time. O'Bumbler made so many mistakes (many deliberately) that if any other president would have done what he did, there is no way they would have been re-elected.
We know that the gov't is really run by the big corporations and the so-called 'elite' and it would be important for them to have someone in office who can be bought and Obama certainly is buyable. Also they know they can manipulate Obama after having dealt with him for 4 years. They weren't so sure they could do that with Romney.

I got the feeling that Romney would have been in for a big surprise if he got elected in that he would have to bend ...A LOT ..to the powers that really run the USA. I also got the feeling he would not be as easily led as Obama was.

If Romney had won, he may have been assassinated if he dug in his heels about some of the things the 'rulers' would want him to do. Maybe they didn't want to have to do an assassination so they rigged the election instead. What do you think? Am I getting too far-fetched?

At any rate, it is really scary. Americans are going to have to be very vigilant this term. I suggest we start sending emails to liberals everywhere. It is so easy to talk about these things when everyone agrees with each other but it is not much fun when someone gets angry with you. We will have to stop being cowards and wake up a few people.

There still is hope. They haven't counted all the votes yet and God is able to perform a miracle. I am sure He has a reason for all of this. One thing is certain, Obama will not be in the WH if God doesn't want him there so if he is there it is because God has a plan. He is also able to expose any election fraud.

We must remember to pray. There are some things that only God can solve.

Helen

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For those of you who are gloating over this win, remember this one thing - God will not be mocked and there is a judgement day coming, if not in this life then in the after life. When the time comes for you to stand before God, how will you answer to voting for an administration that mocked God three times, favors the murder of the unborn, for a man who sat and watched as four Americans were murdered in Benghazi and refused their cry's for help? By voting for Obama you now have the blood of these fellow Americans on your hands and all the innocent babies who never had a chance in life.
BETWEEN THE LINES
Exclusive: Joseph Farah on Obama election: 'It's time to double-down and fight harder'

For many of us, the unthinkable has happened.

America has decisively turned the corner away from the constitutional principles of limited government and self-government with the re-election of Barack Obama.

There may be no way home for us.

For those of us who fundamentally reject Obama’s policies, things are going to get very rough for the next four years. We have allowed our fellow Americans to pronounce judgment on the nation.

That’s what Obama represents to me – God’s judgment on a people who have turned away from Him and His ways and from everything for which our founders sacrificed their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.

The nation is divided like never before – intentionally so. That has been Obama’s game plan from the beginning – to build a constituency of special-interest groups that truly believe their salvation is found in bigger government, more programs, irresponsible spending and unconstitutional policies.

This election could very well represent the beginning of the end of the American Dream, American exceptionalism, the American way.

But it’s no time to give up – to throw up our hands in disgust and walk away from politics. Neither is it time to surrender to the radical social agenda Obama has championed to win his victory.

It’s time to change tactics.

It’s time to double-down and fight harder.

It’s time to raise our collective voices of outrage.

It’s time to form new alliances.

It’s time to form new communities of people who understand just how much Americans have been disenfranchised from our God-given rights and responsibilities.

But, at the end of the day, people generally get the kind of government they deserve.

When you turn away from the ways of God Almighty, this is what you should expect, if you are a student of the Bible and history.

I’m not going to lie to you.

I think things are going to get very tough in America over the next four years.

I expect more division, more stratification, maybe even the disintegration of the constitutional republic that was the envy of the world for so long.

It’s time to hunker down.

It’s time to prepare for the worst – economically, militarily, socially, culturally.

The revolutionaries have won a major political victory.

The America haters are running the country for another four years.

That is not a pretty prospect.

But it’s not time to retreat. It’s time for those of us who love what America has been for most of its history to gather our wits and begin the long march back.

Most of all, it’s time for collective repentance.

Only a miracle can save us – and we need to humble ourselves before God and pray hard for one.

Can we find our way home? Is the political system even viable for us anymore? Has our heritage of representative government been permanently robbed from us? Are our cultural institutions – from the press to the schools and universities to the major foundations and even our churches – let us down so badly that there is no hope of restoring the America we once knew and loved?

I don’t know the answers to these questions.

But we must not retreat. We must not hide. We must not be intimidated. We must not stop fighting for truth, justice and the American way.

Maybe we deserve this punishment for taking our lifestyles for granted. Maybe we deserve this judgment for our own individual and collective sins. Maybe there’s still time to turn things around because we serve a Creator of second and third chances.

One thing is for certain: Our national condition is going to get much worse before it gets better.

Peter Fogel
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