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RE: HSIG - Fear And Loathing In The Iranian Revolutionary Guards
4/16/2011 8:34:25 AM
Hello Friends,

What really astounds me is the total lack of comprehension of the MSM and many Western Countries including the United States in regard to the different uprisings in the Middle East. If the consensus amongst them is that these uprisings will bring about Democratic governments instead of the secular Muslim regimes has already been proven to be a naive philosophy as we can see with the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Before you know it there'll be another theocratic radical Islamic regime which will be a mirror image of the Iranian lunatic regime. This is a direct outcome of B Hussein having no direction or plan and his flip flopping with Egypt and Mubarak is proof of that.

The same can be said of his campaign in Libya. Bomb Gaddafi's forces (killing civilians in the process) arm the protesters not knowing who they are and you'll end up having yet another mirror image of Iran. The fact that many of the protesters are Al Qaeda forces and others are the same jihadis that were fighting American forces in Iraq makes this campaign even more ludicrous.

What constantly amazes me is the fact that Iran is being ignored while more protesters are killed there every day and the silence of the world about it is deafening. Iran is the greatest danger for many reasons and that includes their soon to be Nuclear weapons. Another major problem is their supporting, financing and arming of the "protesters" in the different Muslim countries. This is not speculation but facts known but ignored. Many of the Muslim countries not aligned with the Iran/Syria (soon to join Turkey) axis of evil are sorely disappointed in the United State's lack of action in this regard and have said so publicly.

Another point to ponder is the mild reactions to the murder and butchery of Syrian citizens. So far B Hussein is "horrified" but that's about the extent of any actions in that region.

There must be reasons that Iran and Syria are "ignored" and they continue to kill at leisure. Just yesterday I read that more Syrian's are killed by the regime in a non combatant zone then anywhere else in the world. Quite an accomplishment I'd say with the world remaining deathly silent.

The below article is interesting for the simple reason that it shows that there is descension in the ranks of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) the supposedly totally loyal military arm of the regime. That's good news since if the Western World is remaining silent at least some in the Iranian military are getting fed up with the murders, rape, torture and worse that this regime is guilty of. The regime is worried that this tide will broaden and they'll suffer a similar uprising to those we're witnessing in the Muslim countries (supported and financed by Iran) and will include major defections of military personnel. Hopefully that will come to be.

Shalom,

Peter

Fear and Loathing in the Revolutionary Guards

Will Muslim unrest shake the Iranian regime at its core?
April 14, 2011 - by Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi

In an act of open insubordination, during the March 10th demonstrations in Tehran, seven members of the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) security forces refused to shoot at protesters on the streets. Arrested and jailed in Tehran’s infamous Evin prison for interrogation, they are still being interrogated as the Iranian regime’s authorities debate how to deal with them.

During the interrogations the regime’s intelligence sources have repeatedly warned the seven — identities still unknown — that they must reveal the names of the “leaders” of the organization(s) they are taking orders from, as well as disclose the names of any other member of the IRGC and Basij forces working undercover.

To that end, the commanders of the Basij have joined the interrogators and are absolutely determined to make the connection between the insubordinate guards and the authors of a recent letter written to Mohammad-Ali Jafari, the chief commander of the Revolutionary Guards. The open letter, published at various sites, was penned by a number of top-ranking but anonymous members of the IRGC. In it, they announce their defiance of their orders and their refusal to treat protesters with violence.

The accused reject all knowledge of such a letter.

The commanders of the IRGC are said to be debating the proper form of disciplinary action. Where a few have suggested that firing them would be just punishment, the majority are reluctant to consider letting it go at that, certain that any and all those who refuse to follow orders must be severely punished.

But execution does not seem to be an effective deterrent. Back in August 2010, a number of the IRGC members who were arrested and detained for insubordination were drugged and then buried alive. But, of course, the news didn’t stay under wraps for very long. Soon enough, it was widely reported by blogs and human rights organizations.

