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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
2/4/2012 9:12:51 PM

Hi Evelyn

You misread me, me thinks. I am not looking to get something "for free". Did I say that? I "worked" for it and then the government, the elite, the banks, the big corporations came along and stole it. It had NOTHING to do with my "poor choices". It has nothing to do with envy. Why would I envy thieves?


If someone earns his wealth fair and square, he owes no one anything and it's between him and God what he does with it. God does say to help the poor. However, most of the very wealthy did not earn it fair and square. They stole it ...from you, from me, from everyone they could.

I am going to go lie down now in some corner and let the thieves do what they will and when they want more of my money, I will just be a good taxpayer and give it to them. Then I will turn around and say it was all my own stupid fault and I'll just blame it on my "poor choices".

I hope you have a nice weekend, too.

Helen


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Helen, I must say I was very surprised to see you supporting wealth redistribution, or as you prefer to call it, "wealth repayment", because as a Christian that is not supported by Biblical teachings. This is nothing more than envy, “a feeling of discontent or covetousness with regard to another’s advantages, success, possessions, etc.” The Bible also agrees with this definition.
Each of us has arrived at this point in our lives by the decisions we've made, whether right or wrong, during our life time. I know personally that if I had made different choices, like getting a better education, I would most likely be in a much better position financially and otherwise. I can't blame my wrong choices on anyone but myself and never would I ask anyone, that has more than I do, to give me part of it. I was fortunate to have parents who instilled certain values in us and one of those values was to work for what we wanted. We never asked nor expected anyone to give us anything. Many people who think the world owes them the basics of life, have a history of making poor life choices with bad consequences, including poor choices regarding education.
The taxpayers of this land do not owe me anything and the vast majority of our government’s interventions in our lives robs us of a sense of our own personal responsibility. Neither I nor my children are entitled to a college education, free health care, free food, free housing, etc. In fact, as a Christian, I have promises from my God “to supply all my needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus.”
Have a wonderful weekend. :)

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Hello Peter

I think what I was trying to say that we have been doing nothing over the last 50 years about anything and the Occupiers are doing something about what bothers them <snip>
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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
2/4/2012 9:59:08 PM

Hi Lydia,

That was a good video! If we didn't know it was Russia, it could be anywhere, the snow and trees and people look like they could be from USA or anywhere!

This was last year in Michigan after we had a blizzard, it was high, the lines in the lower left are 4 steps, it was difficult to open the door that day. Now this year we've had a record-setting warm winter with not much snow, today was warm & very sunny. We had 8 inches of snow last week, then the temp went up to 50(F) and it all melted on 1 day.

Here's last year, I think it was February or March, I remember it was a late winter storm:

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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
2/4/2012 10:38:11 PM

Helen I apologize if I misread your post, but I stand by what I said about life being all about choices and if you made all the right ones then I congratulate you because I certainly haven't and to correct some of my bad choices, took a lot of strength and courage on my part to stand up and make the needed changes. Sure, there are people who have had tragedies to face in their life but it is how they deal with those tragedies is again in the choices they make.

As far as anyone stealing money from me, I can't see that. Sure the government requires us to pay taxes and much of it is misspent, I agree, but I fail to see how banks and corporations have stolen money from me. I've never had a lot of money but I never thought it was because someone had stolen it from me and I still don't. I am far, far from being wealthy in money and material goods, but I do not envy or covet it from those that do. I've just never looked at it that way. That is life and life is not always fair, we just have to learn to deal with it and again how we deal with it is another "choice".

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Hi Evelyn

You misread me, me thinks. I am not looking to get something "for free". Did I say that? I "worked" for it and then the government, the elite, the banks, the big corporations came along and stole it. It had NOTHING to do with my "poor choices". It has nothing to do with envy. Why would I envy thieves?


If someone earns his wealth fair and square, he owes no one anything and it's between him and God what he does with it. God does say to help the poor. However, most of the very wealthy did not earn it fair and square. They stole it ...from you, from me, from everyone they could.

I am going to go lie down now in some corner and let the thieves do what they will and when they want more of my money, I will just be a good taxpayer and give it to them. Then I will turn around and say it was all my own stupid fault and I'll just blame it on my "poor choices".

I hope you have a nice weekend, too.

Helen


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Helen, I must say I was very surprised to see you supporting wealth redistribution, or as you prefer to call it, "wealth repayment", because as a Christian that is not supported by Biblical teachings. This is nothing more than envy, “a feeling of discontent or covetousness with regard to another’s advantages, success, possessions, etc.” The Bible also agrees with this definition.
Each of us has arrived at this point in our lives by the decisions we've made, whether right or wrong, during our life time. I know personally that if I had made different choices, like getting a better education, I would most likely be in a much better position financially and otherwise. I can't blame my wrong choices on anyone but myself and never would I ask anyone, that has more than I do, to give me part of it. I was fortunate to have parents who instilled certain values in us and one of those values was to work for what we wanted. We never asked nor expected anyone to give us anything. Many people who think the world owes them the basics of life, have a history of making poor life choices with bad consequences, including poor choices regarding education.
The taxpayers of this land do not owe me anything and the vast majority of our government’s interventions in our lives robs us of a sense of our own personal responsibility. Neither I nor my children are entitled to a college education, free health care, free food, free housing, etc. In fact, as a Christian, I have promises from my God “to supply all my needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus.”
Have a wonderful weekend. :)

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Hello Peter

I think what I was trying to say that we have been doing nothing over the last 50 years about anything and the Occupiers are doing something about what bothers them <snip>
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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
2/5/2012 2:02:42 AM

This is from the James Last Orchestra. Hope you enjoy it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0g2MlaCAFQ

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