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Amanda Martin-Shaver

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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
11/7/2011 6:38:47 AM
Hello Peter,

I find this Satanic Stealth Global Elite far more dangerous to humanity than the Muslims whom are immigrating around the world because I can see then and know what they are about and not many hold high power positions.

The Elite already has killed millions if not billions over the centuries and they have already infiltrated all high places of power within the Govt and Corporations as well as they have all the money, technology, all the securities of police, home land security, secret service, military etc. at their disposal to use against us.

For centuries this Global Elite have been secretly plotting and scheming to take over the world and reduce the population from 9 billion I heard last week down to a 'sustainable' number of 500,000 (500 million) so they can bring in their New World Order.
They have had a long time practice at killing multitudes with starvation's, global wars, cancers ...due to poisons in our water, air and foods, minds control, plastics that break down into the contents they hold etc etc we have become sicker with vast amounts of new illnesses than we have ever seen in our lives.

I call these atrocities to humanity satanic because it has nothing to do with religion and this is why I say we are in a 'spiritual war', because I believe only God can get us out of this lethally dangerous place we are all in. I do not see how we can, when they have Satan (negative) on their side because I cannot ever believe that humans would or ever could be this evil to each other without the exact opposite of God's love (positive) and God cannot divide Himself or He would be a liar and I know this is not true.

I copied and pasted one of such Illuminati writings they have placed at different public venues. Another one is at the Hoover Dam.

Amanda
What Does The Message Of The Georgia Guidestones Mean?
In Georgia stands a huge granite monument which, (engraved in eight different languages) is 10 Guides, or commandments for future civilizations. The monument is referred to as The Georgia Guidestones, or the American Stonehenge.
World Population Reduced To 500 Million.

The origin of this strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or men, who commissioned its construction. All that is known for certain is that in June 1979, a well-dressed, articulate stranger visited the office of the Elberton Granite Finishing Company and announced that he wanted to build an edifice to transmit a message to mankind. He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, almost two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented. Several things are apparent. The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields: (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government, (2) Population and reproduction control, (3) The environment and man’s relationship to nature, and (4) Spirituality.

In the public library in Elberton exists a book written by the man who called himself R.C. Christian.The monument he commissioned had been erected in recognition of Thomas Paine and the occult philosophy he espoused. Indeed, the Georgia Guidestones are used for occult ceremonies and mystic celebrations to this very day. Tragically, only one religious leader in the area has had the courage to speak out against the American Stonehenge, and he has recently relocated his ministry.


THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of NINE-TENTHS of the world’s people.

“Sustainable Development”

The message of the American Stonehenge also fore-shadowes the current drive for “Sustainable Development”. Any time you hear the phrase “Sustainable Development” used, you should substitute the term “socialism” to be able to understand what is intended.Read the full text of the Earth Charter which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong,and in that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world government, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon, was recently quoted as referring to the American Stonehenge, saying:

“I want people to know about the stones … We’re headed toward a world where we might blow ourselves up and maybe the globe will not exist … it’s a nice time to reaffirm ourselves, knowing all the beautiful things that are in this country and the Georgia Stones symbolize that. “

What is the true significance of the American Stonehenge, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there is a covert group intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

Certainly the group that commissioned the Georgia Guidestones is one of many similar groups working together toward a New World Order, a new world economic system, and a new world spirituality. Behind those groups, however, are dark spiritual forces. Without understanding the nature of those dark forces it is impossible to understand the unfolding of world events.

The fact that most Americans have never heard of the Georgia Guidestones or their message to humanity reflects the degree of control that exists today over what the American people think. You ignore that message at your peril.

The hole that you see in the stone was drilled in the Center Stone so that the North Star could be visualized through it at any moment. This was one of several requirements stipulated by R.C.Christian for the building of the American Stonehenge and reflects his obsession with the alignment of the stars, the sun, and the moon. Occultists often worship the alignment and movement of heavenly bodies as part of their religious ceremonies.


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Hi Amanda,

Each of us will define our part in the war against the Elites and the Muslim agenda to conquer the world and once again rule through the Caliphate.

For you it's a spiritual war and for me it's a war against a religion that is both spiritual for the members but also a political system and their Koran dictates everything they do during every minute of their lives. When they have a book based on the founder of their religion's words who was a murderer, pedophile, calls for the killing of all infidels and so much more and he is the one the "believers" want to emulate then you have a 1,500,000,000 people who are a potential danger to us all and the western way of life and culture. We are seeing the outcome of this in Europe and now in the USA and Canada as well.

The problem I have with your above explanation is that in a way it only includes the Judeo/Christian belief structures but the dangers of radical Jihadi Muslims is against members of all religions and they all are in danger and under attack.

We need everybody to fight against this agenda of theirs for world domination and not only members of certain religions. This affects the whole world and the Judeo/Christian beliefs are only part of it all.

Shalom,

Peter

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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
11/7/2011 12:20:12 PM
Hi Amanda,

We at least agree on one thing that the Elites and the Muslims with their plan for a global domination with Islam as the one true Religion is evil. As I said we can all call it what we wish and we are in agreement on that.

Check your history and you'll find that Islam has been responsible for the death of hundreds of millions over the centuries and yet again the Elites are the new kids on the block.

I'll not relate to the Georgia Guidestones since again not enough is known about the originators of this "monument". I've read about it in the past and it is a curious monument but for me just that at the moment. Islam goes back over 1400 years and the Elite/Illuminati a mere 400 years.

