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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - PRESIDENT WITHDRAWS CHARGES AGAINST "USS COLE" MASTERMIND
2/8/2009 3:05:14 PM

Hello Friends,

Here we are discussing the ramifications of international terrorism and  one of the major decisions of  President B. Hussein Obama was to instruct the Department of Defense to release the terrorist that was the "brains" behind the attack on the "USS Cole" in 2000. My question is what sort of signal is he sending to the terrorists with this irresponsible action? In their shoes I'd say  let's do our thing cos we have a friend in the White House!

He invited family members of the victims of the 9/11 attack and the Cole and one mother refused the invitation. She was interviewed on Fox TV and here is what she had to say (she voted for Obama and in the interview she says she made a mistake in doing so).

Shalom,

Peter

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President Hussein is going to release the Cole mastermind after he puts on a disgusting show of bogus Americanism by inviting the 9/11 families to the White House. How cynical. I hope they refuse. They cannot help but see he is the principal architect of America's next 9/11.

President Obama Likely to Order Military Commission Charges Dropped Against Terrorist Suspect Al-Nashiri ABC Jake Tapper

ABC News has learned that on Friday, President Obama will likely order the Department of Defense's Military Commission to withdraw charges against terrorist suspect Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The charges may later be reinstated in a military commission or pursued in a civilian court. Al-Nashiri will remain in custody.

The announcement will not be made until after President Obama meets with the families of victims of terrorist attacks on 9/11 and on the U.S.S. Cole, where he will assure them that this step is not being done to be lenient towards al-Nashiri. The move is being done to stop the continued prosecution of al-Nashiri in a court system that his administration may ultimately find illegitimate, not for any other reason, sources told ABC News.

President Obama has expressed concern about whether the military commissions set up by the Bush administration are the proper way to go forward in pursuing charges against the U.S. detainees, and on January 22 he asked all the judges supervising the trials of detainees for a continuance of 120 days, so a team of administration officials could review the best way forward.

In almost the cases, that continuance request was granted. But last week the judge supervising the al-Nashiri trial -- Army Col. James L. Pohl, the chief judge at the Guantanamo Bay war crimes court -- said he would not heed President Obama's request for a 120-day continuance, or delay, in prosecutions of terrorism suspects. Pohl called the president's request "not reasonable" and not "in the interests of justice."

The arraignment of al-Nashiri is scheduled for Monday, February 9.

Al-Nashiri has been identified as the former Persian Gulf Operations Chief for al Qaeda and the mastermind of the attack on the U.S.S. Cole. In March 2007 he testified in military court  that he only confessed to certain crimes because he has been tortured for the previous five years.

Asked for reaction to the news, Commander Kirk Lippold (Ret.), former Commander aboard the U.S.S. Cole when it was bombed on October 12, 2000, told ABC News that "I am concerned about the President considering dropping the charges because it may be indicative that the president does not intend to follow the military commissions process which has undergone extensive legal and legislative review."

"For some reason the administration says what's been expressed through the legislature is not sufficient," Lippold said of the military commissions. "They need to allow the process to go forward."

The 26-year Navy veteran said he found the decision to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay "disappointing," but he seemed willing to hear the president out.

"I'm interested in hearing what his long-term plan is on how he's going to deal with the detainees because he hasn't articulated that," he said. "He may have a clear-cut path that may massage some of the concerns that I know many of the families have right now."

In a way, the President tied his administration's own hands, requiring his Secretary of Defense to drop the charges. The executive order President Obama signed on closing the Guantanamo Detention Facilities states that "all proceedings" in the US Military Commissions must be "halted": (more)

UPDATE: R-E-A-D   I-T  A-L-L

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
2/8/2009 7:03:42 PM
@Amanda @Helen

Hi
It is obvious you are not understanding the core of Islamic teach.
Their Messiah is the last one. OK? He transmitted the message of God.
All mankind must be Muslims. That why Jihad, The Holly War.
In two ways: by Good Faith, or by Knife.

All stories, about love, good will, and other nice things you can hear, are valuable only for Muslims and not for other confession.

I'll bore you with my example:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/libyanlawonaforeignleg/

If I'd be Muslim there would be all correctness. Because I'm Christian, they do not grant, any obligation written in contract.

