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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
7/31/2011 4:40:10 PM
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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
7/31/2011 4:46:46 PM
President N'Obama is in favor of bankrupting the world to fight nature while lining his own pockets.[if !mso]>

Forbes Magazine reports New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.

Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is "not much"). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds.

Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.

Real-world measurements show far less heat is being trapped in the earth's atmosphere than the alarmist computer models predict, and far more heat is escaping into space than the alarmist computer models predict.

When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.

Will this stop the global-warming fear-mongers? Of course not. Worse yet, even if global warming was a genuine threat, the cap-and-trade measures proposed as solutions are downright idiotic.

The Wall Street Journal blasted Obama's cap-and-trade proposal in March of 2009 in Who Pays for Cap and Trade?

Cap and trade is the tax that dare not speak its name, and Democrats are hoping in particular that no one notices who would pay for their climate ambitions. With President Obama depending on vast new carbon revenues in his budget and Congress promising a bill by May, perhaps Americans would like to know the deeply unequal ways that climate costs would be distributed across regions and income groups.

Politicians love cap and trade because they can claim to be taxing "polluters," not workers. Hardly. Once the government creates a scarce new commodity -- in this case the right to emit carbon -- and then mandates that businesses buy it, the costs would inevitably be passed on to all consumers in the form of higher prices. Stating the obvious, Peter Orszag -- now Mr. Obama's budget director -- told Congress last year that "Those price increases are essential to the success of a cap-and-trade program."

An economy-wide tax under the cover of saving the environment is the best political moneymaker since the income tax. Obama officials are already telling the press, sotto voce, that climate revenues might fund universal health care and other new social spending. No doubt they would...

Cap and trade, in other words, is a scheme to redistribute income and wealth -- but in a very curious way. It takes from the working class and gives to the affluent; takes from Miami, Ohio, and gives to Miami, Florida; and takes from an industrial America that is already struggling and gives to rich Silicon Valley and Wall Street "green tech" investors who know how to leverage the political class.

Cap-and-trade confers benefit to existing polluters at the expense of new businesses who will have to buy credits from existing ones. It sets up lucrative trading schemes that will benefit Wall Street derivatives traders and those peddling otherwise economically nonviable clean energy schemes.

Cap-and-trade also benefits China, the largest, most flagrant producer of greenhouse gasses. China will not go along with cap-and-trade so driving up costs elsewhere only serves to drive business to China!

Finally, and as Forbes states, cap-and-trade is a tax on consumers who will have to pay for such nonsense.

If global warming is a problem, the free market (not derivative traders, not nonviable clean-energy schemers), will find a solution.

Fortunately cap-and-trade died in the US senate. Unfortunately, no amount of research is likely to stop GE and other beneficiaries (as well a misguided fools led by Al Gore) from pushing the idea.

Addendum:

Some people have attacked the credibility of the Forbes article. I knew in advance they would. They miss my point in writing.

My point is about the silliness of cap-and-trade as a solution. The Forbes article gave me a chance to reiterate those points and I took it. I side with the Wall Street Journal adding my own reasons as well.

My points are valid whether or not one believes in the merits of the Forbes article as presented.

Addendum II:

My friend "HB" writes ...

I have always said the global warming hysteria was essentially based on a hoax. Yet governments spend nearly $60 billion globally on such dreck every year!

What would you do if you were a climate scientist, employed in a discipline that received a few 100 thousand dollars per year of government research funding to study global warming?

If they admit it's a hoax, they are jumping off a huge gravy train.

Exactly. Money flows to those bound to a set of predetermined answers that dictate 1. global warming exists in a meaningful way and 2. something sensible can be done about it on the slim chance it does exist in a meaningful way.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
7/31/2011 7:35:21 PM
Hi Rick,

Sucks is being complimentary. The same thing happened to me yesterday. I edited a post and then discovered that the post was printed twice. Once with the edit and the other the original. Other times it corrupts the fonts and makes them enormous. Soooo, Sucks just doesn't cover it. :)

The list of cuts is amazing. Add to it the monies B Hussein committed to the UN, foreign oil exploration, aid to unfriendly countries and so much more and you have to wonder why people are surprised the country is going broke. Oh yeah, let's not forget all his Czars. That costs more then a bundle. The economy is on the brink of disaster and and the blame is on the frauds administration.

The Global Warming scam is another avenue to spend the taxpayers money and at the same time fill the pockets of all his cronies. Idiot Gore is laughing all the way to the bank and the great pretender is getting his fair share too from what I've read on the net. Yep, the axiom follow the money is true in this case too. Thanks for an excellent article.

Shalom,

Peter

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
8/1/2011 7:06:41 AM
Hello Friends,

I wanted to share this video with you in order to set the record straight for some who are clueless about the financial crisis the United States is in and the absurd claims of the liberal socialists on the hill and in the MSM.

Reading the ridiculous claims different people are posting here and elsewhere you'd think the debt crisis is the fault of the Republicans and not the administration that's doing all the spending with his party backing him every step of the way. I wonder when they'll understand that claiming it is all Bush's fault is nonsensical and ridiculous when during the Bush administration both houses were controlled by the Democrats who passed the laws and created the climate of spend, spend, spend. No sense in reminding you what the unemployment was when the fraud and great pretender took office. Nor is the size of the deficit or the debt ceiling and that B Hussein spent more in two and a half years then Bush did relevant for them cos the fraud can do no wrong as far as they are concerned. Need I remind them that Freddie Mack and Fanny Mae were the cause of the financial crisis and the Dems said no problem there.

So, maybe if they listen to this young Senator from Florida Marco Rubio and hear simple to understand explanations about the situation as it stands now the truth will start to seep in. Shame this Senator is ineligible to run for President since his parents weren't citizens at the time of his birth even though he is American born. He would certainly have been a worthy contender. Oooops, the fraud and great pretender's father wasn't a citizen at the time of his birth either so what the h*ell is he doing in the White House???

Shalom,

Peter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_68GjR6V6zI


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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
8/1/2011 7:14:14 AM
Hello Friends,

We've been watching the drama in Washington with abated breath to see what agreements the 2 parties can come up with. What we forget is that the whole world is watching as well and the outcome can and will effect the world in different ways ....... most in a negative manner. And of course effect the United State's standing in the eyes of the world as a world leader.

Here's Dry Bones take on this issue.

Shalom,

Peter



Watching the U. S. debt limit crisis from outside of America is scary. The collapse of the American economy would pull us all down.

But watching America’s crisis from outside of America is scary for another reason. For much of the world America was a goal, a symbol of the future, the one world power, the world’s policeman. No matter how many times she disappointed us or frustrated us, we assumed that America would be there to lead the world.

It looks like “them days are gone forever."

What do you think?

-Dry Bones- Israel's Political Comic Strip Since 1973



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