In regard to which is the most dangerous to humanity the elites or the Jihad against the Western world we'll just have to agree to disagree. You say they are less of a problem cos they are immigrating to different countries in the world and we can see them as opposed to the Elites. That my friend is part of the jihad against the west. Infiltrate and make the changes from within and this has been found in the documents of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Unites Stated. We are all witness to the many demands and changes over the years and they are succeeding beyond anything they could have believed or hoped for. Europe is in dire straits for many reasons and one of the major ones is the Muslim problem in the different countries. They have no problem saying exactly what they plan to do publicly and they do almost on a daily basis. The problem is that people don't listen. I and others have been writing about this and warning for years now. The many videos are there to listen to and many have been posted here. MSM doesn't report on this cos it isn't politically correct to do so. The bottom line is that they say what they mean and mean what they say. So it's not as simple as you portrayed it to be.

As for them being in positions of government. They've infiltrated the governments including the US government and the affect of them being in those positions are felt in many different ways.

That said, in addition to the above they are as I said in previous posts working in concert with the elites and this won't be the first time in history they've done this. Remember one thing. One of your points was that the elites have huge sums of money at their disposal and the same can be said for a large majority of the Muslim world. In addition they have the power of oil and can cause havoc world wide when they up the price for oil. We've seen the results of that in the past more then once. It's a jugular hold and they control the supply of this energy source to most of the world.

Again, both are dangerous to our very existence and we can agree to disagree on which one is more and which one is less.

Shalom,

Peter

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RE:HSIG-Ron Paul: Concern Over Iranian Nuke Progran "Blown Out Of Proportation
11/7/2011 12:23:42 PM
Hello Friends,

Ron Paul is at it again. He thinks the Iranian Nuclear threat has been "blown out of proportion". Another irresponsible pronouncement by this man. His solution is offering them friendship. So logical, a country whose leaders threatens the United States and the world should be offered friendship. The guy is a joke and the biggest farce in town.

Read more about it in the below article.

Shalom,

Peter

Ron Paul and Obama are essentially identical in their blinders about the Islamic Republic of Iran and its genocidal aspirations, even if their language about sanctions differs cosmetically. Isn't there even one politician anywhere who has any idea about the magnitude of the jihad threat and the spine to speak out about it? Apparently not.

"Paul offers friendship with Iran; Says nuclear weapons program 'blown out of proportion,'” from the Associated Press, November 6 (thanks to Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi):

WASHINGTON — GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul says “offering friendship” to Iran, not sanctions, would be a more fruitful to achieving peace with Tehran.

The Texas congressman says fears about Iran’s nuclear program have been “blown out of proportion.” He says tough penalties are a mistake because, as he says was the case in Iraq, they only hurt the local population and still paved a path to war.

When asked on “Fox News Sunday” what he would do to deter Iran’s alleged nuclear ambitions, Paul said “maybe offering friendship to them.”...

Just what we need, another naive sucker trying to deal with the "War Is Deceit" crowd.

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RE:HSIG-Ron Paul: Concern Over Iranian Nuke Progran "Blown Out Of Proportation
11/7/2011 1:46:49 PM


Thank you, Peter for the Ali Sina post. That guy is one great guy. For those who don't know anything about him, he's an ex-muslim and as far as I know is secular and not affiliated with any religion ...at the moment.

His website is www.faithfreedom.org

He calls Muhammad, "Prophet Muhammad: A Monster of History" and has a blistering article by the same name on his website. Ali offers Muslims $100,000 if they can use the Qur'an to prove him wrong and he says if they do prove him wrong, he will return to the Muslim faith. He's quite a character. Muslims hate him but when they argue with him, they often leave Islam and side with him. Pretty amazing.

For those who pray, let's remember him in our prayers as I imagine he is in grave danger almost all the time. In Islam, the penalty for apostasy is death!

Helen


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RE:HSIG-Ron Paul: Concern Over Iranian Nuke Progran "Blown Out Of Proportation
11/7/2011 2:34:19 PM
Hello Amanda, Hello Peter,

With half an eye open I have followed both of your arguments. Neither are all wrong nor are they all right, even though wildly off subject to the name of the thread. I came across a good read the other day that seems to answer both in a not too distant manner.

Today thousands of people are howling against the occult powers that behind the scenes are running the politics and all politicians are under their power. Hmmm! This has been so since near 2000 years! I rather like to refer to Tertullian (160-220) who said “Catholic Faith and Jewish power are like the two pans of a pair of scales: as Catholic Faith goes up, so Jewish power goes down, and as Catholic Faith goes down, so Jewish power goes up. But the Faith overtops the power.” Different times different enemies but same principles. This means that it is not the Jews that are the problem (Soros and c°) even if they have an important part in the game. The problem is that Christians and Catholics right up to the top of the ladder, have turned from their faith and have only themselves to blame. Similarly I will dare to say and bear the thunder of you Peter, LOL that this goes also for the Jews in their new country since 1946 with regards to Islam.

If God’s friends would understand how they are being scourged by his enemies for having thought themselves emancipated of his almightiness, then conspiracy theories would all drop into place: neither more, nor less, important than they really are, and always have been. David slew Goliath not threw his own power, no way, he slew his enemy because he trusted God as the Almighty and aligned his life fully not only with regards to the first commandment. History proves there are many Davids over the centuries.

‘nough said. ;-)
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