Some people say I think too crudely, like a man, I had 2 older brothers who I would hang out with and drink and have ridiculous conversations, while two of us were still under the drinking age, my sisters didn't spend much time with me, anyway...

Men know the deal, women do also but they don't put it into words, the best way to get over it is to (go out & get laid) what? That's it! Put the mind on someone new & exciting, immediately.

When does the world of women change? We're pressured by other women not to realize any change, to stay the same, to bury our thoughts and our words, to gloss over what we know and what we think, and not say it. Where does that get us? Men move on, men go out & get laid by someone new & exciting, they don't write poems, they don't waste time, they move on, they move, they take risks & keep going.

Untitled Reality 2:

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Are you breathing
in my world?
Your heart beating,
your mind swirled?

Know you're out there,
living it.
Always somewhere,
thoughts alit.

Regular days
food and drink,
our normal ways,
say and think

Inside our head
filled with real
before it's said,
what we feel

Changes our pace,
expecting
more from your face,
accepting

What we say then,
do we see,
the make or break,
being we?

Kathleen

Very good.

I liked these lines in particular.

Inside our head
filled with real
before it's said,
what we feel

Thanks, Roger

That was also my favorite part of the poem when I read it back, I said...Wow, that IS a great chunk of the poem!

When we voice our thoughts, it creates a new reality that wasn't there a moment ago, fantastic or dangerous, the realness is only ours until we say it or write it, then it's out there, and formed into other peoples versions of their own new reality. There are billions of different unvoiced realities inside the heads of the world's population, all different versions of the same world, the same humanity, the same situations.

Same languages in different accents, laughable or creating wars, or secret pleasures, if someone says a common word in an uncommon way, and we like the way it sounds, and if they knew, they'd try not to say it, or become self-conscious. Why are people so...crazy? strange? just being people?

Kathleen,

Very true. I am not sure whether I'm lucky or unlucky in that I have (I suppose) learned to stop and ask "why?", when people say something cruel or unthinking as an immediate response. The answer, more often than not, fear, or a reminder of bad experiences in their head.

Sometimes people react badly because they don't realise why they provoked a certain response from another or why somebodys' words had so much impact upon them.

You might argue against what I say in that, I say, there are VERY FEW evil people in the world. We are all examples of our environment and upbringing.

An example would be one of the old-time Southern White Extremists. Most had been raised in an environment where black people had been supressed by them, for several generations and they were also living under the understood threat that if the black people were ever freed they themselves would be in danger, and to a slightly lesser extent, that their lifestyle would be demolished as well. A society like that, to hold itself together, would teach that these other people were only fit to be treated like that or worse. Were these people evil? Probably not in general terms because they learned TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS TRUE. If that was possible, what else are, what appear to be otherwise normal people, capable of believing?

My wife is at present VERY unwell and I see her fall asleep every few minutes but she is incapable of properly sleeping for more than a couple of hours. SHE IS CONVINCED that she is awake most of the time but the low oxygen levels in her brain mean that she can't differentiate between real and dream. Frightening and hugely arguement inspiring. But she's not mad just suffering a condition. She is very hurtful because she only knows the odd waking truth.

Sorry. Long explanation. I didn't mean to lecture, but just to point out that we are the result of experience and teaching.

Somebody like Hitler didn't start off hating jews, gypsies and black people, but, for either a love of power or a fear of his view that his "perfect society" was being diluted by inter-marriage or sub-human activity it became an obsession. When others agree and support your view it is easy to build on that idea. That's just what he did. He hit a common fear just at the right time and history is the result.

e.g. I have no argument with muslims in my society but I fear for my own christian based society which felt familiar and comfortable and represented, for me, what the English way of life was about. That way of life that I knew was really only a couple of generations old though. In previous times I would have been one of the supressed. easy to go over the top in protecting our interests, but understandable. So, I stop before I expound inhuman solutions.

All this from your few powerful words.

Thanks, you managed to use some time up while I wait for morning when, hopefully I can contact the specialist for my wife.

Roger