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Ana Maria Padurean

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - Egyptian Cleric Says-Valentines Day More Dangerous Then, Aids, Ebola and Cholera
2/13/2009 8:13:57 AM
Now, I didn't yet watched all the video but it was enough for me!
I never could IMAGINE there will be some one UPSET for people celebrating a day like VALENTINE'S?! Celebrating LOVE and understanding! ...

You know me - at least Peter - I'm not a so called religious person, meaning I don't use Gods name or Jesus' every step, and I don't know the Bible by heart as many does, but for me this is more like THE EVIL according to which:
 DIVIDE ET IMEPERA
works much better than ... I remember my grandma' (again) who always told us (my cousins and me growing up together at her) that when we are in harmony and loving each other, than GOD smiles and DEVIL cries!!! ...


I was taught to respect everyone's religion and beliefs, no matter what is that, but I cannot stop and ask myself what kind of "Prophet" is that!

I had to go and do my little own research and I was astonished finding this:

The Saudi religious authorities issued an edict indicating that "There are only two holidays in Islam - Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha - and any other holidays ... are inventions which Muslims are banned from" and calls again on the kingdom's subjects to "shun" Valentine's Day this year. In keeping with this prohibition, the Saudi religious police monitor stores selling roses and other gifts associated with the holiday. They have even arrested women for wearing red on Valentine's Day.

Saudi authorities are hardly alone in their fear and loathing of a fourteenth-century holiday named after the patron saint of lovers. In Iran last year, the police ordered shops to remove heart-and-flower decorations, not to speak of images of couples embracing.

In Pakistan, the Jamaat-e-Islami party, an Islamist organization, calls for a ban on Valentine's Day. One of its leaders dismisses it as "a shameful day" when Westerners "are just fulfilling and satisfying their sex thirst."

In Malaysia, a mufti thunders against the day: "We Muslims do not need such a culture or practice, which is clearly against the teachings of our religion [which are] complete, perfect and credible."

In the United States, Imam Jamal Said of the Bridgeview mosque outside Chicago condemns Valentine's Day (as well as Thanksgiving) as a non-Islamic holiday.

Nor do you have to be Muslim to hate Valentine's Day. In India, a leader of the radical Hindu group Shiv Sena has condemned the holiday as "nothing but a Western onslaught on India's culture to attract youth for commercial purposes." Shiv Sena members followed up by stealing Valentine's Day cards from a shop in central Bombay which they ceremonially burned in a bonfire. They also harassed hand-holding couples and threatened to shave the heads and beat young lovers who exchanged Valentine's Day cards and gifts.

This rage responds to the soaring popularity of the holiday in majority-Muslim countries and India. Restaurants promote Valentine's Day dinners, hotels offer balls, and stores advertise flowers, chocolates, and other gifts. Florists sell bounties of roses and barbers cut hearts into men's head hair. Television shows organize love-letter competitions. Newspapers publish amorous messages and offer advice on the best places to tryst (naming cafes, roofs, parks, and rickshaw taxis). Internet dating services enjoy a surge in usage, phone companies log added long-distance calling.

Though brand new in the Middle East and South Asia, the holiday has rapidly taken on the trappings of custom. "We have celebrated Valentine's Day every year," recounts a 23-year-old Bangladeshi woman. "We would wish each other a happy Valentine's Day on the phone at midnight. Later we used to exchange gifts."

The authorities might condemn this day of romance, but it appeals to lovers young and old, who happily carry out its newly-minted rituals.

In some cases, particularly in Iran, heavy-handed government action serves to alienate the population. "For weeks, I've been waiting for Valentine's Day to offer my boyfriend a gift of love and affection," says a 19-year old girl. "The crackdown only strengthens my position in rejecting the hard-line clerical rule." To other Iranians, the prohibition confirms how little the regime understands its population. One shopper, buying a red heart-and-rose card for her son-in-law, dismissed it as "only rigidity and cultural backwardness. Through the crackdown, they only buy people's greater hatred and enmity."

