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Peter Fogel

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Re: PHILOXENIA REPLY TO ADLAND TOWN CRIER
1/17/2009 9:34:18 PM

 Hello Georgios,

I was out this evening and returned around 3am and found many skype and other im messages referring me to your new thread.

Due to the lateness of the hour I won't respond to all that you've written but will make a general reply and will return later in the day with a more detailed response.

The POTW doesn't give the admin any special privileges within the community other then the honor and now it appears dubious honor of running the 2 forums and
spending many hours of our time doing just that. Our only objective was to serve the community no more no less.

We treated all with respect and fairness. In the one instance when a misunderstanding occurred I tried and succeeded in resolving the issue with respect and politeness. The records are there to prove just that.

The POTW IS NOT a power base nor does it benefit from any special privelages and it surprises me that you think there is any power to abuse. Just as the POTW award is an honorary award so is the administration of the forums. It is a voluntary position and I was asked to  take it on and refused many times until John convinced me that as a personal favor to him I accept the responsibility. At this point in time I sincerely regret not standing fast with my gut feeling that it is a thankless job and no good will come from taking it on.

When a member participates in other forums even if heis the admin of the POTW he does so as a member of Adland from his/her personal account and had/has the rights to express his opinions and beliefs just as any other member does. Running the POTW doesn't strip you of your opinions and
beliefs and you are allowed to express them even if there is controversy involved.

From the replies in this forum so far only one alludes to any mistreatment and sadly it is a pure figment of her imagination but I will deal with  that elsewhere and not here.

I will return with a more detailed response later on.

Shalom,

Peter


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Georgios Paraskevopoulos

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Re: PHILOXENIA REPLY TO ADLAND TOWN CRIER
1/18/2009 5:39:25 AM
Hello Lydia!

Thank you for the video clip. Small children can play many games and mostly they do that nicer than we adults do. They are more honest and they don't use any tricks to play their games.

In one of your replies you mention Joyce. Like you, Joyce is a very good friend of mine and I can ensure you she is not directing anything against you.

You mention that you are very good friend with former POTW Team. I would like to do same, but now I think egoisms don't alowe me or them to do so.

The day before i got involved the POTY matter I posted an article having this logo:

KALEIDOSCOPE #9: INDO-GREEK KINGDOM OF INDIA

Posted: 2009-01-11 09:05 PM
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   Bogdan  John   Pauline  Peter     Georgios
I can tell you that there was no problem at all until the day after and I can tell you that I even had a friendly skype chat contact with Peter some hours before i posted in the POTY forum. Good for you to know is that I had no idea what have happened in AdLandPro the last month I was not very active. I just followed some forums.

It is up to everyone to chose his friends and his contacts. I count you to one of my best internet friends and you know that. I met you Christmas  days three years back (2005) in this community and I am very happy I did.

Here I stop because Peter came in to this forum and I will give a reply there too.

Happy Sunday
Georgios
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Re: PHILOXENIA REPLY TO ADLAND TOWN CRIER
1/18/2009 6:12:05 AM


Hello Georgios

You got what you wanted which is to get Peter et al to resign.  Why don't you just leave it alone instead of stirring up another hornet's nest.

You are nothing but a trouble maker. 

No, on second thought, you are much worse than a trouble maker with your bad attitudes and views. 

Please do us all a favor and YOU resign from Adland.

Helen


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Re: PHILOXENIA REPLY TO ADLAND TOWN CRIER
1/18/2009 6:17:36 AM


Hello Jo

Why would you say that Georgios is such a "wonderful person"?  Did you not read his email?   He not only is NOT a "wonderful person" but he is a reprobate and of a corrupt mind.

Helen

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Re: PHILOXENIA REPLY TO ADLAND TOWN CRIER
1/18/2009 6:21:33 AM


Hello Sara

Please explain to me what is this "wonderful thing" Georgios has done.  Did you not read what he wrote either?  If you had read what he wrote, you would not be saying the word "wonderful" and Georgios in the same sentence.

Helen

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