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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
2/23/2012 12:42:06 PM
Hi Again Helen,

No need to worry about the points I mentioned that aren't correct. I know that you didn't mean Christians cos we have excellent relations with Christians both in Israel and world wide (especially with American Christians). I'll prepare something and post it either here or send you an email with it. I'll try and do it over the weekend.

In regard to the project I'll speak to my friend who is the Orthodox major partner and see if he has any objections to my writing about the project here. I will say it's a very beautiful project and will make the ties between world Christians and Israel even stronger then they are now.

Shalom,

Peter

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Hello Peter

I've read all your recent posts. Thanks for your comments. I didn't see your posts for a couple of days. I thought you had disappeared :))

I don't mind if you say so, when you think I am wrong about something. I'm not perfect, even if I like everyone to think I am :)). If it is the comment about the Jews not accepting Christianity, remember it does not mean the Jews don't accept the Christians; it is Christianity they have a little trouble with if I understand it correctly. Maybe I am wrong about that. I don't mind if you clarify that or anything else.

This project you are involved with ...can you tell us more about it? Or is it a private thing.

You can always write me to my private email, if you ever wish to do that.

Have a great day ....everyday!!

Helen


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Hi Helen,

Thanks for the Avi Lipkin videos. I've watched many of his videos including the 4 you posted. While I agree with much of what he says there are certain things I disagree with but that doesn't in any way reduce from the importance of his work.

His message is an important one and from what I understand and have read is well accepted by those listening to what he has to say.

There are a few things you added in your comments that aren't really correct but I won't go into them here. Over the past few years I've been involved in a project here in Israel that unfortunately is still in the planning stage due to the extremely high costs of this projects. In any case it's about Evangelical Christians and Israeli counterparts from orthodox Israelis to secular Israelis. The 2 major owners of this project are a very Orthodox Israeli and a secular Israeli. I sincerely hope that it will see the light of day in the next few years.

Shalom,

Peter

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Hi Peter

Here are the videos by Avi Lipkin. He makes some very good points in his talk so listen carefully.

For those who don't know who Avi Lipkin is let me give you a brief description. Avi is a Jew who goes everywhere talking about Islam. Avi Lipkin is not a Christian Jew nor is he a Messianic Jew, both of which have the same meaning.

Avi Lipkin speaks to many, MANY Christian churches. I find this amusing. Here is a Jew telling the Christians to convert Muslims to Christianity. Keep in mind that Jews generally don't accept Christianity. I do think the Jews are getting to love us Christians more and more as time goes on, however, and some Jews are becoming Christian Jews. Jews, please understand that you have the unique position of not having to give up your faith, your Jewishness to be a Christian.

Here's are the Avi Lipkin's videos ......

Part 1 of 4 ..... 11 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrEcfoeQBTE



Part 2 of 4 ...... 11 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspZx187Mdc





Part 3 of 4 ....... 11 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCxRf07CThQ



Part 4 of 4 ....... 11 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD7tEz-99EY



Helen




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RE: HSiG- Muslim Judge Protects Muslim Who Choked Atheist
2/25/2012 3:30:25 PM
Hello Friends,

It's been a few years now that I've been writing and warning about the dangers of Jihad in all its forms from jihadi terrorism, creeping jihad, stealth jihad, litigation jihad etc., all as dangerous as the terrorism jihad cos they slowly encroach on the liberties and freedoms American's have as an inalienable rights.

The fight against shariah law being used in American courts is an additional fight against jihad and so far quite a few states are joining the fight against shariah law. Yet, over the past few years we've read judges rulings that unashamedly admit that they based their rulings on shariah law.

The latest is the ruling by a Muslim judge who unabashedly and wrongly ruled for a Muslim American who attacked an atheist during a Halloween Parade. The police confirmed that not only did the Muslim admit to attacking the atheist he feels he did no wrong. Well the muslim judge seems to feel the same and not only ruled in his favor he gave a rah rah speech in court about the 'joys" of Islam.

In the below article Debbie Schlussel discusses this issue and you can follow the link in her comments to the original article. There are also a few videos well worth watching.

