Hi Marylin. Thats an awkward statement to answer. Stormpay has stated that it will not be used if other payment processors are in the paid auto-surf & HYIP programs, nothing else. They are trying to protect themselves & their members. There is another forum by David Ellison that just shows what happens, or can happen when mistakes are made. I'm not saying that it has anything to do with any payment procesors, in fact it is more likely that David has a key logger in his system, but there is too much fraud going on at these type of programs, by 'members' who abuse the programs & steal from the genuine members. Davids heart rending forum is here. http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShowPost.aspx?PostID=279750 Your Security Friend in Las Vegas.

HI ANTHONY, Thanks for letting us know about this! I did see that and felt sorry for people who started EGOLD or any other account before STORMPAY Announced this. I thought about quitting for that reason but am going to stick with 12daily a little longer... I just started in December. God bless you ! Carla

Thanks, Anthony. I, however have had too many problems with Stormpay, both with sending and receiving payments. Seems like their security is not up to snuff, either. So, I have quit them and their high fees for no service. Kate

G'day Anthony, Thanks for this info ...did see it somewhere. Thought you may like to see this...Stormpay is not the only payment processor that is having problems. I received this today for a program I belong to. "Dear Bryan, For the time being, I'm forced to close Midas 05' for maintenance until I can come up with a payment option other than Paypal and get it in place. I'm sure almost all of you have heard horror stories about PayPal. Many of you have even asked me for other payment options because you "didn't trust" PayPal or have known someone who has been screwed over by them at one time or another. I should have listened more closely. My PayPal account was closed on January 30th, citing violations of their posted "Acceptable Use Policy", costing me thousands of dollars monthly. Did you know that PayPal can "freeze" any money you have in your account for pretty much whatever reason they want to? Apparently they don't have to follow the same rules that actual banks do. Not only did Paypal NOT include any documentation as to their reason for the closure, they refuse to work with me on the issue at all. The best I've been able to get out of them is "We're sorry, your account has been closed. There's nothing further we can do for you." Active subscriptions to Midas 05 will be cancelled as they next become due unless Paypal miraculously decides to overturn their decision before then. Before you send or receive any more payments via PayPal visit http://www.paypalsucks.com and read the information there carefully. Talk to you soon. Bryan

G'Day Bryan. Before I answer you, did you recieve that email I sent to your home email OK? As for that email from midas, yes i to got that, (I guess we are both in GDI too!) PayPal has a habit of doing that for no reason, if it thinks you are bending one of it's rules, or it makes up new rules without telling anyone, your account is frozen & you may as well kiss your money goodbye! Unless you have a really good lawyer, you will not see that money again. I use PayPal, but never keep any money in the account,as I just don't trust them. What Stormpay is doing, is quite ethical, if you read what they have posted, they simply state that they will no longer continue to be a payment processor in any of the paid auto-surf programs & HYIP's if the program owners want to have more than one payment processor. They will stop money being paid in from their members Stormpay accounts, but expect the members payments to be paid out by the program owners, if the member does not have the particular payment processor that the program owners are going to use instead of Stormpay. You have to read their statement a few times to let the whole thing sink in (well I did anyay) As for what you have posted about PayPal & Midas, there are hundreds of similar accounts of this happening to people at that http://www.paypalsucks.com website. Your Security Friend in Las Vegas