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Re: SIMPLY, AND AT NO COST - BE HEALTHY LOSING WEIGHT !!!!
11/29/2008 10:33:24 PM

Hello My Meshugeneh Friends,

Ankarb, you are normally quite a perceptive person but unfortunately this time you missed the mark completely and totally. Although this will be one of my serious posts always remember one thing you might be an SO (temporarily suspended. see previous posts!)  but never forget I am T - Rex and I miss nothing. Meshugenehs Gerri from down under and the prim and proper Sarah (we need one of those since the rest of us are wild ones) are greatly appreciated and their wit and meshugeneh genius is to be praised.

These past few days I've been occupied by unpleasantness, hate, racism and anti-semitism here in Adland ( Read Here). Theses are traits that we all know many still have but one would expect that the majority of our acquaintances and friends to be outraged by this as much as I was. I expected the forum owner to delete the post especially after I posted there that this was a hate post and should be deleted but as I wrote in that post the owner defended her right to her "truths" and beliefs as long as they are presented in a "respectful" manner. This same owner banned a friend for supposedly insulting others by saying "their heads are buried in the sand". Makes a hell of a lot of sense doesn't it. We had a series of exchanges and he proved his double standards, hypocrisy and "logic" for all to see. 

Yet, I was perplexed completely when I saw that aside from Geketa, Amanda and myself not one person  showed their outrage at this disgusting post. [Well, I know Jim wanted to but he is banned and Thomas tried in his way.] I just wonder if this is a question of people not wanting to get involved or are they in agreement with the hate, racism and antisemitism in the post????

All Y'all will have to forgive me but I had to get this out of my system amongst us normal meshugenehs.

Now just to prove that I missed nothing. Here's a LEXIGRAM  for all y'all. Not funny or happy but one that gets this nasty episode out of my system. Please note I put it together on the spur of the moment and it's not very good but it does express my thoughts and feelings. The words in brackets are those not in the lexigram.

ANTISEMITISM

An Antisemite is not a "saint".

Men sent agents [to] in[c]ite [get] smitten in time.

Shalom,

Peter

P.S. Reading my lexigram it looks and sounds more like a Japanese poem but that's all I could come up with. :)

 

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Branka Babic

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Re: SIMPLY, AND AT NO COST - BE HEALTHY LOSING WEIGHT !!!!
11/30/2008 1:19:57 AM

Peter,

Thanks for posting this so serious post, it may ONLY be welcomed among The Meshuganehs. We are people blessed with UNDERSTANDING AN ALIVE AND A TRUE LOVE , and just because of that, our attitude cann`t be caught up by hypocrisy ... and so seldom make fools from us.

I read the post which you are here referring off. I was blushing of the shame reading it. Thought to post a reply. Tried to write anything. Then, gave up.

I didn`t give up due luck of animosity against any hate, on personal or national or any other level. No. Passing the days of USA elections in atmosphere of intolerance and hypocrisy, I have learned a lot.

Peter, wise man may be a spendthrift with all another stuff ... but always takes care not to waste the time.

I don`t like to see any expressions of hate, but if I can tell that I hate anything - I`ll tell HOW MUCH I HATE APOLOGIES after so low shots. They are never heartfelt. Author of this post (and a forum owner who didn`t say any word of comment) ... after those acts really cann`t tell ANYTHING worthy of my time.

Antisemitism is not from yesterday. Insanity also follows human civilization from our roots.

We must accept that, as one single day has it`s intervals ... a human nature has them only. We cann`t heal all illnesses around us . What we have and what`s up to us, is to not permit it`s "virus" to be planted at our soil. All Poles are not antisemits and all Americans are not antisemits. I am sure ... if read this post and a few words in the section About me of this Krystine D. (don`t remember her last name) .... each one normal cann`t than feel a big SHAME ...

But, I understand and welcome your words about this case. I felt close to your feelings about that, when one of our friends posted about my country Serbia, and posted the map in which is not only Kosovo apart of Serbia, but also Vojvodina ... What to tell as a comment ? One normal and healthy not only in the social matters, would never do that. I hope you agree.

I think this is also my very first post serious from first to the last word.

Thanks for helping me to do that.

oveL,

bb

 

 

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Re: SIMPLY, AND AT NO COST - BE HEALTHY LOSING WEIGHT !!!!
12/2/2008 8:21:38 AM
Hi Peter,
I think many people would have read and been outraged at the post you are referring to, but have chosen not to give energy to it because it empowers it.
Branka is a wise Meshugenah.

We know the cause and effect universal law of our actions and that they will return and we may never personally see the consequence of that in others lives, but we need to trust that there is a Divine reasoning.

I would like to share part of a newsletter I received today from Dr. Caroline Myss and I hope it uplifts your spirit, you have many more beautiful things and people to give your Meshugenah energy to.

http://www.freewebs.com/ausvitality/Angels/white%20dove.gifShalom Gerri


"Here’s a pause for thought: I remember studying the texts of the mystical apparitions from Fatima and Lourdes and other well known sightings of the Madonna. They intrigue me for many reasons, not the least being the pattern behind those apparitions. Consistent with her messages to the visionaries was always the urgent plea to tell people to pray. The apparitions of the Fatima Madonna, which occurred in 1917, included the prediction of yet another world war that would eclipse World War I in size and horror, which, of course, World War II did. That early exposure to “messages from above,” so to speak, set me on a path of wondering for years, if “heaven” already anticipated such horror, why didn’t heaven just stop it? What’s with telling us to pray? Why not just stop all those evil Nazis and Hitler and Stalin? How could a good and just and loving heaven and God permit such nightmarish suffering? To say that I struggled with this question as a child and young adult is a masterpiece of understatement. The study of the Holocaust consumed me from the age of thirteen as did the study of war, which still consumes me, always looking for the root of that point of evil.