Friends, shariah law isn't in the creeping stage anymore it's past that and is on a roll and all this is happening under your noses or more correctly in your back yard. It's action time and all of us have to do every thing possible that this primitive law system is no longer acceptable in in the United States and shouldn't be allowed in our court systems. Any American judge found basing his rulings on shariah law should be kicked out on his a$$.

Shalom,

Peter

February 24, 2012, - 8:30 am

Muslim Judge Protects Muslim Who Choked Atheist: Story Ripped Off by WorldNutDaily

By Debbie Schlussel

For years, I’ve warned about the dangers of Muslim judges in America. They are not loyal to U.S. law and they use it to protect Muslims and their interests against the rest of us. I’ve cited, for example, the Hezbollah Judge in Dearbornistan Heights, Michigan (and there are many others like him). For the past couple of days, a number of readers have sent me an excellent piece of news coverage by Al Stefanelli of American Atheists, about how a Muslim judge in Pennsylvania dismissed with no basis a case against a Muslim who choked an atheist, and then he lectured the victim about the greatness of Islam, agreeing with the choker and taking a position against the victim’s First Amendment free speech rights. Using a position of authority to promote and side with Muslims over non-Muslims is a form of sharia, Islamic law.

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Say Good-Bye to Civil Rights Under Islamic Judges in America

Sadly, as is usual with the frauds and thieves at WorldNutDaily, the story was completely ripped off–almost word for word–by plagiarist Chelsea Schilling at WND (who “edits” fellow plagiarist Jerome Corsi‘s BS newsletter). Don’t read or forward her link. This woman has no shame and would clearly steal your wallet if she had the chance. Go to Al’s original story to get the details that the fraud Schilling ripped off. (Everything at WND is either fabricated or just stolen, including a lot of my original work which the unethical lowlife Joseph Farah instructed his writers and editors to rob from me.) Here is a video and an excerpt of Al Stefanelli’s original, since-plagiarized work, about how we are losing our civil rights and freedoms to Muslims in positions of power on our own shores:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzGTaEQebfE&feature=player_embedded



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf11F3y9LOE&feature=player_embedded


The Pennsylvania State Director of American Atheists, Inc., Mr. Ernest Perce V., was assaulted by a Muslim while participating in a Halloween parade. Along with a Zombie Pope, Ernest was costumed as Zombie Muhammad. The assault was caught on video, the Muslim man admitted to his crime and charges were filed in what should have been an open-and-shut case. That’s not what happened, though.

The defendant is an immigrant and claims he did not know his actions were illegal, or that it was legal in this country to represent Muhammad in any form. To add insult to injury, he also testified that his 9 year old son was present, and the man said he felt he needed to show his young son that he was willing to fight for his Prophet.

The case went to trial, and as circumstances would dictate, Judge Mark Martin is also a Muslim. What transpired next was surreal. The Judge not only ruled in favor of the defendant, but called Mr. Perce a name and told him that if he were in a Muslim country, he’d be put to death. Judge Martin’s comments included,

“Having had the benefit of having spent over 2 and a half years in predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam. In fact I have a copy of the Koran here and I challenge you sir to show me where it says in the Koran that Mohammad arose and walked among the dead. I think you misinterpreted things. Before you start mocking someone else’s religion you may want to find out a little bit more about it it makes you look like a dufus and Mr. (Defendant) is correct.”

Read the rest of this very disturbing story. And don’t patronize the thieves at WND for their BS robbery of what’s been done

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Iran Military Official: Only Burning White House Can Make Up For Burning Koran
2/26/2012 11:51:53 AM
Hello Friends,

It's interesting the barbaric and savage response of Islam and mannnnnnnnnnnny Muslims to the mistaken burnings of a few korans. The murder of Americans in Afghanistan (more are dying every day) and in other Muslim countries is just another example of the savagery and barbarism of this "religion of peace". All they're looking for is an excuse to go on a rampage and kill, kill, kill and then kill some more.

