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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
8/1/2012 2:51:10 AM

Kathleen, I think a lot of us were bullied in school, I know I was but I soon got tired of it and scratched the bully very bad on her hands after she kept sticking her pencil in my back. It was all done very quietly and the teacher never knew about it but I will never forget the look on this girls face when I turned around and dug my nails into the back of her hand and drawing blood. That was the last time she ever stuck me with a pencil. :)

I for one admire you for the job you're doing in your online business, especially knowing how you're harassed by the two stalking cyber bullies, but know what? I wonder if they know just what most people really think of them. They are obsessed with me and follow me constantly and everyone that posts in my forums they attack them on the scam site. Today it was Helen. The only thing is though they can yell scam all they want too but they have NEVER provided proof that anything is a scam, they just use this as an excuse to bad mouth and tell lies on people. Did you know they even said Shaklee was a scam, a reputable company that has been in business for over 50 years? That is how ignorant they are. Neither one of them would know a scam if it hit them in the face. I think it's hilarious that most of the other posters ignore them and some have even complained publicly about their gossiping. They are two hate filled, envious, jealous idiots and be sure and watch because tomorrow after they read this they will really be on my case. :)

Isn't it strange that FB is full of MUCH worse things than Adland but you can bet you sweet booty they aren't going to take on FB. No they'll just continue to be obsessed with Adland and some of us members until the day comes they're brought down by a higher power and it will happen because constantly lying on people and trying to put them in a bad light will eventually backfire on them. It may take a while but it will happen so just be patient and keep on doing what you've been doing with your online business.

Remember, although we don't always see eye to eye on everything, I still have faith in you and your abilities. :)

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Hi Mike,

I also got bullied in school, I've had very pale skin all my life, got called names, teased, made to feel like an outcast, and then in 7th grade had to start public school because my parents didn't feel like paying for Catholic school anymore because the tuition was going up, that was difficult, I had to make all new friends, go thru a lot of teasing again, and you know how we learn to be precise in Catholic school and very organized, and that was also a point of teasing from the public school kids. I also had knee surgery at age 12 and had a horrible 7-inch scar which was deep purple for a few months and also a reason for other girls not to want to have me on their teams in gym.

Now I've been losing my hearing for several hears, can't hear much at all anymore, and I tell people that on the phone and they keep yacking as if what I just told them is not any more important than the weather.

My younger son is also hearing impaired and has a serious knee problem that prevents him from running or lifting heavy objects or standing for too long, and my older son was sent home from the military because of stress issues, he's painfully shy and quiet and also has to tolerate negative commentary from people who don't understand that he's a very talented artist and has a heart of gold, neither of them has a job but they help me with everything I need help with, even walking with me a couple blocks to the vets office on ice in winter to get medicine for the cats, my oldest son is right by my side when I need his help, no matter what people say about him not having a job, or me not having a "real job"...and some of that negative commentary is from relatives who don't know anything about the internet or the fact that I taught myself HTML and taught my sons HTML without going to tech school to learn it. I work hard online every day and feel like I've run a marathon every day, and today was on phone calls that I could barely hear, thru my breakfast and dinner.

Then I have to tolerate online harassment from some people who bash the businesses I promote when they don't even understand the businesses, and bash me when they don't even know me or how hard I work and how much effort I put in every day.

There were times a few years ago when I was making jewelry for consignment shops, staying up all night, my fingers frozen in winter, with a blanket wrapped around me, and also taught both my sons how to make jewelry & ornaments. Not very many young men would learn beadweaving with their mom, but my sons are my heart & soul and they knew I needed all their help.

My life has not been easy either, my parents had 6 kids, one was disabled, my dad was the only one working, only had one car, my mom didn't drive, and we all wore hand-me-downs when we weren't wearing our school uniforms. Nobody's life has been perfect, and my hearing is worse every day, I don't realize it until I have to talk to someone on the phone, and sometimes I DO have to. I don't want a hearing aid, my father refuses to get one, I'll get one when he does, probably never, or when the world stops all the stuff I don't want to listen to.

NONE of that matters enough for me to mention it on a regular basis, BECAUSE, as I've said before, I was raised with a sister who was born with Cerebral Palsy, and nothing else is as big or bad as that, nothing else overshadows knowing that a loved one will never run or do everything the rest of us do. None of my problems or my sons problems are that big. Nothing in my world will ever be as big as that, and having a sibling with a major disability is a driving force, it's a pivotal force in my entire daily life. My hearing loss is a minor issue, harassment is a minor issue, nothing else matters except wishing she had the life we all had, and she worked her butt off, and now so do I, no matter what other people think or say, and it's not to "rub salt in a wound" of anyone else who's not earning online, because I NEED TO earn online, and when other people state their problems, I know I have my own problems, and I keep working and working and working because my problems are not a major lifetime disability, and I know that, my problems are small and always will be, compared to my sister's life, my lifetime is easy and always will be.