Mohammad Naghdi, the head of the Basij auxiliary militia, has suggested that dissenting guards’ wives and children (over 12) should also be arrested. But others in the intelligence ranks feel that the insubordinates should be severely disciplined precisely to keep it all under wraps, depriving the opposition of yet another tool to use against the Iranian regime. Jafari, for his part, has firmly maintained that direct disobedience of orders is treason — and an inexcusable offense against the holy principles of the military forces who are there to defend the Iranian regime.

With the blessings of the supreme leader, Jafari has begun to set up a task force to investigate and counteract the further spread of dissent in the ranks. The task force will be comprised of handpicked members of the Quds Force and its mission is twofold: first, to send undercover members of the IRGC or Basij to infiltrate dissenting groups, and, second, to publicize and discredit the subversives in order to discourage further defections.

It is said that in a private meeting with Khamenei, Jafari expressed his fear of a domino effect within the region given the influence of recent events throughout the Middle East and North Africa upon his ranks. Jafari stressed that news of the Libyan pilots who fled Libya in a fighter jet for Malta and the defections of other Libyan military personnel could reverberate throughout the Iranian military and trigger similar actions.

Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi is a New York-based Iranian political analyst and human rights activist.

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RE: HSIG - Two Jihadi Terrorists Confess To Fogel Massacre - Without Regret
4/17/2011 5:06:46 PM
Hello Friends,

The IDF arrested the two terrorists that slaughtered the Fogel Family in Itamar last month. There was no doubt they would be caught and they admitted their actions and expressed no remorse for the brutal killings.

The 2 jihadi terrorists are from the same family (18 and 19 years old) and as you'll see from the second article below terrorism runs in the family. You can say like father like son.

The Fogel family and the Ben-Yishai family can at least start the Passover holiday knowing that the murderers are in custody and will be tried and punished for their terrorist attack.

Shalom,

Peter


Two Arab Terrorists Confess to Fogel Massacre - without Regret

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu and Gil Ronen

Security forces arrested two residents of the village of Awarta near Itamar, who have confessed to murdering the Fogel family last month. They acted out of Arab nationalist motives and have not expressed regret for their crime.

The commander of the IDF in Samaria (Shomron) said in a video briefing, "The murderers are in our hands."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAgEsMIJRbw&feature

srael Security Agency (Shin Bet) lifted a gag order on the investigation of the massacre at noon Sunday (5 a.m. EDT). The terrorists were indentified as Amjad Awad, 19, and Hakim Awad 18, residents of Awarta, an Arab village neighboring the Jewish community of Itamar, where the Fogel family lived.

The teenage terrorists, who are members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), were assisted by at least six others, four of them from Awad’s family.

The massacre of the Fogels took place at night on Friday night (Sabbath), March 11. The terrorists climbed over the fence surrounding Itamar, a Samaria community, and entered the Fogel family's home. They stabbed to death Rabbi Ehud (Udi) Fogel, his wife Ruth, 11-year-old Yoav, four-year-old Elad and three-month-old Hadas.

The terrorists not only expressed no regret for the brutal stabbings of their parents, the baby, and two other young children, but they also said they would have killed two other children, Roi, 8, and Shai, 2 if they had known they were in another room. The sixth child, Tamar, was out of the house at the time of the murders and discovered the shocking scene when she returned home.

The terrorists told investigators that before entering the Fogel home, they went into an adjacent home, where the residents were away. The two teenagers stole weapons from the home and also took a gun from the Fogel family after the late Friday night slaughter of their victims.

Investigators said they were shocked by the impassionate confessions and description of the murders by the teenagers, one of whom said he has been prepared to become a “martyr.”

In an unusual decision, the family agreed to release graphic photographs of the aftermath of the murder, in order to explain Israel's situation in the face of Arab barbarism.

The Prime Minister’s Office was dismayed by the halfhearted and belated denouncements issued by the Palestinian Authority after the massacre, and blamed the PA's incitement of its populace for enabling the crime.
Following the massacre, the government approved the construction of 500 new housing units to be built in Maaleh Adumim, Ariel and Kiryat Sefer, adjacent to Modi’in. No new construction was approved in smaller communities, such as Itamar.

Rabbi Yehuda Ben-Yishai, the mourning father of Ruth Fogel, told an interviewer that the grandparents of the orphans will will take upon themselves the difficult task of raising them, in order to "pave for them the path so that life will be victorious."