The truth is they really need no excuse to kill as we all know but given a chance to use an obvious mistake they go on a killing spree and their lunatic rants are heard by all of us and the fraud and great pretender does one of the only things he's good at and apologies over and over again. For each apology more Americans are butchered by supposed allies and recipients of enormous amounts of American aid and military support. Makes perfect sense if you're B Hussein whose muslim agenda is b*itch slapping him yet again and he like the good "Christian" he claims to be turns the other cheek and gets slapped again and again. It looks like they're slapping his butt
cheeks now doesn't it (a real good spanking for the inept fraud and great pretender B Hussein)?

The excuse not to tell the truth about Islam is wearing thin. We are told that telling the truth about Islam will incite them to violence so in essence we are submitting to their threats and allowing them to do what ever they want. Being politically correct about islam is the lie but the B Hussein regime along with other world leaders and their MSM media servants are perpetuating the lie and ignoring the truth and we suffer the consequences.

So let B Hussein apologize as much as he wants but we have to let THEM know (and him) he's not talking for us. Big deal a few korans were mistakenly burned get over it the way civilized people do. In many muslim countries you can't even own a bible and stay alive or out of jail. These barbarians have to learn that you only get respect if you give respect. It's a two way street or at least it should be but according to them there's only one religion, Islam, one prophet, the pedophile Mohammed and only one holy book and it's the hate and murder fest called the koran. Burn it and you're dead is their motto and rather then apologize and cause the deaths of more and more Americans different actions should be taken but with the fraud and great pretender at the helm that will never happen.

And now the lunatic Iranian regime says only burning the White House can make up for burning the koran. Read more on this in the below article.

Shalom,

Peter

Iran military official: Only burning White House can make up for burning Koran


The enemedia continues to package the abysmal failure of Obama's foreign policy as a triumph. The world is on the edge facing world war as Islamic supremacists take over whole countries, something made possible by Obama. Aided and abetted by Obama.

Where are the GOP candidates?

Stop apologizing to these savages and start fighting. As an American, I do not apologize. I withdraw Obama's apology. I withdraw General Allen's apology. I condemn their apology. I do not submit to a culture that suffocates ideas, critical thinking, women, non-Muslims. I do not apologize that the United States of America is "the greatest, the noblest and, in its original founding principles, the only moral country in the history of the world."

It took centuries of intellectual, philosophical development to achieve political freedom. It was a long struggle, stretching from Aristotle to John Locke to the Founding Fathers. The system they established was not based on unlimited majority rule, but on its opposite: on individual rights, which were not to be alienated by majority vote or minority plotting. The individual was not left at the mercy of his neighbors or his leaders: the Constitutional system of checks and balances was scientifically devised to protect him from both. This was the great American achievement—and if concern for the actual welfare of other nations were our present leaders’ motive, this is what we should have been teaching the world. (Ayn Rand)

America does not apologize to savages and cannibals and ghouls.

Commander of Iran's Basij force tell Fars news agency that Muslims worldwide should reject Obama's apology following the burning of the holy Muslim text in a U.S. base in Afghanistan.

The Muslim world should not accept an apology issued by U.S. President Barack Obama over the burning of Korans in an American base in Afghanistan, a top Iranian military commander said on Saturday, adding that nothing short of "burning the White House can relieve the wound of us."

Obama's Thursday apology in a letter to Afghan President Hamid Karzai sought to quell spiraling furor among Afghans, who have been protesting the act for five straight days, after Afghan workers found charred copies of the Muslim holy book on a military base near Kabul.

According to White House spokesperson Jay Carney, while the apology was "wholly appropriate given the sensitivities" about treatment of the Koran, he said Obama's primary concern was "the safety of American men and women in Afghanistan, of our military and civilian personnel there."

Responding to Obama's apology on Saturday, the commander of Iran's Basij force Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Naqd claimed that the holy book was burned by U.S. forces over the heavy slap it has been given by Islam," urging Muslims worldwide to reject the American apology.

"Nothing but burning the White House can relieve the wound of us, the Muslims, caused by the Burning of Quran in the US," he said adding: "Their apology can be accepted only by hanging their commanders; hanging their commanders means an apology," he was quoted by the semi-official Fars news agency as saying.

Naqd's comments came after, earlier Saturday, a gunman killed two American military advisers inside a heavily guarded government building in the heart of Kabul.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was retaliation for the Koran burnings, and the NATO commander recalled all international military personnel working in Afghan ministries in the capital.

