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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
12/30/2011 9:14:14 AM
Hello Michael

You must have gotten education somewhere because you tell your stories very well and without spelling and grammar errors. Well done!

Yes, many of the native Indians were treated shamefully in the US and in Canada and not just in history books. What happened to them later was even more shameful. Indian children were torn from their homes and put in residential schools for months at a time where they were abused horribly. We need to make it up to them especially by accepting them as we would accept anyone else.

God bless you and Shirley

Helen
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10_1_136.gifReading is an interesting topic. When I began school, I was seted at the back of the class. I did not know it at the time, but I had a hearing problem. I ultimately did not pass the first year. When I would have an earache, my mother would scrape the inside of my ear with a bobbie pin saying that it would hurt a little, but that's all right. I was also held back in the fourth grade. Sitting in the back of the class. I might as well have been sitting on the dock of the bay. I would read the book in front of me rather than listen to the teacher, because I couldn't hear her anyway. One quick example. In the fourth grade we were given a math assignment. We were to do all the problems on page seven. As I had at times an echo in my ear, I heard page seventy. Page seven was two column addition while page seventy was four column mathe. I struggled, but when I turned in my math assignment I got an A+. I had every answer correct. Under that I received a big red O for failing to listen. When I showed my mother the paper, she told me that I was stupid because I didn't listen. I had asked my teacher on several occasions if I could sit closer to the front and she said that I did not have special privileges. Eventually, I would take books out of the library and study. I did this for the remainder of time that I was in school. However, I noticed something odd about our History books. The Native Americans were savages and the pilgrims were the good guys. While we were studying Early American History, I decided to check out some books written by Native Americans. As our teacher was explaining that the pilgrims were having a terrible time with some of the savages(Whereupon I said, "Whoa. Who were the savages?") and she said, "Why the Indians of course. They were killing the settlers that were trying to set up their new home." I responded, "Yes, but they were doing that by driving the Indians out of their villages." and she responded, "But they didn't belong there. That was our land." I laughed and replied, "So, as our forefathers travelled from the East Coast all the way to California killing the Indians that would not give up their land, the Indians that fought back were savages. Is that correct?" She smiled and said, "Now you understand."squawarrow.jpgI didn't. Later on that year we were reading about Ely Whitney and the Cotton Gin. I noticed that she had never made reference to his color, even though there was a picture of him in the book. Once again, I raised my hand. She rolled her eyes and said, "Yes Mister Caron, what is it?" I asked, "What color was Ely Whitney?" She droned out her answer, "Ely Whitney was white, which you would have know if you read the book."I laughed and said, "Evidently you didn't read the book or look at his picture. First, why would a white man invent a machine that would make things easier for the slaves to do their job?, and how many white men back then sported an Afro hair style. I don't believe they would have been liked very much by their peers." There were a couple of black students in the class who were the first to start laughing, and then everyone else chimed in. I got up, put my History book on her desk and said, "If you are not going to teach us the truth, I quit." I have always been very adamant on determining what is true and what is not. Sorry that O bored everyone.
GOD BLESS YOU
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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
12/30/2011 10:09:32 AM

Hi Evelyn

This forum has been a great idea.

I appreciate the many contributions, those by Kathleen, Amanda, Peter, Roger, Mike, yourself and others. Time doesn't permit me to go into detail but it has been interesting and no doubt will continue to be.

God bless you

Helen

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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
12/30/2011 2:37:38 PM

Hi Kathleen, I had no idea the phrase "There's nothing new under the sun" was a biblical quote either. See, we never get too old to learn. Have an awesome day. :)

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Great poems from Mike and Roger,

I wanted to expand on Mike's thoughts about things money can't buy...

Both of my sons have had a difficult time finding jobs, and so did I for most of my life, even though we're intelligent hardworking people...the job field in USA is more about what you've done before, and if nobody is willing to hire you to start with, then on paper it looks like you've done nothing, when in reality, lots of people are highly capable and would be great employees, and we've all taken crap from our relatives, but what people don't know is, each one of us on this earth can accomplish our own unique greatness, and holding onto that is what drives people forward. If people know what they are good at, and concentrate on it daily, not just for earnings, but to improve themselves in their skills, then great things happen, usually fame first, then fortune. Onlookers don't realize the longterm foundation work that goes in, they only see the results and want the results. None of us are duplicatable, not even in duplicatable systems, because we each have a unique driving force and our own charisma.

My favorite quote from the Bible is "There's nothing new under the sun" and most often I remember that as being the logo from a raisin commercial...SunGiant Raisins!

Well, I looked it up and it's part of Ecclesiastes 1:9

"What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun."