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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
8/1/2012 3:32:37 AM

Hi 10_1_136.gifKathleen,

I'm not sure if they offer it where you live, but there is a product whose name I believe is 'Suretell' This is a device that you attach to your phone. When the person on the other end speaks, their words are printed on a screen such as, "Hi. This is Uncle Tom. How are you doing?" In this way, you can see what they are saying. Now, as I have said many times before, when we correspond on the internet, our words show up, but not our emotions. Therefore, it is very easy to mis-understand what a person is feeling. I do not believe that my experiences are unique. I feel that there are many people that have had frustrating experiences as well. I am sorry that you mis-understood my meaning about the jobs online. I tried to be discreet, however I obviously did not succeed. I have a lot of very good friends that I have made over the years and through the years I have joined some of their programs. Once I received the information packetts I also received the ready made letters that I was suppose to send out to prospective people that would be in my downline. The words may have been different, however the message was always the same. "I made $500.00 my first week and you can also." I do not feel that that is being honest. On one of these programs I had explained that I really couldn't afford the monthly fee, however my friend assured me that I would double my money in no time. What I had not realized was that my friend had also talked Shirley into joining as well. I won't say how much we were paying but it hurt. We finally got out of all of these programs, but were still being billed by some of them. We finally asked one of our friends to tell us how many people were in their downline and how much were they actually making. The friend finally told us that we were the only people in their downline and they had not made a penny in the three months that they were in the program. We are still friends with these people, however I don't care how much they say we can make, we have been burned too many times.....by friends.

The other thing that I was trying to point out is that many of us have made mistakes in our lives, either by things that we did or things that we did not do. I have never felt that you can prove that you are a man by beating on a woman, in fact I believe that by doing that you are proving just the opposite. I had given my opinion on the Panhandler simply because I have been in similar circumstances, however I did not make up a sign and stand on a street corner. I have been out of cigarettes for three days and I have been going out picking up butts. Do I like doing that? Of course not. Are cigarettes good for me. Perhaps not. However, this is my problem,so why should I beg strangers to support my habits. I won't have a paycheck until Friday, and I don't plan on going out any more this week.

I was born and raised Catholic as well. When it came for me to go to High School, my mother put my name in for Coyle High School, which was the Catholic High School for boys. Saint Mary's High School for girls was about two miles away. I came in from playing one day and my mother was excited. She said that I had been accepted for Coyle High School. This was the first that I had heard about it. I shook my head and said that I wasn't going to Coyle High School. I was going to the Public School, Taunton High. She tried to convince me that Coyle High was better and that there would be all boys, no girls. I sighed and said, "That's why I won't go. There are no girls. Besides, the teachers are all priests and they beat up on you all the time." (This is the truth) She was defiant and asked me why I wanted to be around a bunch of girls for and I smiled and said, "Because I might get lucky." I did.10_1_136.gif

GOD BLESS YOU

~Mike~

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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
8/1/2012 12:44:39 PM

"Chick-Fil-A Blues"
Wild Bill stands with Chick Fil A as liberal bigots attack the Christian faith.
"Satanic Bible Democrats"
The Satanic Bible is remarkably similar to the liberal Democrat party of today
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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
8/1/2012 1:08:03 PM

Read about another attack on people who homeschool their kids. Unreal. This is another story that should make you furious and if it doesn't then there is no hope for you.

Mom booted from hospital as baby snatched

Now judge told to ignore med center behavior, social worker's 'patently false' claim

by Bob Unruh

A social worker who called police after apparently making up a story about a possible danger to a newborn, and the hospital that then gave a shot to the infant based on the social worker’s story, now want a federal court to ignore their actions.

According to the Home School Legal Defense Association, which brought a case against the Hershey Medical Center and social worker Angelica Lopez-Heagy on behalf of Scott and Jodi Ferris, the defendants have asked the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania to dismiss the claim.

HSLDA confirms it is working on a rebuttal to the request for dismissal.

“HSLDA is in the process of responding to these motions, ensuring that the Ferris family receives the justice they deserve,” the organization told WND today.

The hospital and social worker’s agency in Pennsylvania declined to respond to WND requests for comment, and the court said the case details were not available online. Dauphin County, where the incident took place, also declined to respond to a WND request for comment.

HSLDA said the defendants want the court to dismiss the case and ignore the fact that the social worker and hospital worked together to administer vaccinations to a newborn over the objections of the parents.

That’s not all.

According to the court filing and a report from Michael P. Farris, chairman of the HSLDA, the case developed this way:

The couple had been planning a home birth with a midwife, but the labor started earlier than expected, so the midwife encouraged them to go to the local hospital. Baby “Annie” was born in the ambulance in the parking lot.

While the hospital took charge of the newborn, Jodi began asking the nurses about her baby, and then the hospital staff gave her an injection without telling her what it was.

Eventually a doctor told her that Annie scored a 9 on a physical exam applied to newborns known as the APGAR test. A score of 8 or higher is considered healthy. (It is unclear when the score was given since she was in the ambulance at birth.)

But shortly after this a different doctor told Jodi that Annie was “very sick” and would need to stay in the hospital. This doctor’s comments were accompanied by an explanation of his disdain for midwives saying, “Too many people think they know what they’re doing.