U.S.¬ officials said the assailant remained at large and a manhunt was under way.

At least 28 people have been killed and hundreds wounded since Tuesday, when it first emerged that Qurans and other religious materials had been thrown into a fire
pit used to burn garbage at Bagram Air Field, a large U.S.¬ base north of Kabul.

Among those dead were two U.S. ¬soldiers who were killed Thursday by one of their Afghan counterparts while a riot raged outside their base in the eastern province of Nangarhar.


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RE: HSIG- More On B Hussein's Infamous Apologies
2/26/2012 12:13:07 PM
Hello Friends,

Here are a few more articles about the "apologies" and the muslim's reaction to the mistaken burning of a few korans. One thing to remember is that these barbarians who kill in the name of the big mo and his hate filled and murderous koran are burning churches throughout the muslim world, butchering Christians, forcing Christians to convert, killing converts to Christianity and so much more. These vicious savages have the audacity to go on a murdering rampage cos a few korans are burned by mistake.

How does that compare to the discrimination of Christians and members of other religions in their countries? But I guess their supremacist ideology says you can't burn a koran and get away with it but we'll burn and murder as many Christians as we want and you won't dare condemn us for it and yes we will get away with it. Guess what??? So far they're right.

Shalom,

Peter


More American Apologies, 2 Americans ExecutedUS Colonel and Major killed in highly secured compound by Afghan Policeman over Quran burning, shot in head execution style


Stop apologizing and start carpet bombing. Defeat jihad. What's it going to take?

Daily Mail Feb 25th 2012:
All American and international advisers today deserted Afghan government buildings after two senior US officers were murdered in their office at the interior ministry in Kabul.

The unnamed colonel and major were reportedly shot in the head by an Afghan - thought to be a police officer - with the security clearance necessary to access their secure area the heart of the Afghan government.

We apologize, they kill.

We apologize, they kill.

Obama apologizes, they burn him in effigy.

Brilliant, Obama, brillliant. And the band plays on.

US Colonel and Major killed in highly secured compound by Afghany Policeman over Quran burning Both shot in head execution style Wall Street Journal

Two Americans shot dead inside Afghan Interior Ministry

The Globe and Mail Amir Shah and Rahim Faiez KABUL— The Associated Pres, February 25, 2012

A gunman killed two American advisers inside a heavily guarded government compound in Kabul Saturday, officials said, as protests against the burning of copies of the Muslim holy book roiled the country for a fifth day.

U.S. officials said the assailant remained at large as neither an apology from President Barack Obama nor gunfire from Afghan police could quench public outrage over what NATO insisted was an inadvertent desecration of the Koran.

NATO personnel are being recalled from Afghan ministries following the attack.

General John Allen says staff are being recalled “for obvious force protection reasons.” He says NATO is investigating Saturday's shooting and will pursue all leads to find the person responsible for the attack.

Two Afghan officials said the ministry shooting did not involve any Afghans. They spoke anonymously to discuss a NATO incident. One of the officials noted that the shooting occurred inside a secure room at the ministry that Afghan staff do not have access to.

NATO confirmed that two service members were killed, but spokesman Lt. Col Jimmie Cummings said “initial reports say it was not a Western shooter.” He declined to provide further information.

A U.S. official in Washington confirmed that the two killed were American. The official spoke anonymously to discuss information that had not been publicly released.

“The assailant is unknown, and an aggressive search is under way to determine who is responsible,” Pentagon press secretary George Little said.

NATO forces have advisers embedded in many Afghan ministries, both as trainers and to help manage the transition to Afghan control and foreign forces prepare to withdraw by the end of 2014. The Afghan Interior Ministry oversees all of the country's police, so has numerous NATO advisers.

Saturday's attack comes as tensions between the Afghans and the Americans are high following the burning of copies of the Muslim holy book at a U.S. base that sparked days of deadly protests

In a statement, Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said the gunman was an insurgent named Abdul Rahman. He said an accomplice inside the ministry helped him get inside the compound. He said the killings were a planned response to the Qur'an burnings.

“After the attack, Rahman informed us by telephone that he was able to kill four high-ranking American advisers,” Mujahid said. The Taliban frequently exaggerate casualty claims.