“Their mother and father will pray for them from the Heavens, their grandfathers and grandmothers will give them a lot of love, and the People of Israel will hug them and encourage them to grow and continue in the path of their parents," he said.

Slain: Four year old Elad.


Slain: Eleven year old Yoav.


(IsraelNationalNews.com)



Udi, Ruth and Elad Fogel
Israel news photo montage

Fogel Terrorist: Like Father, Like Son

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

The father of one of the murderers of the Fogel family at Itamar had served in jail for terror, and an uncle involved in the 2002 terror attack on same community.

Two teenagers were arrested for the massacre of five members of the Fogel family. The father of high school student murderer Hakim Mazen Awad was active in the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine terrorist organization and previously had been jailed in Israel.

Awad and Amjad Awad carried out the brutal murders at Itamar, the same community where Hakim Awad’s uncle was involved with the 2002 terrorist attack that killed five people. He was killed the following year in a clash with IDF forces.

After the murders of the Fogel family, another uncle of Awad, who also was a PLFP terrorist and had served a prison sentence for terror, enlisted other relatives to burn the attackers’ bloodstained clothes.

While the teenage terrorist butchers returned to school, as if nothing out of the ordinary had happened, the uncle took the knives used in the massacre and moved them to Ramallah. Israeli security agents have identified and arrested the man who hid the knives and have recovered the murder weapons.

One of the suspected terrorist's mother insisted that her son was sleeping at the time of the murders, despite his confession.

Another resident of Awarta, where the terrorists live, told Voice of Israel government radio Sunday that he does not even believe that the terrorist attack took place.

(IsraelNationalNews.com)

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RE: HSIG - Two Jihadi Terrorists Confess To Fogel Massacre - Without Regret
4/17/2011 5:23:06 PM
Hello Friends,
I have to apologize for the enormous fonts in the second article above. Can't understand why cos both articles are from the same source and exactly the same size fonts in the original. I tried editing it and it came out worse then it is now. This editor has a mind of its own and should be trashed for a newer and better version.
Shalom,
Peter
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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
4/18/2011 12:43:41 AM
Hi Peter, I must say I find it VERY strange that some forums seem to have an editor problem and some don't. I had never really thought that much about it until I read your post, but it got me to thinking. As I read your post it just dawned on me that not everyone has problems with the editor, only a few do. I don't know about you but I find that very odd.

That being said, I am so thankful that the Fogel family murderers were caught and arrested. These terrorists are taught their hatred and evil from the cradle to the grave and it is such a travesty that innocent people like the Fogel family have to suffer because of them.

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Hello Friends,

I have to apologize for the enormous fonts in the second article above. Can't understand why cos both articles are from the same source and exactly the same size fonts in the original. I tried editing it and it came out worse then it is now. This editor has a mind of its own and should be trashed for a newer and better version.
Shalom,
Peter

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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
4/18/2011 4:22:04 AM
Hi Evelyn,
I'm gonna have to disagree with you here. I've seen other forums that have issues with the editor and the problems are visible as you read different threads. Over sized article titles, change in the size of fonts in mid post and articles etc. we've also seen others complaining about the editor many a time so we aren't the only ones suffering from this crappy editor.
The conclusion is to scrap this one and get a new editor that hasn't got all the glitches this one has.
Shalom,
Peter

Quote:
Hi Peter, I must say I find it VERY strange that some forums seem to have an editor problem and some don't. I had never really thought that much about it until I read your post, but it got me to thinking. As I read your post it just dawned on me that not everyone has problems with the editor, only a few do. I don't know about you but I find that very odd.

That being said, I am so thankful that the Fogel family murderers were caught and arrested. These terrorists are taught their hatred and evil from the cradle to the grave and it is such a travesty that innocent people like the Fogel family have to suffer because of them.

Quote:
Hello Friends,

I have to apologize for the enormous fonts in the second article above. Can't understand why cos both articles are from the same source and exactly the same size fonts in the original. I tried editing it and it came out worse then it is now. This editor has a mind of its own and should be trashed for a newer and better version.
Shalom,
Peter

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