Lets go on: Holly War is imposed by extreme Muslim to their own people.
If peaceful Muslim take any action against extremist, they are sentenced to death as betray of Allah.

I would like somebody in matter to answer me.

Regarding their own relation with Jews, also in Holly Quran is written, that Allah, stopped to consider Jews as elected nation, and through Mohamed gave the last message message of Muslim belief.

That why you must consider: there is no peace.
People of Israel is in continuous danger.
This is not Hamas or other organization. This is teaching. Hamas is small baby.
After Israel is our turn. :)

That why let democracy and such false play.
There is one solution, also from Holly Quran, to let them inside themseves.
Let them eat each other.
To cruel?

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
2/8/2009 7:59:27 PM
Hello Bugarski,
Yes I do understand, however I was speaking on slightly
different angle.

I understand the radical Muslims (occult religion - Satan
ruled,  to Christian and Jews) who will stop at nothing to destroy everyone whom is their way and try and make everyone into a Muslim this religion is the fastest growing religion in the world now as it is speeding through like a run away train.

I was giving incidences that Muslims and their customs
had filtered into New Zealand (where I was born and raised
before coming to the States) in regards to our sheep
export that at the time looked innocent enough to the
majority of citizens. Our respective Governments have
made a lot of bad choices and let a lot of occultic religions
in because of 'freedom of choice' which can play havoc
when these minorities start to picket and have the loudest
voices to start making their practices part of the system
or even take over.

Satan has got a good foot hold into every country and
especially Christian countries, while the majority have been
sleeping and far too trusting.


I also made mention that not only
Muslims and
occultic religious practices do we have to worry about that have
been stealthily brought into our culture.  There have been
and still are high up people in power and authority that have and do lots of wheeling and dealing behind the scenes with
our enemies of blatant satanic countries, organizations,
companies and blended them into our ordinary everyday
commodities we use. - Far too many to list.

Amanda


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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - PRESIDENT WITHDRAWS CHARGES AGAINST "USS COLE" MASTERMIND
2/8/2009 11:18:21 PM

Hello Friends,

Helen, Fatah is the militant arm of the PLO (started by Yasser Arrafat). The peace talks between Israel started with Arrafat and is now being carried by hi successor Abbas. There is extreme conflict between the Hamas and Fatah and in the Gaza Strip Hamas won and killed and imprisoned many of the Fatah living there.

Shalom,

Peter

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza - Hamas Incites Kids On Children's TV
2/8/2009 11:41:30 PM

Hello Friends,

We've already seen many videos showing the hate and brainwashing tactics of Hamas with their children. Here is yet another example of their indoctrination techniques.

Shalom,

Peter

Today is Tu B'Shvat, the New Year of the Trees. Israeli kids are all out planting trees. The holiday is one of healing and hope for the future.I'm taking the occasion, however, to peek at how Palestinian kids are being educated.

Above: On TV, from his hospital bed the dying bunny speaks his last words to Saraa his little friend (as translated by MEMRI):

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"Saraa, my will is that you tell our beloved children never to forget Jerusalem, Saraa. You must pass this legacy on to our beloved children. They must never forget Jerusalem, Al-Aqsa, the prisoners, or the refugees.

"Remind them, Saraa, that we have a land to which we must return, by means of the steadfastness of the resistance and the mujahideen, by means of the steadfastness of knowledge and the fear of God. Tell them that Assud died as a hero, as a martyr. Tell them that Assud died a martyr's death, Saraa."

"We should teach our children that we have a land to which we must return: Jaffa, Acre, Haifa, and Tel Aviv. We will return to all these cities, Allah willing.

"Saraa, I implore you... I entrust you with the legacy of protecting Jerusalem, the Al-Aqsa Mosque, and the blessed land of Palestine. Listen to me, Saraa: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and the Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah."

Assud dies.

Saraa: Assud... Assud... No, Assud... Don't die, Assud...

"Victory is near. The soldiers of the Pioneers of Tomorrow will grow up. Allah willing, we will follow the same path, the path of the scholars, the path of the authors, the path of the learned and the intellectuals. Oh Palestine, we will liberate your soil, Allah willing. We will liberate it from the filth of the Zionists. We will purify it with the soldiers of the Pioneers of Tomorrow."

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