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Kathleen Vanbeekom

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RE: Ron Paul 2012 - Wins Again
12/6/2011 1:19:24 AM

The ION debate with Trump as one of the moderators will be televised in 99,000,000 homes...with more than one voter in lots of those homes! Plus it will be streamed online. Ron Paul has made a mistake if he's not there! Looks like Gingrich is Trump's fave:

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Gingrich-Trump-ION-Debate/2011/12/05/id/420008?s=al&promo_code=DA78-1

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RE: Ron Paul 2012 - Wins Again
12/6/2011 2:34:34 AM
Hello Michael,

Touche' I was beginning to wonder if any one else was seeing what I was. The Globalists are scared of Ron Paul because he has held his own on all the debates and going back many years he has stayed true to his sticking to what the Constitution says. They get the MSM to take his name down from the polls so their viewers don't see, but now more and more alternative medias are broadcasting these blatant removals and I see them on FB, Twitter and my other favourite social media vehicles.

Donald Trump has been a big disappointment to me because at first I did not see his double sided coat (turn coat) and to get in behind Newt Gingrich whom I do not like at all and is even worse character than Herman Cain.

I wonder what other 'dredge' they will pull out of the bottom of the barrel' to parade for the public to gauge our reactions?
All their candidates before, have flip flopped like fish on dry land.
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Donald Trump has said in the past he does not think Ron Paul has any hope of winning and has made a joke of his attempt to run for president.

Donald trump would have tried to play down Ron Paul's chances. Now Ron Paul is getting much more publicity and Donald Trump is getting what he deserves for not taking Ron Paul seriously.

Any publicity is good publicity if your Ron Paul..


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Ron Paul probably made the wrong decision on this...because Newt Gingrich already said Yes to this debate hosted by Donald Trump on Dec 27th. So what if Trump is what Ron Paul refers to as a "reality show host"? Ronald Reagan was an actor before becoming Prez! So why can't Donald Trump host a debate? He has the largest private-holdings in New York, over $9 billion worth of business holdings in 2010, he wasn't always a "reality show host", just for the past few years. If Ron Paul wants a chance to become President for a few years, he should be on every debate from now until the nominee is chosen.

http://conservativebyte.com/2011/12/ron-paul-says-no-to-trump-debate-and-disses-trump/

From Newsmax.com ...

<< Donald Trump’s organization is the largest privately held company in the New York metropolitan area.
The Trump Organization had estimated 2010 revenues of $9.2 billion, with 20,300 employees and interests in real estate development, hotels, casinos, golf courses, entertainment and product licensing, according to Crain’s New York Business.
The publication reported that it ranked New York-area companies that are “independent, privately held entities with no parent. Nonprofits, hospitals, mutual companies, travel agencies and partnerships — including accounting firms, law firms, and consulting firms — are excluded.”
The petrochemical firm Transammonia Inc. was second on the list with $8.4 billion in revenues last year. Also in the top 10 was business news provider Bloomberg LP (No. 4 with $6.9 billion). >>

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Kathleen Vanbeekom

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RE: Ron Paul 2012 - Wins Again
12/6/2011 3:51:53 AM

Ron Paul needs to be in the public eye all the time, he should take a lesson from Trump and Gingrich, and be everywhere every minute. The other candidates aren't on TV enough either, they all should be right in front of the American public at all times, because Newt Gingrich is, and Herman Cain was, and Donald Trump always is...that's the way to get ahead and stay ahead, Ron Paul needs to get out there and stay out there in public if he wants to maintain 2nd place ahead of Mitt Romney, because Mitt is just taking up space, and if Ron Paul does nothing, especially not doing this huge debate, Newt Gingrich will run away with the nomination without competition. (I'm a fan of Newt...not a Ron Paul fan, but Ron Paul needs to provide his own airtime if he wants to compete at all.)

