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Re: Human Shields In Gaza -
2/8/2009 4:23:02 AM
Hi Peter
Situation of your country is not enviable.

I quote:


Another problem is the moderate Islamist. There are very few that speak out against the interpretations of the extremists and terrorist organizations. We are either witnessing their silence as capitulation whether out of fear or silent agreement with their stated goals of world domination and death to nonbelievers.


If you go between Islamic people, you see more and more young, with pants over the ankle. Imitating prophet, or how he used to wear clothes.
They take the liberty to attack their own people, and indict them, they are not good muslims. More and more so named Vehabits(extreme Islam). (Even in my country)

There is no doubt, you'd be the first target, in case they can operate with nuclear weapon. They'll do this without hesitation. At the smallest chance.

What you point here, I know very good, but tragedy is: westerns have no idea about.

Th funny thing (if is funny) Israel is indicted, because defend themselves.
Out of mind.

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - ISLAM IN OUR AMERICAN SCHOOLS
2/8/2009 7:22:51 AM
Hello Peter,

In answer to your question:
You know I sometimes wonder if many understand and realize the imminent danger the world is facing?

I agree with you, people seem to be so blissfully ignorant
about what is happening here in their own States and so
many have no idea where other countries are located on
the atlas.  Then there are the ones who have an idea but
will think they are all part and parcel of one country.

The media definitely does not help with their reportings of
true accounts and the news presenters seem to be so
'flippant' how they present the news, and saying such inane
stuff or trying to pass a joke when they go to a reporter
outside the station in the streets.

I learned from bible predictions one of the authors was Barry
Smith
of New Zealand whom has since died.  His warning
books were fascinating as well as kinda scary as events that he had predicted started to unfold and I would read it in the newspaper, hear the news or some other way. 

There was a lot of early history and all the branches (wheels within wheels - skulduggery) of various companies, renowned people, organizations had come together to form another well known organization.   e.g. occultic beginnings and where they
have filtrated into our everyday companies that one would
think is harmless but in actual fact is not.

Satan has managed to place his stamp on a large percentage
of our daily living outside and inside our homes as it is filtered
through.


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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
2/8/2009 8:22:24 AM



Hello Peter

Can you please tell me who are the Fatah (I am not sure of spelling) that Shimon Peres, President of Israel, at the Devos Summit 2009 was talking about?  I still have much to learn.

Like Sava, I do not envy the Israelis plight but I also know this nightmare is at our own doors all over the world and I am aware of the danger that is everywhere.  To me it looks like a matter of not 'if' but 'when'.  I hope I am wrong.  I have learned much from the videos by Ex-Muslims on GodTube.com  and YouTube.com

To make matters worse in Canada and the USA (I cannot speak for other countries), we have this stupid ideology of 'political correctness' which causes politicians and groups to want to accommodate Islam.  I can only guess at their motives which I believe are to appease the Muslims and cow-tow to them.  They seem to have the idea that they will find favor in the Muslims eyes if they lick their boots.  Nothing could be further from the truth.   The only thing that might save their skin is if they convert to Islam.  Even then, they are not safe because Muslims have been known to often kill their own.  Like I said before ...these extremists are demon-possessed.   If I could talk to the politicians, I would tell them it is a waste to time and effort.  The only thing that seems to sway Muslims' thinking is their Qu'ran, the book which teaches them even how to kill.  I do not agree that they are misinterpreting the Qu'ran because it has direct commands to kill.  The Muslims also have other books that they follow such as the Hadith which is a compilation of the sayings by Mohammad.  Public opinion only matters to them when they can sway it to make Israel look like the 'killer' etc.

And yes, Peter, I think you are right that the USA and the world will rue the day they elected Obama as President and soon.  I've said it long before he was elected and if I have to eat my words, I will be happy to do it.

If anyone wants to check out what some Palestinians, some Egyptians and others are saying, go to >  >  >
www.godtube.com    ..and type Muslim in the Search box.  Then start listening.  The many videos are not just by Ex-Muslims but some are by current Muslims and even some from Al-Jezeera.  [It seems the godtube name has been changed to 'tangle.com' but the godtube link still works.

There is a series of videos on youtube.com by Tawfik Hamid, an Egyptian Muslim who has not converted to another faith but who is trying to show other Muslims that the extremists are wrong.  This man has some very interesting things to say.  If you only have time to listen to one of these videos, pick #5....  Go to >  >  >
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aPetV-3auo&feature=related 

Another video with Tawfik Hamid worth watching....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALoyvS8VZFA
  
We need to support Tawfik Hamid and others like him.  Unfortunately there are not many of these types of Muslims around.  We need to support people like Brigitte Gabriel (Google her name), too.

Walid Shoebat, a Palestinian and Ex-Muslim converted to Christianity and who now lives in the USA, is another interesting man to listen to and there are others.

Walid Shoebat and others believe that what Israel is now doing to Hamas is the right thing to do as it is the only 'language' that Hamas understands.  It is unfortunate that so many innocents are killed but it seems Hamas doesn't care about its people lives.

I am sorry if I am repeating myself sometimes but isn't that what is necessary to get the word out and get it to stick?

Helen

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
2/8/2009 12:11:54 PM
Hello Helen,

I could not agree with you more
Thank you for sharing
your insights and the video links which I will watch and listen to, probably starting with the 5th one you recommend.

Even my little New Zealand I grew up is not left out from
Muslim customs.  Several years before I left NZ our meat
export (NZ is mainly sheep and cattle) their were Muslims
who came over to teach how sheep were to be bred and
handled if NZ wanted to export our meat
.
The ram lambs were not to be castrated nor have their
tails docked (cut off)
They were live exported on ships and penned up a certain way. 

At the Meat Works there was some particular way they
wanted done there too, but cannot quite recall what it was.
I do recall very clearly that several friends, family and I had
talked about this and found it odd and silly, but had not
really realize back then, just how they have been infiltrating our respective customs and cultures with theirs.
We knew Muslim was very different religion to the majority
of NZ Christian views but did not pose them a threat living
on the other side of the world from us.

Well, we are seeing first hand how our respective ignorance and Governments, have let in the enemy because they wanted to be 'politically correct'.

I do believe there have been parties of people all through
history that have knowingly helped (deliberately, are not
of Christian thought, habit.. and are in Satan's court so
against anything good) to overthrow various laws to
protect, brought in new laws to restrict which help with
their cause.  This has been done by ordinary people
picketing their cause up to higher people in the public eye
and Senates etc.
It has been a plan put in place from Satan and he has
been extremely diligent to get it done.

Now, we have to get out and let the world know that
we know what the enemy is doing and 'shine the light
into the darkness'.  Already I must be doing something
good because I have had members on my friends list
who have decided I am not worthy of being their friend
anymore and have taken me off or blocked me!! *grin*


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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
2/8/2009 12:46:36 PM


Hi Amanda

Thank you for your comments. 

You will find a lot of good videos on godtube.com or
tangle.com as it is now called.  Most of the things I
have learned about Islam is from men and women
who used to be Muslims or still are and many of
them are on godtube.

It's too bad about your friends not wanting to hear
you out.  That happens to me once in a while but I
am surprised that is not too often because I can be
rather outspoken sometimes.   I think I have a lot
of Christians on my list.  Not very many reply to my
emails.  I have over 200 on my list and I can't
remember where most of them came from.  We are
all involved in business opportunities, too.

I know that once you start watch some of the videos,
it will keep you busy for a long time.

God bless you and yours

Let's have a thankful day!  ....everyday!

Helen
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