Valentine's Day is a light-hearted matter, but efforts to repress it symbolize an intent to make war on modernity. In this way, the generational and cultural struggle over heart-shaped cards points to a battle now underway for the soul of Islam. Can the religious authorities suppress what has come to be known as "Lover's Day"? Must Muslim governments double as nanny states, getting in the way of their youth's fun? Or do they have the confidence to allow families and peer pressure to keep this holiday within acceptable bounds?

Much hangs in the balance.


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In the morning when I've got to the office and went to greet the girls in the clinic, I found LIA reading an article about a Muslim woman who was CONVICTED to I don't know how many years of jail and 100 whip strikes (not sure how they are called in English but hope you will see what I mean here) because SHE WAS RAPED! Oh, my?! What kind of world are they living in?!

Even if one is aware of their "un-usual" traditions and habits, its difficult to stay away and not react!

Happy to live under other cultures footprint! We also celebrate LOVE along with you, but also in our own way on 24th of February!

So,

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to EVERYONE!

... and will be back to celebrate DRAGOBETE on the 24th too!

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With friendship,

Anamaria


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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - Egyptian Cleric Says-Valentines Day More Dangerous Then, Aids, Ebola and Cholera
2/13/2009 8:25:58 AM
Hello again,

Reading your last post Peter, I just wanted to add something to what I already said:

THE MUCH THEY STRUGGLE SOWING HATE INTO THEIR YOUTH HEARTS
just imagine what a DANGER celebrating LOVE means!? ...

I agree that this is like a VIRUS (love I mean) as once tasted NOT ONE PERSON which is not INSANE would choose HATE against LOVE!

I have never seen one single HAPPY PERSON because of HATE! MUCH MORE BECAUSE OF LOVE!

... but here I am again:

WHAT KIND OF PARENT DON'T WANT HIS KIDS TO BE HAPPY!?

Beyond us! We will never be able to understand this!

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a few more to make their Prophet HAPPY!

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Anamaria
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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - Egyptian Cleric Says-Valentines Day More Dangerous Then, Aids, Ebola and Cholera
2/13/2009 9:13:36 AM


Hello Anamaria

This objection to Valentine's Day just shows how sick
and corrupted these people are.  It is ok to kill people
(or beat them half to death) but it is not ok to give a
piece of colored paper to someone you love. 

Do you know that a Muslim husband can legally beat
his wife if she refuses to grant him sex ...even if she
is preparing dinner at the stove?   He should try a
little romancing instead and buy his wife a lovely card
and some
chocolates.

Maybe the Muslims and the Indians are worried that
a Valentine card might show respect for a woman and
they would not want her to get any ideas that maybe
she is a person ...or anything more than a possession.


Have a Happy Valentine's Day anyway!

God bless you and your family!

Helen





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2/13/2009 10:11:19 AM
Hello Helen :-)

Yes I know; wives are kind of "properties" for Muslims! They actually buy them with money or what ever "currency" they have! (sheep, camel, or what so ever) ... but I don't want now to get into this as I feel good and than I'll only get mad!

Maybe you are right, and maybe they just know:
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and they are simply afraid of being hit!

Wish you a wonderful weekend as its almost near :-)

With friendship,
Anamaria
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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - Egyptian Cleric Says-Valentines Day More Dangerous Then, Aids, Ebola and Cholera
2/13/2009 1:19:35 PM

Oh AnaMaria,

You are so right!  They are afraid and fear is as powerful a tool as LOVE.  Those that promote fear are cowards and fearful of themselves.  They choose some cleric to to think for them and fail to take responsibility for themselves........

The origins of Valentine's Day, like the origins of love itself, are somewhat obscure — a combination of myth, history, destiny, chance and marketing.

Legend has it that a certain third-century priest named Valentine persisted in performing marriage ceremonies despite a ban by the Roman emperor Claudius II (Claudius was persuaded that single men made better soldiers for his army). Thrown into jail, Valentine formed a relationship with his jailor's daughter (some say he cured her blindness) and he signed his last message to her "From your Valentine," a phrase which still gets a lot of mileage. http://www.answers.com/topic/st-valentine-s-day

May Wisdom and the knowledge you gained go with you,



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