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RE: Ron Paul 2012 - Wins Again
12/6/2011 4:23:19 AM

9/11 Newt Gingrich Recommended A Homeland Security Agency Led By FEMA In March 2001

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Newt wanted to restructure the US government outlined in the Constitution, that he swore to uphold and said he believed in, giving special terror authority to the Executive Branch before 9/11 based on terror attacks he thought of before they happened months later. Look who is running for president. Clip aired September 16, 2001.

Newt knew large scale terror was about to hit America, now vetted for the Executive branch he gave despotic secret authority to rule like a king under. It is critical you understand the post-9/11 government, it is not the America we were told about in US history. The DHS gives the president unconstitutional authority and power, eliminating the checks and balances, legally allowing unlawful engineered operations and secrecy under the guise of “security”. Newt wants to eliminate the laws against supporting terrorist … “so he can penetrate the cells” and work with our enemies staging covert terrorism and double agent spy back stabbing, treason under the laws he wants to change. This is how Obama can legally run Al-Qaeda in Libya and call them “rebels”. As Newt says “unsavory people” with human rights violations. Newt had planned much bigger terror attacks than 9/11 for the American people, he still got his biological attack. Newt impossibly predicted 9/11 and Anthrax months before they happened, and planned the anti-Constitutional response. Criminal traitors for president, vetted for the sheep to choose from. Newt Gingrich is a 9/11 terrorism benefactor, add him to the top suspect list. Knewt had it all planned out before 9/11, a real Constitution hating militant communist subversive American traitor. Hyndsight is 20/20. He knew and said too much before it happened to be innocent.

Road Map for National Security: Imperative for Change …. February 15, 2001

The combination of unconventional weapons proliferation with the persistence of international terrorism will end the relative invulnerability of the U.S. homeland to catastrophic attack. A direct attack against American citizens on American soil is likely over the next quarter century. The risk is not only death and destruction but also a demoralization that could undermine U.S. global leadership. In the face of this threat, our nation has no coherent or integrated governmental structures.

We therefore recommend the creation of an independent National Homeland Security Agency (NHSA) with responsibility for planning, coordinating, and integrating various U.S. government activities involved in homeland security. NHSA would be built upon the Federal Emergency Management Agency, with the three organizations currently on the front line of border security—the Coast Guard, the Customs Service, and the Border Patrol—transferred to it. NHSA would not only protect American lives, but also assume responsibility for overseeing the protection of the nation’s critical infrastructure, including information technology.

The NHSA Director would have Cabinet status and would be a statutory advisor to the National Security Council. The legal foundation for the National Homeland Security Agency would rest firmly within the array of Constitutional guarantees for civil liberties. The observance of these guarantees in the event of a national security emergency would be safeguarded by NHSA’s interagency coordinating activities—which would include the Department of Justice—as well as by its conduct of advance exercises. The potentially catastrophic nature of homeland attacks necessitates our being prepared to use the extensive resources of the Department of Defense (DoD). We recommend that a new office of Assistant Secretary for Homeland Security be created to oversee DoD activities in this domain and to ensure that the necessary resources are made available. New priorities also need to be set for the U.S. armed forces in light of the threat to the homeland. We urge, in particular, that the National Guard be given homeland security as a primary mission, as the U.S. Constitution itself ordains. The National Guard should be reorganized, trained, and equipped to undertake that mission. Finally, we recommend that Congress reorganize itself to accommodate this Executive Branch realignment, and that it also form a special select committee for homeland security to provide Congressional support and oversight in this critical area.

Research it: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/nssg/

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RE: Ron Paul 2012 - Wins Again
12/7/2011 1:54:37 AM

Ron Paul has 3 weeks to change his mind and be at that debate, because SOMEONE is going to be the nominee, and most likely the person who's in the public eye the most. Choosing NOT to be in front of over 100,000,000 viewers is a bad choice. Ron Paul is only saying NO because he doesn't like Donald Trump or doesn't take him seriously as a moderator, he's going to have to set that dislike aside, considering if he wants to be President, he'll have to be in the same room talking to lots of people he won't like for 4 to 8 years.

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