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Jenny SJ

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Re: Hurt, Humiliation and Human Beings
6/21/2006 9:22:47 AM
Hello David, Thank you for a very thoughtful and beautifully written article. I hope that everyone, from the newest member right up to the people that run Adland have read it. You have expressed a lot of things that I would like to have said, but couldn't find the words, and a lot more besides. Doesn't it say in the Bible "Judge not lest ye be judged". The following two comments - the first by you and the second by Kathy are the two that have stayed with me whilst reading the posts on your forum. I hope you dont mind me repeating them "In a community like this, you have the opportunity to learn what people in other places believe, what they value, how they live, what they are afraid of, and most of all you have the opportunity to learn that they are PEOPLE with lives, feelings and struggles just like you. You have a rare opportunity to understand the values and lifestyles of people from all over the globe." and "With that said we also need to let it go whatever it is. God says do not hold a grudge as it is sin." Saludos and to a better future at Adland. Jenny
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Re: Hurt, Humiliation and Human Beings
6/21/2006 9:40:30 AM
Hello Dave and friends, I want to inform you that John and I geve hands after a long direct discussion in skype. I will thank you all who sent me messages and cared for AdLandPRo, for me, for John and also for Arthur, and other friends. John promissed to send a message to Arthur to restore their friendship. We also decided to delete provocating replies from beginning instead of letting the abuser to better himself. Christine I should have listen to you. I beg every one to stop send messages. I have over 600 messages. I also ask you to stop posting at my forum topic USA against Iran and World opinion. Only if it is necessary. For the moment there is no reason. We all fight to unite our voices to make a better AdLandPro an better microcosmos wich cam lead to a better world. Warm Regards Georgios
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Re: Hurt, Humiliation and Human Beings
6/21/2006 10:05:37 AM
Dave, Blessed are the peacemakers... Cheri
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Re: Hurt, Humiliation and Human Beings
6/21/2006 10:12:28 AM
Dear Dave, what happened? What did I miss? Obviously something very deep and hurtful, which is a big surprise to me. However, reading between the lines and what obviously I did miss, it would appear that someone somewhere went beyond the pale, and stirred the possum (as Australians would say). Without knowing the reasons - your points were extremely well made and presented. At the moment we live in a world full of hightened tensions and fears - more than at any time in my memory (and at 66 that goes back a fair way). We are all capable of being unfeeling, and all-round pains in the arse - talk to my wife and she will tell you! We are also capable of misreading the words and attitudes of others - and despite what we sometimes claim - we do NOT take kindly to criticism. That's what makes us human! Interestingly, my cat Scruff couldn't give a toss if I disapprove of what he does - and that's what makes him a lovable cat. Funny how we can't relate like that with other humans? It is no bad thing to be reminded of what we share - rather than what divides us. Ah, through a bit of detective work, I think have just tracked down part at least of the the reason for all this - i.e.Georgio v. John? So all the foregoing should not be read that we are not entitled to our opinions however - and that John had every right to moderate his own forum. The only problem is that it cuts himself off from other opinions that he obviously did not like. That was/is his choice. C'est la Vie! Here in France I became very used to receiving hate e-mails from the US - always related to the Iraq War and the refusal of France to join in - even though I am English by birth. I mentioned elsewhere that my contribution was curtailed to a Netscape site because of this - (even death threats would you believe?) That's life (again - and pun intended). I think in Europe we are more used to making mistakes and having to live with our own follies - after all we have been doing it for centuries! For those who want to read of my own individual follies - then soon you can see it all in glorious black & white in my soon-to-be-published memoirs - 'Brothels, Beans and In-betweens - OR 50 years an Adman'! Just to wrap this up - I think(?) I made an original aphorism many years ago when I noted that 'success is blinding - but mistakes are illuminating'. Maybe I read that somewhere else, but I still believe it to be mine. Let an oldie keep his illusions? Time to go - I am rambling - and a glass of rather nice red wine is awaiting in the garden. Blessings be upon you mes enfants!
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Re: Hurt, Humiliation and Human Beings
6/21/2006 10:15:45 AM
Hi Dave, I agree with you that this community should put this behind them and move on in a spirit of friendship. But , with that said, it is hard to sit back and listen while your country is being attacked verbally. I think this went a lot deeper than everyone realizes. Yes, this was about respect for others opinions, but is was also a wake up call to how some people feel about the United States of America. God Bless Your Good Friend Deborah
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