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Mary Hofstetter

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Re: Carols for the Disturbed (Nick)
12/20/2006 10:31:35 AM
Hi Nick, This humor lifted my spirts and made me laugh. We all can see a little of ourselves in all these carols. I suffer from SAD (light deficit) so I think the person with lights in the yard, in the town etc. should be changed to SAD. Yippee, just a couple of days and it will reverse with more daylight coming on the 22nd. Somehow, you should have gotten "Grandma Got Runover by a Reindeer Coming to our House Christmas Eve"....that would be a person who has really lost it during this crazy season. The neighborhood bully must have written "All I want for Christmas is My Two Front Teeth". William, all humor uses the difficulties of others to create something funny in the eyes of others. We can not take seriously the jokes about a one legged woman, people who went to heaven, seniltiy, etc. This forum is provided to give all of us a few moments from the realities of the hurts and budens we ALL bare.
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Re: Carols for the Disturbed (Nick)
12/20/2006 11:26:04 AM

Hello Bill,

This is Luella.  I do believe that Nick meant no harm to anyone.  I know him well enough to state that he was not malicious our callous in any way.  This is his sense of humor.  I say this because I have the same sense of humor and I unintentionally hurt people sometimes.  And Yes, there are times that I do need to apologize.

As you know, I am an agoraphobia, panic disorder, anxiety, and yes even obsessive compulsive disorder survivor.  I have learned through the years, that it is actually good to laugh at yourself at times.  For me, this makes my condition not as important.  However, I never hesitate to share the suffering and pain one lives in with these conditions.  I know too well.  It took eight years of my life. 

For those of you who have been offended by my participation, I am so sorry.  It is never my intention to hurty anyone.  I would be honored that you would include my post and my point of view in your writing. 

Actually, Bill, one thing I learned from my illness is not to take the world seriously.  When I read your post, it hurt me that I was part of what hurt you.  You know I love you and Ally dearly and I would never intentionally do anything to hurt you.

Love,

Luella

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Re: Carols for the Disturbed (Nick)
12/20/2006 11:33:40 AM

Hello Mary,

Your post reminds me of a song that my granddaughter and I created when she was little.

Grandma got run over by a Big Rig......

On her way to see Santa Claus that night....

You may say there's no such thing as road kill......

But as for me and Grandma, WE BELIEVE!

 

She is now 17 and we sing that song together every Christmas.

Love,

Luella

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Re: Carols for the Disturbed (Nick)
12/20/2006 12:55:00 PM

Hello Luella and Mary

    I really didn't mean to offend anyone one here or hurt anyones feelings. I understand completely that Nick had no ill intentions when he posted this. My only purpose here is to help bring about more awareness of a situation where it is an accepted practice to make light of mental illness. It is part of the stigma that prevents some people from seeking help. It seems that you are looking at this in terms of laughing at yourselves and in that respect it is funny and it can be theraputic. I am looking at it from the standpoint of someone who suffers with one of these teribble illnesses and is trying to make the decision to come out of hiding and seek help. I am looking at this from a different perspective. While it is just fun for us, it is certainly not fun for someone who has not come to the degree of acceptance that we have. Luella, Go back a few years to when you were just realizing that your life was full of pain and you felt all alone in the world. When you were needing understranding and compassion but were afraid to talk to others about your problems. Now , picture yourself in that state of mind and then coming across this forum. For those of us who have recovered, it is funny. To some who are  just realizing that they have a mental illness, finding a whole community of people making jokes about the mentally ill would be very damaging. It is the same concept at work here that NAMI tries to address around Holloween. Part of their Stigma Busters program is designed to get people to stop using Mental illness and insane assylams to scare people. My whole point here is that this type of humor can be funny for people who do not have to deal with a mental illness. It can also be funny to some who have a mental illness. It can also be very hurtful to some who are just beginning to learn about their illness and are struggling with the idea of seeking help. We are not in a controlled inviroment here and there is no way to prewarn someone who might be hurt over this type of humor. This is an important point, especially around Christmas time when many people are really feeling alone and depressed because they have no one in their lives who understand their pain. I suppose I should just stay out of this forum so I don't cause anymore conflict. I really didn't mean to offend anyone. I just wanted to present this from a different perspective.

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Re: Carols for the Disturbed (Nick)
12/20/2006 1:41:09 PM

Hello Nick,

Didn't realize how crazy I was.....till now!!!  Thank you so much for helping me realize it!!!  LOL

Sure have missed your forums!

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