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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
2/9/2009 2:39:55 AM
I quote

Satan has got a good foot hold into every country and
especially Christian countries, while the majority have been
sleeping and far too trusting.

Belief, today is
category under question.
I'll touch, a burlesque, a charade I've seen few weeks ago.Funeral of Russian colonel KGB Patriarch, with two former communist bastards, Putin & Medvedev, making sign of cross bigger then themselves, sending his fellow to father Lenin hunting places.

You maybe ask why I touch this?
Because they are promoters of idea: find permanent enemies outside, to can keep tributary your own people.

These acts of Hamas & Hesbolah, has no touch with religion, confession or such stuff.
You can qualify just like acts against life, and nothing more.

You see these shabby phrases, like Zionist, Zionist plotting in 21st century? :)

They have their brothers, Arabs ten times more rich then any so named zionist. :)

The core of problem is, their own people want to be like others (honest, hard working with good established rules in life). This mean lose of power.
Theory of permanent enemy is well known.Academic level study.
They all have touch with belief, like prostitute with honesty.
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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - PRESIDENT WITHDRAWS CHARGES AGAINST "USS COLE" MASTERMIND
2/9/2009 2:53:46 AM
Hi Peter

Al Fatah has in Tripoli, main square, a piece of land, which is their own territory.
Flag, sentinels.
My first thought was, this is Embassy, but I've seen armed people, with a uniform of Fatah. Also in Tunis.
They performed also terrorist assaults (70-ies). After that they become good guys, like Putin from KGB become good Christian. :)

Anyhow long time ago, they left terrorism like solution of solving problems.

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - Hamas Incites Kids On Children's TV
2/9/2009 7:02:51 AM

Hello Friends,

Save, Fatah never totally ceased being a terrorist organization and many of the ceasefires and agreements were broken by their actions. The leader of the PLO Yasser Arrafat  finally agreed to enter into peace talks with Israel and this was beneficial to him both politically and financially. We all know of the hundreds of millions of $ secreted away in his private accounts (other high ranking members benefited from this too) that his widow controls today.

Yet, they are the only Palestinian group that takes part in the peace talks. Hamas wants no part of it and does their best to torpedo any headway made between us by their actions.

Fatah hid in Tripoli, Tunisia, Lebanon and other Arab countries during the extreme terrorist stage of their operations.

Shalom,

Peter

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - PRESIDENT WITHDRAWS CHARGES AGAINST "USS COLE" MASTERMIND
2/9/2009 8:34:59 AM


Thank you, Peter!

That clears up the Fatah question somewhat.  So why is Hamas against them?    I have a friend who is a Sufi Muslim and she says that the Sufis are not accepted by the Shiites and Sunis.  She says in some countries, they would be killed if they did not adopt the more militant type of  Islam.

On a different note....

It may interest you to know that I have a tree planted somewhere in Israel.  I did not plant it myself.  It was done in the mid 70's through a church that I was attending.  I paid to have one tree planted; it was all I could afford at the time.  My name is supposed to be on my tree.  I have no idea where it is.  I wish I could come and see it but the pastor who, with some from the church, went to Israel to plant these trees is now passed away.


And to Sava....

I know more than you think I do about the core of Islamic teaching.  For example, you have not taught me  one thing I did not know.  I may even know more about it than you do.  Have you read each one of my posts carefully?   I have not written in this forum all that I know about it because writing it all into one email would make the email far too long.  If I write it all in a number of shorter emails someone, like yourself, is sure to come along and read just one of those emails and make judgement of my knowledge on that one email.  Furthermore, I do not have the time to go into the depth that I could. 

You said....
That why you must consider: there is no peace.
People of Israel is in continuous danger.
This is not Hamas or other organization. This is teaching. Hamas is small baby.
After Israel is our turn.Smiley


I know what the teaching is.   But then why don't all Muslims fight and kill and in all countries?  Most of the Muslims do not fight and kill.  Only about 10% are doing as this teaching says.

