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Re: LETS HAVE A GROWN UP DISCUSSION!!!!PLAY NICE NOW !!!!!
11/28/2006 12:19:51 AM

Hi Kathy!  :-)

Seperation of church & state.
  Let's look @ that for a moment......shall we?  Now, years ago when our forefathers wrote our constitution, I VERY HIGHLY doubt that theyy meant that we should not allow our kids to pray for their PB&J sandwhich during lunch.  Nor do I feel that they meant that we should not have the 10 commandments posted in our schools.......or in the court houses across the country.

Anyway it goes.......one must remember that back in the REALLY old days.....religious leaders had great power.  They were the governing force of many countries.  They had too much power......and they did abuse it.

I believe that "Seperation of church & state" simply means that no religious organization may have any authority over an elected government.  How the idiots twisted that to mean that our children can't thank God for their lunch @ school is beyond me. 

My 2 cents.....

Have a great week!  :-)


~ Drummerboy Keep on thinking positive…..thank God for everything that’s good in your life……..and make it a great week!

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Rudy Hiebert(rudyhiebert.myamsoil.c

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Re: LETS HAVE A GROWN UP DISCUSSION!!!!PLAY NICE NOW !!!!!
11/28/2006 7:31:37 AM
"....Seperation of church & state" simply means that no religious organization may have any authority over an elected government..." - hate to flatted your 2 cents worth - but see http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/cs/blcsm_index.htm
where you will not get support for your belief.
In other words, "separation of  church & state" does not exist in the U.S. constiturion. I agree that it has been twisted, like so much of government related logmas.

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Re: LETS HAVE A GROWN UP DISCUSSION!!!!PLAY NICE NOW !!!!!
11/28/2006 11:30:51 AM

Hi Rudy!  :-)

Thanks for your response!  However, I fail to see how you can take information from about.com and count that as some sort of validation.  Sorry, but I don't buy it.  I hate to flatten YOUR 2 cents sir......but...
"Separation of  church & state" DOES exist in the constitution! (see link below)

Why do I say this?  I checked out the 1st ammendment for myself.  I would however have to agree with you on my last statement.  My last statement would be incorrect in regards to what "seperation of church & state" really means.

Here is what the legal begals have to say about this

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/First_amendment#first_amendment:_an_overview

Two clauses in the First Amendment guarantee freedom of religion. The establishment clause prohibits the government from passing legislation to establish an official religion or preferring one religion over another. It enforces the "separation of church and state. Some governmental activity related to religion has been declared constitutional by the Supreme Court. For example, providing bus transportation for parochial school students and the enforcement of "blue laws" is not prohibited. The free exercise clause prohibits the government, in most instances, from interfering with a persons practice of their religion.

I found this to be interesting:


The free exercise clause prohibits the government, in most instances, from interfering with a persons practice of their religion.

Thanks for posting this forum Kathy.  it has forced me to do a little DD on this subject.

Have a great week!  :-)
~ Drummerboy Keep on thinking positive…..thank God for everything that’s good in your life……..and make it a great week!

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