Helen, I still say we've not heard the whole story and if you go back and read where I edited my original post, I added the link where you can go and read some of the viewers comments and not all are agreeing this was a good idea, in fact a lot of people see this as the father not acting like an adult with his own temper tantrum. Here's the link again in case you or anyone else are interested in reading others opinions. There are comments for each side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU&feature=player_embedded

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Hi Evelyn

I, too, would have handled it differently but he's doing it from a man's perspective. An attitude like hers often comes from being spoiled and doted on in my experience. He should have taught her consideration, respect and caring for others long before now but better late than never. She embarassed her family in front of the whole world so I don't blame her Dad for showing her what it feels like. I'm sure it will all work out in the end and it won't be more than a few years before she is laughing about it, too.

Helen

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Happy Saturday Helen and friends. I watched this video last night Helen, right after you posted it, and I have a very different perspective than most of you. As I listened to this gentleman talk I too, was inclined to heartedly applaud him until near the end when he talks about Hannah's mother and stepmother and then I began to take a different view. As someone who raised a stepchild I know there are scars that can never be erased. I feel as though we're only hearing one side of the story here. I in no way condone Hannah's posting on her facebook page but neither do I condone the actions of her father in destroying her laptop and posting it to the world wide web. Here we evidently have a child from a broken home and although it's not clear, it sounds a though she is probably living with the father and stepmother. As I said, we're only hearing one side of the story here and in all fairness I would like to hear the other side before I make a snap judgment.

I think the father was wrong in putting the video on the world wide web for everyone to see and with his daughter only being 15 years old, this may not have the desired effect he's looking for but just the opposite. In my opinion this is a case of airing your dirty laundry in public. Not good.

I would just like to add that my two moved out before my stepson did. He continued to live with us until he was able to buy his house when he was about 21 years old. We were blessed by having three who never gave us any problems.

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I probably don't need to post this video because it is blazing across the world and sooner or later you all will see it. I decided to make it sooner for some who haven't seen it yet. :))


www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU

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Helen, I still say we've not heard the whole story and if you go back and read where I edited my original post, I added the link where you can go and read some of the viewers comments and not all are agreeing this was a good idea, in fact a lot of people see this as the father not acting like an adult with his own temper tantrum. Here's the link again in case you or anyone else are interested in reading others opinions. There are comments for each side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU&feature=player_embedded

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Hi Evelyn

I, too, would have handled it differently but he's doing it from a man's perspective. An attitude like hers often comes from being spoiled and doted on in my experience. He should have taught her consideration, respect and caring for others long before now but better late than never. She embarassed her family in front of the whole world so I don't blame her Dad for showing her what it feels like. I'm sure it will all work out in the end and it won't be more than a few years before she is laughing about it, too.

Helen

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Happy Saturday Helen and friends. I watched this video last night Helen, right after you posted it, and I have a very different perspective than most of you. As I listened to this gentleman talk I too, was inclined to heartedly applaud him until near the end when he talks about Hannah's mother and stepmother and then I began to take a different view. As someone who raised a stepchild I know there are scars that can never be erased. I feel as though we're only hearing one side of the story here. I in no way condone Hannah's posting on her facebook page but neither do I condone the actions of her father in destroying her laptop and posting it to the world wide web. Here we evidently have a child from a broken home and although it's not clear, it sounds a though she is probably living with the father and stepmother. As I said, we're only hearing one side of the story here and in all fairness I would like to hear the other side before I make a snap judgment.

I think the father was wrong in putting the video on the world wide web for everyone to see and with his daughter only being 15 years old, this may not have the desired effect he's looking for but just the opposite. In my opinion this is a case of airing your dirty laundry in public. Not good.

I would just like to add that my two moved out before my stepson did. He continued to live with us until he was able to buy his house when he was about 21 years old. We were blessed by having three who never gave us any problems.

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I probably don't need to post this video because it is blazing across the world and sooner or later you all will see it. I decided to make it sooner for some who haven't seen it yet. :))


www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU

Helen in one of the comments I read, and it certainly did not sound like a teenager but sounded to me as though it was written by an adult and that comment was asking how the dad and everyone that thought he did the right thing, would feel if this caused this young lady to commit suicide. It happens all the time because a lot of teenagers can't handle the stress some of them are under and I still can't see how this is going to solve anything and as I said, it very well may make the situation worse. Children can be so cruel even without a reason and now I wonder what Hannah will have to face at school from her classmates who will see this video. I still say this should have been handled in private and not sensationalized like this father did by trying to make himself look like some kind of hero, regardless of how angry he was and too in his own words, this was not the first time it happened and maybe as a parent he should have gotten Hannah or the whole family some counseling to try to diffuse the situation.

My three had chores to do and they also got an allowance every week but the two were never tied together, in other words the allowance was not a payment for doing their chores.