Does that mean Israel and the world should just lay down and die because no matter what we do, the Muslims will get us?  I don't think so.  What we need is more guts like Israel has and we need it now more than ever.  There have been Muslim uprisings in past history that were defeated and which kept them in line for long periods of time ..many years.  If we don't have what it takes to quelch the Muslims then we should support Israel with all our might and encourage Israel to wipe out the extremists like Hamas and Hesbollah and Iran and whoever else that would do Israel, and the rest of the world, harm.  We can do this if we don't let down our resolve.  And it would put an end to the extremists' fighting for once and for all (at least for a long time until they figured out regroup) because most of them would be dead, thankfully.

But there are those Christians who want this unrest and fighting because in their mind it brings us closer to when Christ comes to gather up the Christians and to rule the world after the 7-year tribulation.  God doesn't need us to help Him bring His prophecies to past.  If He wants it to happen now it will happen no matter what we do.  At any rate, Israel wins in the end  ...or should I say, "God wins in the end." because much of these end-time wars are wars between bad principalities and Jesus and the angels.

And to Amanda....

I know exactly what you mean about "
'freedom of choice' which can play havoc when these minorities start to picket and have the loudest voices to start making their practices part of the system or even take over."  I see this same thing happening here in Canada.  People from poorer nations come here to enjoy the country that we made in such a way that the whole world wants to come here and live.  The reason they came is because they liked it better than their own country or they would not have come, right?  But then what is the first thing they do?  They try to change it to their customs and their country's ways which obviously did not work over there but they want it here.  And our liberal governments bow down to this nonsense.  Canada in many ways is becoming a ruined nation.  I don't even mind if people want to come here as long as they don't try to change what we've made.  It is not up to me to blend in unless I am moving to their country.  I don't even mind making some concessions but they don't want to change; they expect us to change for them.  It's all about them.

As far as Muslims are concerned, if it were up to me, none would be allowed in this country.  NONE!  It is like letting people in from a country which is having a plague.  It is too dangerous.  People say "What about the good Muslims?  Would you keep them out?"
My reply is, "The immigration people can't know what is in the heart of these people.  Do you know what is in their heart?  Many of these so-called moderate peace-loving Muslims are secretly glad when they see people turning to Islam even if it is out of fear of the Muslims themselves.  It is their desire that the whole world becomes Muslim.  In that way, they are no different. How many of them are supporting the extremists morally and financially?  Do you know?"  Of course, they don't have an answer for that.

There are a few Muslims who are endangering their own lives in an effort to try to change Islamic views and understanding of the Islam religion and to stop the killing.  Those I admire very much.

Enough for today....

God bless everyone here.  Have a great and thankful day!

Helen





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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - PRESIDENT WITHDRAWS CHARGES AGAINST "USS COLE" MASTERMIND
2/9/2009 1:34:51 PM
Thank you Helen

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"But there are those Christians who want this unrest and fighting because in their mind it brings us closer to when Christ comes to gather up the Christians and to rule the world after the 7-year tribulation.  God doesn't need us to help Him bring His prophecies to past.  If He wants it to happen now it will happen no matter what we do.  At any rate, Israel wins in the end  ...or should I say, "God wins in the end." because much of these end-time wars are wars between bad principalities and Jesus and the angels."

My intention wasn't to teach you Helen. I just don't know how much you know. Above statement is half true.
They want unrest because of profit. Many of them don't know who Jesus is, or haven't read a line from Gospel, but know very good about Jew's plotting, from some irrelevant books, or irrelevant bad intended articles.

The biggest spoil of Arabic welt is done between West Europe circles, and Arabs. In west you can see together Al Fayeds (plural) and Osama soldiers.
In the middle are Western companies. There is not nose of Jew. Not a finger. That's the reason they need this unrest fighting.

In Libya, you don't have a breath of Jew, but Khadafi has around 600 billions euro in Europe. You think from that money, no one euro go to Hamas brothers?

@Peter

You ask why not in another countries? They tried with Serbians this. Claim Serbian land as theirs.
You know how they finish.

One more question: who's children are the one taken as shields?
If they don't like their own children, why should another one like? Target is target.



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