Then, after several hours, another staffer told Scott and Jodi that Annie would have to stay in the hospital for 48 to 72 hours for observation, explaining the law requires that. (There is no such law in Pennsylvania.)

Shortly later, a government social worker named Angelica Lopez-Heagy came into Jodi’s room announcing that she was there to conduct an investigation. Jodi asked to know the allegations, and the social worker refused to answer.

When Jodi questioned that, the social worker said, “Since you’re not going to cooperate, I’ll just go and call the police and we can take custody of the baby.”

Jodi agreed to cooperate, but then the hospital asked to check Annie’s white blood cell count and to perform a strep test. Jodi agreed to the testing. Then the hospital demanded that they give Annie a shot for Hepatitis B. Jodi said that she would agree only if they tested her or Annie to see if either of them were positive. If so, then she was quite willing to have the shot for Annie. The hospital claimed that they had forgotten about this earlier when it was still possible to test that day, and that they needed to give the shot anyway without any testing.

Farris wrote: “Put yourself in Jodi’s shoes at this moment. You gave birth that morning in an ambulance. The hospital has made wild and conflicting claims about your baby’s health all day long. You are exhausted. You are in pain. Your husband has gone to check on your children. And a social worker who has threatened to take your baby into police custody is standing in your hospital room demanding that you make an immediate decision.”

Jodi asked that the decision wait until her husband returned, and the social worker then produced a “safety plan” and demanded a signature.

When Jodi said she wanted her husband and an attorney to review the plan, the social worker “left the room and called the police. Without a court order they took custody of Annie, immediately claiming that she was suffering from illness or injury – a patently false claim,” HSLDA said.

While the hospital administered the unauthorized Hepatitis B shot for the newborn, the police “made Jodi Ferris get up out of her hospital bed and escorted her to the entrance – they were expelling her from the hospital because she had not signed the ‘safety plan,’” HSLDA reported.

Her husband was at the entrance, and both were escorted off the grounds – without their child. HSLDA reported the hospital allowed Jodi to return every few hours overnight to nurse the baby, so she was forced to spend the night in a car in a nearby parking lot.

“You read that right. They kicked this mother out of the hospital, and in order to be close enough to feed her child, she had to sleep in the car,” HSLDA said.

When the issue went before a judge the next morning, the judge returned the child to the parents.

“It is not a crime to ask questions about the well-being of your child. It is not a crime to ask for testing to ensure that a procedure is needed before it is done. It is not a crime to be a protective mom,” HSLDA’s report said.

“It is a moral offense of the highest order to kick a mother out of a hospital and to seize her child on the day of her birth simply because a mom wanted to have her husband read a legal document before she signed.”

The HSLDA said it took on the case because of the significant parental-rights issues involved.

“We are tired of seeing the erosion of parental rights in virtually every area of life,” Farris said. “Parental rights in medical cases have an impact on broader parental rights, including education decisions. And the plain fact is this: If we don’t fight for parental rights, it is probable that our rights will be eroded bit by bit until there is nothing that remains.”

A special campaign has been assembled by HSLDA to fund the court case, since the organization will not bill its homeschooling constituents for such a case.

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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
8/2/2012 2:58:04 AM
Hi Evelyn, Mark & All,

I can't agree more Mark but it goes way beyond that. I've been reading this thread from the start and have a feeling that some people are giving more information about themselves and their personal lives then others want to know (aside from the "stalkers"). It feels like an overload of info and with some I have a feeling they have ulterior motives for this overload.

The problem is that sometimes people go through difficult patches whether it be financial, personal, relationship issues etc. It can sometimes temporarily alter your way of thinking and cause you to say or write things that in the past were not the views you had. What we all must remember is that we're addressing not only the forum members, participants and followers but the WWW.

I read all your posts Mike and feel that you've lost all sense of what should or shouldn't be shared with others. Much of what you shared with the world should have been kept within the 4 walls of your home, mind and heart unless you have an ulterior motive for sharing that with the WWW. I've read similar posts over the years and could never understand how a person who claims to be an agent for artists could self destruct as you've done. A simple question I'm asking is what artist in his right mind would go to a person who looks for cigarette butts in the streets? It seems like a you're in self destruct mode.

You know Mike panhandling isn't only standing on street corners or on sidewalks but threads begging for money is a form of panhandling too. The list of people responding has dwindled to a total of zero and there's no surprise in that. I wonder how many now will wonder if you'll buy cigarettes rather then food and pay bills after learning about your cigarette butt street hunts?

Hey Evelyn, I'll not be insulted if you decide to delete this post but these are just some of my thoughts and felt like sharing them after reading these self flagellation posts.

Shalom,

Peter

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Anyone Have Any Ideas what this Means?

This is getting…..


Posting facts and discussing them is one thing.

Talking about opinions is well, you know what they say…..

Do you get the feeling that The coffee is getting a little to hot?



Anyone know of the Three things that you should not talk about?

I forgot!

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