Ecclesiastes 2

Pleasures Are Meaningless

1 I said to myself, “Come now, I will test you with pleasure to find out what is good.” But that also proved to be meaningless. 2 “Laughter,” I said, “is madness. And what does pleasure accomplish?” 3 I tried cheering myself with wine, and embracing folly—my mind still guiding me with wisdom. I wanted to see what was good for people to do under the heavens during the few days of their lives.

4 I undertook great projects: I built houses for myself and planted vineyards. 5 I made gardens and parks and planted all kinds of fruit trees in them. 6 I made reservoirs to water groves of flourishing trees. 7 I bought male and female slaves and had other slaves who were born in my house. I also owned more herds and flocks than anyone in Jerusalem before me. 8 I amassed silver and gold for myself, and the treasure of kings and provinces. I acquired male and female singers, and a harem[a] as well—the delights of a man’s heart. 9 I became greater by far than anyone in Jerusalem before me. In all this my wisdom stayed with me.

10 I denied myself nothing my eyes desired;
I refused my heart no pleasure.
My heart took delight in all my labor,
and this was the reward for all my toil.
11 Yet when I surveyed all that my hands had done
and what I had toiled to achieve,
everything was meaningless, a chasing after the wind;
nothing was gained under the sun.

Wisdom and Folly Are Meaningless

12 Then I turned my thoughts to consider wisdom,
and also madness and folly.
What more can the king’s successor do
than what has already been done?
13 I saw that wisdom is better than folly,
just as light is better than darkness.
14 The wise have eyes in their heads,
while the fool walks in the darkness;
but I came to realize
that the same fate overtakes them both.

15 Then I said to myself,

“The fate of the fool will overtake me also.
What then do I gain by being wise?”
I said to myself,
“This too is meaningless.”
16 For the wise, like the fool, will not be long remembered;
the days have already come when both have been forgotten.
Like the fool, the wise too must die!

Toil Is Meaningless

17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. 18 I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. 19 And who knows whether that person will be wise or foolish? Yet they will have control over all the fruit of my toil into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. This too is meaningless. 20 So my heart began to despair over all my toilsome labor under the sun. 21 For a person may labor with wisdom, knowledge and skill, and then they must leave all they own to another who has not toiled for it. This too is meaningless and a great misfortune. 22 What do people get for all the toil and anxious striving with which they labor under the sun? 23 All their days their work is grief and pain; even at night their minds do not rest. This too is meaningless.

24 A person can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in their own toil. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, 25 for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment? 26 To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
12/30/2011 2:48:59 PM

Amanda when I started this forum, I wanted somewhere where people could post things that there might not be another forum for them to post it in and I want everyone to feel comfortable about posting what ever they want here. Please feel free to post anytime. Have a wonderful day. :)

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Hello Evelyn and friends,


I am reluctant to bring in bad news, yet this is imperative that I do my duty as a human with a conscientious to inform you make aware of what we are consuming on a daily basis. This is far worst than I first knew about and thought I could avoid many products on the market by reading the labels, but as you will see on this video there is not much that we can escape from.

Amanda


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http://www.infowars.com/slow-kill-holocaust-proof-the-government-is-poisoning-you/
Proof that the government is poisoning the population. With their stated goal to reduce population worldwide, the eugenicists who run the world state have resorted to any means to target reproduction and fertility, including the outrageous measures identified in the 1969 Planned Parenthood -- World Population memo written by Frederick S. Jaffe.

That memo proposes reducing U.S. fertility via postponement of marriage, discouraging tax incentives for parents, encouraged increases in homosexuality, adding fertility control agents to the water supply and encouraging women to work, as well as measures including forced abortion and payments to encourage abortions. Many of these draconian calls for involuntary fertility control reflect some of the most controversial entries in the 1977 Ecoscience volume written by current White House science advisor John P. Holdren & population bomb scare-monger Paul Ehrlich.

From Bisphenol-a (BPA), to GMO crops, fluoride in water and countless other toxins slow killing modern society, the elite controllers have intentionally triggered cancer, disease and sterility while trying to mask their attack through "slow" ambient poisons that gradually drag down the masses as they eat factory-produced foods, drink public water and are bombarded by packaging products of all kinds.

BPA and other synthetic estrogen-mimickers are particularly harmful, and widely used in food-grade plastics, metal food cans, recycled paper & receipts, as well as countless other products-- as they interfere with the endocrine system, create gender-bending effects, reportedly cause male infertility, trigger early puberty, contribute to hyper-aging and are linked to breast cancer in adults, prostate cancer in children and numerous other harmful effects.

We participate in our own destruction through the designs of the elite via our own ignorance. Learn the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Read more on how to eliminate and reverse the effects of Bisphenol-A (BPA) and other toxins naturally.