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Hello Evelyn

Maybe we have not heard the whole story and one thing is for sure, we don't stand in her Dad's shoes either. I don't think I would completely believe her side if I heard it. I've been around a lot of teens. I love them but I also know they will tell you anything to get something out of you ...like this girl wants to get out of doing some work. She was probably angry because she wanted to spend more time on Facebook. She wants everyone to feel sorry for her.

How many of the viewer's comments came from the girl's friends and/or other teens taking her side. There were other teens, too, who said she was wrong to do what she did. Listen carefully to what she posted on Facebook. It sounds like "spoiled brat" to me.

If I had to only one choice to choose one side, I'd pick his. It's time for her to grow up. 15 years old is closer to being an adult than it is to being a child. Her letter on Facebook was all about "poor me" with no consideration for anyone else. She was rude and ignorant. The girl did wrong and it was up to Dad to discipline her, rightly or wrongly it is his job, not ours. I doubt very much that she is mistreated.

If she had some grievances she should have talked them over with her dad. He on the other hand should have taught her that she could come and talk to him about anything.

I think she was just being a smart alec to all her friends and may not even have meant everything she said but it was not right to do it this way and drag her family through the mud. He buys her a computer and she uses it to slam him and her family. She doesn't deserve a computer until she can pay for it with her own money.

It seems to me that her Dad is a decent sort of guy. He spent hours and dollars fixing her computer. He cared about her. He still does. You can tell from the way he was talking.

It sounds to me like she has a good life and she screwed up.

Helen

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Helen, I still say we've not heard the whole story and if you go back and read where I edited my original post, I added the link where you can go and read some of the viewers comments and not all are agreeing this was a good idea, in fact a lot of people see this as the father not acting like an adult with his own temper tantrum. Here's the link again in case you or anyone else are interested in reading others opinions. There are comments for each side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU&feature=player_embedded

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Hi Evelyn

I, too, would have handled it differently but he's doing it from a man's perspective. An attitude like hers often comes from being spoiled and doted on in my experience. He should have taught her consideration, respect and caring for others long before now but better late than never. She embarassed her family in front of the whole world so I don't blame her Dad for showing her what it feels like. I'm sure it will all work out in the end and it won't be more than a few years before she is laughing about it, too.

Helen

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Hi Amanda, sorry to be so long getting back with you.

I think it is wonderful that you and James are getting back to the basics. Both my parents lived to be 84 and I've always thought it was because of their life styles. My mother died in June of 2007, and always had a garden and froze and canned almost all their food. They had an apple tree too that she used to make dried apples for her wonderful apple stack cakes and fried apple pies and of course they had their bees for honey. They would also buy peaches by the bushel and canned and freeze them. My mom quit milking a cow and raising chickens after my dad retired because they liked to go camping for days at a time and a cow has to be milked twice a day and the chickens had to be fed and watered everyday. There are so many ways to be self sufficient, especially when you have the land space for it.

I find it so interesting to hear about your soap making. I've seen websites and also at craft fairs where people were selling hand made soaps they had made using goats milk. What scent of oil did you use to make your soap?

I can remember my mother making lye soap to do laundry with. She saved the ashes from the woodburning stove and poured water through them to get the lye, which she then cooked with the lard from rendering hogs fat. This fat was from the hogs they had raised and believe it or not the smell wasn't all that bad either, quite pleasant in fact. The soap was cooked outside in a big cast iron wash kettle. I used to love to stick pieces of wood under the kettle to keep the fire burning while the soap cooked. I was very young but this is one of the things I can remember from my childhood as if it were yesterday.

I've also hung my share of clothes on the outside clothes line too and in the winter when it was very cold they would be frozen by the time you got them pinned to the line and so would your fingers, or at least they felt like it.

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James and I trying to get back to the more basics of life again. Chickens, quail, my worm compost that took quite awhile before the worms came to live and do their stuff. I reckon a milking goat would be nice to have next as I have been drinking powdered goats milk in my coffee instead of creamer or cows milk.

James and I made our first batch of soap and after waiting 3 weeks for it to cure I used a bar today in my shower and it soaped up nicely. I took a bar over to my neighbour to ask her to test and let me know what she thought of it too. I made a 2nd batch over the weekend changing some of the oil quantities and putting in powdered goats milk instead of butter milk. I am enjoying the experimentation's to see what will feel better.

Amanda

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You know Amanda, when we see living conditions like these people have to endure should make all of us more thankful for what we have. These are nothing more than hovels these people are living in and until this gentleman came up with an affordable solution, for the most part they lived in the dark almost 24/7.

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Hi Helen, Evelyn and all

This video you shared Helen looked very intriguing and I hope that it works for these people for a long time - imagine being in the dark all day on a beautiful sunny day outside, because we all like sunlight coming into our homes which perks us up and also kills off bugs etc that like to lurk in the dark corners. UGH!

I had to do a search for the serene because I did not know what it was or heard of this word and found it was like a bleach / chlorine they put into the water, I guess so it does not go cloudy and loose the effectiveness of the light.

Amanda

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Hello there!

This a simple but amazing idea....

This could have applications even in the western world. Can you think of some?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_4qFrxw_4