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RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI
12/13/2012 2:39:47 AM

Dear friends,
three neat early masterworks by Dali here. Pretty surrealist at that.


Salvador Dali - The Knight at the Tower (oil on panel, 1932
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Salvador Dali - Necrophilic Fountain Flowing from a Grand Piano
(oil on canvas, 1933)



Salvador Dali - Portrait of Gala with Two Lamb Chops Balanced on Her Shoulder
(oil on olive wood, 1933)

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RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI
12/13/2012 6:28:44 AM

Hi Miguel,

After viewing some of the newer paintings, I believe that Dali was a man that did not want anyone to know who he really was. In some portraits he showed shadows while in others there was no changing of texture of the body. The one with the naked female and floating head, there were two distinct figures, one male, the other female, however the females head was not shown and the males body was not shown. I believe that was the Honey and Blood painting. Also in that painting there were what appeared to be giant needles sticking upwards. These looked to be some sort of moorings, perhaps for lobster pots as this was clearly a water domain. On his painting on tin, one of those needles showed up on display. I'm thinking that the unfinished paintings were unfinished on purpose. You can definetely tell by his paintings that Dali was not a sociable person, and with or without the drugs, he seamed to be a person that was constantly travelling between two or more different worlds. I am also curious as to whether he and his wife ever had children, and if so, did any of them ever follow in his footsteps?

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RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI
12/13/2012 10:20:58 AM
Quote:

Hi Miguel,

After viewing some of the newer paintings, I believe that Dali was a man that did not want anyone to know who he really was. In some portraits he showed shadows while in others there was no changing of texture of the body. The one with the naked female and floating head, there were two distinct figures, one male, the other female, however the females head was not shown and the males body was not shown. I believe that was the Honey and Blood painting. Also in that painting there were what appeared to be giant needles sticking upwards. These looked to be some sort of moorings, perhaps for lobster pots as this was clearly a water domain. On his painting on tin, one of those needles showed up on display. I'm thinking that the unfinished paintings were unfinished on purpose. You can definetely tell by his paintings that Dali was not a sociable person, and with or without the drugs, he seamed to be a person that was constantly travelling between two or more different worlds. I am also curious as to whether he and his wife ever had children, and if so, did any of them ever follow in his footsteps?

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Hi Mike,

Those sticks, often like crutches.

I found this online.

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The crutch, that quintessentially Dalinian symbol, was defined by the artist in his Dictionnaire abrege du Surrealisme (1938) as a "wooden support derived from Cartesian philosophy. Generally used for the support of soft, tender parts." In one of the tales interpolated in the Secret Life, "The Story of the Linden Blossom Picking and the Crutch", Dali wrote: "The second object, which struck me as being terribly personal and overshadowing everything else, was a crutch! It was the first time in my life that I saw a crutch, or at least I thought it was. Its aspect appeared to me at once as something extremely untoward and prodigiously striking. I immediately took possession of the crutch, and I felt that I should never again in my life be able to separate myself from it, such was the fetishistic fanaticism which seized me at the very first without my being able to explain it. The superb crutch! Already it appeared to me as the object possessing the height of authority and solemnity. [...] The upper bifurcated part of the crutch intended for the armpit was covered by a kind of felt cloth, extremely fine, worn, brown-stained, in whose suave curve I would by turns pleasurably place my caressing cheek and drop my pensive brow. Then I victoriously descended into the garden, hobbling solemnly with my crutch in one hand. This object communicated to me an assurance, an arrogance even, which I had never been capable of until then. [...] since then that anonymous crutch was and will remain for me, till the end of my days, the 'symbol of death' and the 'symbol of resurrection'!" In this, the crutch clearly has a sexual function. Dali's crutches, like the soft and hard outgrowths, were to be found repeatedly in his work of the 30s, as in The Enigma of William Tell, Average Atmospherocephalic Bureaucrat in the Act of Milking a Cranial Harp, The Invisible Harp, The Javanese Mannequin, The Spectre of Sex Appeal and other paintings.

ROGER

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RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI
12/14/2012 10:24:34 PM

Mike and Roger,

I just found the below painting by Caspar David Friedrich, another of our great artists featured. It shows a couple of crutches on the snow and if I remember well, this fact alone arouse quite a bit of interest among us at the time.

Mike, all your observations about Dali seem to me perfectly valid. I appreciate the fact that you not only are visiting here but also offering suggestive feedback. What is more, theose observations of yours are particularly interesting. By the way, I have thought too that he may have left some of his paintings unfinished on purpose.

As to you Roger, thank you so much for all the effort you put into these posts. I don't know what it would be of this forum without you, especially now that I can only come for a short while most of the days when I can show up at all.

About the below painting, it wouldn't surprise me that Dali had taken inspiration from its author as well to create some of his own works. He seems to have drawn inspiration from so many great artists, both famous and not so famous, and their works. In particular, he seems to have felt a deep and huge admiration for Diego Velazquez, the great Spanish painter of the eighteen century. I know how you admire Velazquez and his works too, Roger, and have been thinking of posting a special section later on in this thread with just a few of the works by him that inspired Dali's own works. I am sure it will be of great interest to you, too.

Big hugs and blessings,

Miguel

Caspar David Friedrich - Winter Landcape with Church (oil on canvas, 1812)

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RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI
12/15/2012 11:38:31 AM

NOT DALI

Mike McGlothlen

Crutches

We don't need to guess who influenced this painting (and it's rather good too) but here the artist has brought his own humour and interpretation of the crutches.

Just as Dali was influenced by great artists then so the link goes on. If you think about it..... this artist has a long loose connection to Velazquez.

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Miguel, what I love about this forum is that ANYBODY can have a question or opinion here. No matter what knowledge of art you have, it doesn't matter. A lack of previously aquired knowledge brings questions that have probably never been asked. This type of forum can easily be taken off-track and it's up to the author to bring it back, which you are good at. I know by the stats that many visit and never post. I hope that visitors will post. We are here to listen and discuss. We never make fun of an opinion, they are always valid. If one person sees or thinks something, then others will have thought the same.

As I have said elsewhere, my discussions with you via Adland have, widened my knowledge and interest in art, strengthened my opinion that ART IS FOR ALL and that when we strip away the snobbery that surrounds art we find that it is the most humanising shared experience there is. Paintings contain thought, desire, memory, spirituality, knowledge............................... need I go on? THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE.

Anyone not visiting or posting is missing an opportunity to understand.

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