Ah.... Quantum Physics Quantum mechanics and quantum physics is exceptionally interesting and intriguing theoretical science. Steven Hawking is an absolute genius, but fully admits that the vast majority of the work he has done is pure theory and so far can't even begin to be proven. He has gone far beyond anyone else to date in the field of theoretical math and physics. It is also interesting to note that the latest Big Bang Theory has finally come up with an explanation for what exploded! It is the "Quantum Dot." You might then obviously ask, "So, what's a Quantum Dot?" The answer is that it's a point of infinite mass, therefore is infinitely small, therefore is approaching total nothingness, which means, theoretically, that Nothing, did, indeed, explode and become the Universe. Furthermore, you might want to know where this Quantum Dot came from. Once again, we have an answer: It came from a Black Hole, a theoretical anomoly caused by a collapsing universe. So what you have is a physical (energy is physical, too), continuous, never-ending cycle, that started in infinity and will continue into infinity, with no beginning and no end. And people say I'm nuts for believing in an infinite Creator.... Hmmmmm.... :-D God bless, Dave

Thank you Dave... ... for that single bold word in your rather interesting post below. I just want to make a few general comments that nobody should take on board as any personal sleight or criticism. These are just my comments on what has been discussed so far. Just because something is hypothesised does not make it a truth. And if the proponent of such hyphothesis is considered by many to be a pre-eminent thinker (eg Mr Hawking) then that, too, does not necessarily make it a truth. Simply agreeing with somebody of Mr Hawking's mental ability also does not necessarily make the agreer rise in their own level of intelligence either. That is simply associative behaviour. I have observed an interesting human behaviour pattern, an example of which follows:- :- Watch the characteristics of some subordinate staff when a supervisor or boss is present (the more senior the person the more dramatic it will be). Some tend to take on some of the personal traits of that "senior" person. It amuses me that some even take on personal idiosyncracies such as a unique laugh or other mannerism. Others even take on a false interest in a pursuit that the supervisor or boss has. It is a subtle form of what is colloquially known in Australia as "brown-nosing." Be like the boss and the boss will like you. Getting back to the matter at hand... Maybe one day a person will be able to fly using advanced technology far superior to what we have today (eg letter to telegram to telex to fax to email) but, in my opinion, that day has not yet been reached and it is no good pretending that it has. Jumping off a roof on faith and expecting to fly like Superman is as fraught with danger as standing on the tracks in front of an oncoming locomotive. For those who want to take that "great leap of faith"... ...by all means, try it. But don't say that you have not been warned of the consequences. In fact, I doubt whether anybody would do such a thing. It is easy to say you can do it but will you? THAT is the question. Faith is good but false faith is the domain of those who are easily led. I hope that I have not used inflammatory commentary here. That is not my intention. I am simply unconvinced. If anybody can put forward a decent discussion to refute what I have been saying then I am always open to enlightenment. I guess what I am saying is show me the proof. Edison did, Ford did, others did and, as a consequence, the world advanced. Using those examples, I do not need to have an intricate knowledge of electricity or understand all the mechanics of a motor car to use such devices to my advantage. I just need to know that such things work. They are PROVEN to work. Like most, I leave the boffin section to the experts in those fields. In closing, let me say that each person is entitled to think what they want, me included. I was gonna say: "It's a free world." But that ain't technically right either. So - part of the world, at least, is still free. How did we get onto this subject anyway??? Gary

Hi, everyone. I've been watching this conversation with interest, having recently explored some of the concepts that Linda Miller has put forth here. Since I have no learned answers or comments, I intended only to watch and learn. However, something Gary said made me remember a quote I had tucked away, so I'll throw it out here and see if anyone thinks it worthy of response. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -- Aristotle Cheri PS, Gary, it started because you attract negative web sites. :-)

Hi; ========================================= something Gary said made me remember a quote I had tucked away, so I'll throw it out here and see if anyone thinks it worthy of response. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -- Aristotle ========================================= I can't think of any times when your posts aren't worthy of a response. : ) Here's mine... "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald --> Gravity exists --> People can levitate I accept and would challenge neither of those. *wink* L

============================================================= "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -- Aristotle ============================================================= Very true - in fact I would go so far as to say it is the mark of an active mind, which is why fiction is so popular. We human beings love to be entertained. Quantum physics, for example, is something I find very interesting, intriguing, and highly entertaining, even though to date there is no hard evidence to support it. See http://library.thinkquest.org/3487/qp.html http://www.jracademy.com/~jtucek/science/what.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_physics http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/physics/quant/node1.html http://xxx.lanl.gov/archive/quant-ph http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4237751840526284618&q=quantum (this is VERY interesting) God bless, Dave