DOCUMENTATION & FURTHER RESEARCH:
static.infowars.com/2011/12/i/article-images/jaffememo-watersterilants.pdf
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/monsantos-gmo-corn-linked_n_420365.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/033782_BPA_exposure_breast_cancer.html
http://news.change.org/stories/bpa-in-plastic-blamed-for-sparking-puberty-in-seven-year-old-girls
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8093585/Bisphenol-A-now-linked-to-male-infertility.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300402/Gender-bending-chemical-food-tins-cut-male-fertility.html
http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/bpa-compromises-male-fertility-across-generations/
http://www.thestar.com/article/843074--banned-chemical-coats-40-of-store-receipts
http://www.thestar.com/article/843074--banned-chemical-coats-40-of-store-receipts
http://www.infowars.com/scientific-study-finds-40-of-all-store-receipts-covered-in-dangerous-hormone-disrupting-chemical/
http://www.usatoday.com/yourlife/health/medical/oralcare/2010-09-07-dental07_st_N.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/05/AR2009030503285.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1241091/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080514091427.htm
http://www.polymersolutions.com/blog/recycling-bpa-containing-receipts-taints-paper-products/
http://www.naturalnews.com/001891.html
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/there-are-drugs-in-drinking-water-now-what/
http://www.naturalnews.com/032031_sperm_counts_radiation.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/033436_toxic_chemicals_clothing.html
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100518/canned-food-may-expose-people-to-bpa
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=6159899&page=1
http://www.ecoawareness.com/blog/bpa-in-toilet-paper-canned-soup%E2%80%A6-is-anything-safe-anymore/
http://healthychild.org/blog/comments/some_unpleasant_sources_of_bpa_paper_products/
http://www.infowars.com/food-and-depopulation-monsantos-monopoly/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/genetically-modified-soy_b_544575.html
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/only-breed-smart-babies-ethicist/story-fn6bfkm6-1226005105129
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/from-7-billion-people-to-500-million-people-the-sick-population-control-agenda-of-the-global-elite
http://www.naturalnews.com/033993_BPA_protection.html

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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
12/30/2011 2:51:21 PM

Happy Friday Mike, and no, you did not bore anyone. Thanks for your thoughts and insights. Have a great day. :)

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10_1_136.gifReading is an interesting topic. When I began school, I was seted at the back of the class. I did not know it at the time, but I had a hearing problem. I ultimately did not pass the first year. When I would have an earache, my mother would scrape the inside of my ear with a bobbie pin saying that it would hurt a little, but that's all right. I was also held back in the fourth grade. Sitting in the back of the class. I might as well have been sitting on the dock of the bay. I would read the book in front of me rather than listen to the teacher, because I couldn't hear her anyway. One quick example. In the fourth grade we were given a math assignment. We were to do all the problems on page seven. As I had at times an echo in my ear, I heard page seventy. Page seven was two column addition while page seventy was four column mathe. I struggled, but when I turned in my math assignment I got an A+. I had every answer correct. Under that I received a big red O for failing to listen. When I showed my mother the paper, she told me that I was stupid because I didn't listen. I had asked my teacher on several occasions if I could sit closer to the front and she said that I did not have special privileges. Eventually, I would take books out of the library and study. I did this for the remainder of time that I was in school. However, I noticed something odd about our History books. The Native Americans were savages and the pilgrims were the good guys. While we were studying Early American History, I decided to check out some books written by Native Americans. As our teacher was explaining that the pilgrims were having a terrible time with some of the savages(Whereupon I said, "Whoa. Who were the savages?") and she said, "Why the Indians of course. They were killing the settlers that were trying to set up their new home." I responded, "Yes, but they were doing that by driving the Indians out of their villages." and she responded, "But they didn't belong there. That was our land." I laughed and replied, "So, as our forefathers travelled from the East Coast all the way to California killing the Indians that would not give up their land, the Indians that fought back were savages. Is that correct?" She smiled and said, "Now you understand."squawarrow.jpgI didn't. Later on that year we were reading about Ely Whitney and the Cotton Gin. I noticed that she had never made reference to his color, even though there was a picture of him in the book. Once again, I raised my hand. She rolled her eyes and said, "Yes Mister Caron, what is it?" I asked, "What color was Ely Whitney?" She droned out her answer, "Ely Whitney was white, which you would have know if you read the book."I laughed and said, "Evidently you didn't read the book or look at his picture. First, why would a white man invent a machine that would make things easier for the slaves to do their job?, and how many white men back then sported an Afro hair style. I don't believe they would have been liked very much by their peers." There were a couple of black students in the class who were the first to start laughing, and then everyone else chimed in. I got up, put my History book on her desk and said, "If you are not going to teach us the truth, I quit." I have always been very adamant on determining what is true and what is not. Sorry that O bored everyone.
GOD BLESS YOU
~Mike~

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