But finally, in my own way, I understood a small piece of this mystical dictate about the power of prayer. That power represents the counter-power to psychic free radicals that also must find an avenue of physical expression in the form of events in the physical world. Psychic free radicals are generated by the negative thoughts, words, and deeds of humanity, and these gather in the collective unconscious, generating pools of energy that look for vessels of expression. Wars, turbulence, terrorism, violence, greed, and all the shadow characteristics of humanity thrive off of psychic free radicals. That is simply the law of manifestation expressed at the level of the collective unconscious, and we are the ones in charge of how well we learn to work with these laws. The law of manifestation is not just for creating personal wealth, as it has been introduced in popular culture. This is a major cosmic force that functions on multiple levels, including the collective, creating events that affect the collective and reflect the quality of consciousness as a whole. We are either subject to them or we work within them, which is the essence of mystical reasoning. This is what Buddha realized along with Jesus and all great spiritual masters. The turning of the tides is done from above and from within. It is you who must learn to work with the power of your interior forces, to scaffold your inner consciousness and build a soul with stamina, so that when chaos abounds around you, you can see through it rather than be consumed by it.

We can look at this time as a nightmare of chaos or we can look at this time as that which we have prepared ourselves for during these past many years, working on our health and on becoming more conscious individuals. If this isn’t the time to put all that you’ve learned about being a conscious person into action, then when would be that time? Ask yourself, “Why have I worked so hard on myself?” Was it just to process the wounds from your childhood? Well, if it was, be done with that and get on with the business of thinking, living, acting, and perceiving the world around you through the lens of a mystic. This is the time to apply all the laws of the cosmos to every one of your challenges, to approach every problem through mystical reasoning and not that of ordinary reasoning, which will draw you backwards and into your history. Looking backwards at what you used to do or how you used to do something will not work anymore.

So many people have contacted me to discuss what they should do next, because their lives are melting down around them. And my counsel to them is yet another mystical law, which is, “Learn to think in paradox.” That is, paradox is one of the fundamental expressions of the Divine. What looks like an ending is really a beginning; what looks safe is really your fear talking; what looks riskiest is really the way to go. Paradox is a mystical force and when it is present in your life, rest assured that the Divine is equally present in the event.

To me, this is a time of great hope because when chaos abounds, so does opportunity. It can look as if the field of opportunity is bleak, but that is simply not true. As I teach my students, whether you are healing an illness or maneuvering through change, you must keep your attention in the present in order to “perceive” intuitive instructions. These will rarely speak of what you have already done. Rather you have to be prepared to do what you have not done before, as your intuition will always direct you to draw on new inner resources as opposed to relying on the old and familiar.

The power of grace is yet another mystical resource, and not grace in general, but specific grace. In my upcoming book, I elaborate extensively on how to call upon your intimate graces. You have to learn how to use each grace, to become familiar with its power and presence. The grace of Wisdom is especially useful in times of darkness, because this grace gives you the capacity to discern truth in the midst of chaos, however that chaos manifests in your life. The presence of grace is realized when your aptitude for discernment or wisdom becomes heightened, serving you as a candle in the night. Turn to Wisdom writings, either the sacred scriptures of the world or the writings of all the great mystics, as a way of putting their vocabulary in your head and reminding yourself of the value of wise truth.

Wisdom teaches us, for example, that if all we thought was stable evaporated so easily, it can all be replaced just as quickly. Chaos is as much an illusion as stability. What is not an illusion is truth. Truth is the one constant. Look at whatever is happening in your life and remind yourself that if it is chaotic, there is something old that must be surrendered. Look to your interior and listen for guidance. Remind yourself that you are alive at this time because you are meant to maneuver through these changes. Move forward, ever forward. And think like a mystic!

Our time has come. We are no longer “waiting” for the era of consciousness to begin. We are that era. We must now put to use all that we have prepared ourselves to be and to do through these years. The world is now the new monastery in the most cosmic meaning of that term and you are a mystic out of the monastery, who has the potential to be a force of great change in your personal life, for your family, your friends, and your community. We are indeed all in this together – and thank God for that.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

Caroline"

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Branka Babic

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Re: SIMPLY, AND AT NO COST - BE HEALTHY LOSING WEIGHT !!!!
12/2/2008 9:26:17 AM
Thank you Gerri! Amazing. Only what I can tell is : YOU REALLY SPREAD HEALING VIBRATIONS :) . Meshuganeh Hugs From Busy Adolescent`s Mom (busy with baking the cakes to fulfill wishes to my dearest spoiled Meshuganeh son :) ) BB
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Re: SIMPLY, AND AT NO COST - BE HEALTHY LOSING WEIGHT !!!!
12/2/2008 9:35:05 AM
And a brief response to this forum owner, considered as Just Perfect Person for the month December ! Dearest Lilly, What you wrote about me in your winning JPA forum, calling me names and without showing, at least, respect due courtesy, I will not easy forgive, IF you will ever express any apologies. I must just explain you that you, so called intelligent people, cann`t resonate with us SUPREMES. You are just a poor modification of any material thing, enriched by flow called an intelligence :) :) :) .... Considering me as a linguistically reformatter layman !!!!! - without praising my SUPREMELY SKILLS TO MAKE SUCH AN INCREDIBLE FITTING WORD ( to peter, petering).... I don`t know exactly what should I say as an appropriate qualification. ISN`T HERE ANTISUPREMELISM in action? Now I will stop petering you. S O
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