At least 25 people have been killed and hundreds wounded since Tuesday, when it first emerged that Qurans and other religious materials had been thrown into a fire pit used to burn garbage at Bagram Air Field, a large U.S. base north of Kabul.

Among those dead were two U.S. soldiers who were killed by one of their Afghan counterparts while a riot raged outside their base.

President Barack Obama and other U.S. officials apologized and said the burning of Qurans was a terrible mistake, but the incident has sent thousands to the streets in this deeply religious country.

In Kunduz, the capital of Kunduz province in northeast Afghanistan, more than 1,000 protesters demonstrated. At first they were peaceful, but as the protest continued they began throwing stones at government buildings and a U.N. office, said Sarwer Hussaini, a spokesman for the provincial police. He said the police were firing into the air to try to disperse the crowd.

Dr. Saad Mukhtar, health department director in Kunduz, said at least three protesters died and 50 others were injured during the melee.

The U.N. confirmed in a statement that its Kunduz compound was attacked, but said all its staff in Kunduz and in the country were unhurt and accounted for. The statement thanked Afghan security forces for their quick response to the assault.

OIC Caliphate Demands Swift Punishment for Infidels Who Burned Quran

The OIC represents 56 countries plus the Palestinian Authority. It claims also to represent Muslim immigrants — the “Diaspora” — in Europe, the Americas, Africa, and Asia. It is pan-Islamic: It seeks to unify and lead the world’s 1.3 billion Muslims. In a manual first published in 2001, “Strategy of Islamic Cultural Action in the West,” the OIC asserts that “Muslim immigrant communities in Europe are part of the Islamic nation.”

The OIC, Bat Ye'or argues, is nothing less than a “would-be, universal caliphate.” It might look different from the caliphates of the Ottomans, Fatimids, and Abbasids. It might resemble, instead, a thoroughly modern trans-national bureaucracy. But, already, the OIC exercises significant power through the United Nations, and through the European Union, which has been eager to accommodate the OIC while simultaneously endowing the U.N. with increasing authority for global governance. Among the other organizations that Ye’or says are doing the OIC’s bidding are the U.N. Alliance of Civilizations, the U.N. Commission on Human Rights, and the European Parliamentary Association for Euro-Arab Cooperation (PAEAC).

In the eyes of OIC officials, no problem in the contemporary world is more urgent than “Islamophobia,” which it calls “a crime against humanity” that the U.N. and the EU must officially outlaw. Even discussing why so much terrorism is carried out in the name of Islam is to be forbidden. The OIC insists, too, that international bodies ban “defamation of religion,” by which it means criticism of anything Islamic. Defamation of Judaism, Christianity, Bahai, Hinduism, and even heterodox Muslim sects such as the Ahmadiyya is common within the borders of many OIC countries, a fact the OIC refuses to acknowledge. (more here)

OIC Condemns Quran Burning by US Troops in Afghanistan

TEHRAN (FNA)- Secretary-General of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu deplored the burning of the Holy Quran by the US forces in Afghanistan, and called for swift action to punish those responsible for the provocative act.

In a statement on Thursday, Ihsanoglu described the incident as a "deplorable act of incitement", and said that the act runs "contrary to the common efforts of the OIC and that of the international community …to combat intolerance, and incitement to hatred based on religion and belief."

The statement also called on "the concerned authorities to take swift and appropriate disciplinary action against those responsible."

Also on Thursday, US President Barack Obama sent a letter to his Afghan counterpart, apologizing for the acts of desecration.

The developments came as anti-US demonstrations are underway across Afghanistan over the burning of the Holy Quran at the US Airbase.

Media reports said that at least twenty Afghans have been killed since the beginning of protests on Tuesday.

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RE: HSIG- More On B Hussein's Infamous Apologies
2/26/2012 6:31:51 PM

Hello Peter

Have you heard this woman? She burns the Koran in the second video :)) How long do you think she will live?

I know her language will not offend you, Peter, but I wish to warn others who might watch this that Ann uses some swear words but if I remember correctly she does not use the 'f' word nor does she take the Lord's name in vain. This is not a good video to watch while children are within earshot.

Helen



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