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Joyce Parker Hyde

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RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES?
9/5/2014 9:03:31 PM
No need to apologize Miguel, your statement was a broad one and my comment was meant to address the constant blaming on a single person for situations that could not possibly be caused by one person. Even when a single world leader initiates a blatant action it is still the culmination of generations of decisions and resentments that have festered over centuries.
I think that those in office are doing what they can do under restraints that we can't know everything about, negotiations are delicate and the name calling and bad mouthing that we see does little to bring calm to anything.
Your posts are well reasoned and thought out and I do not see that in your words.
So keep up your work, it is well received.
You know, Natalya Restivo really should be a part of this conversation. She is the most well versed and intelligent person on this topic and has a close up view of the situation.
I hope you can get her to join and shed more light.
The discussion here is very valuable in my opinion.
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RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES?
9/5/2014 11:33:30 PM

Thank you Joyce, your words are balmic in nature to my troubled soul. I am afraid I will never forget the recent events and particularly the hundreds of kids and women killed during the Gaza war.

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RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES?
9/5/2014 11:52:31 PM

As to Natalya Restivo, she brought to my facebook page important input on the Ukraine crisis, most of it on Putin's attitude. I don't know if she is aware of this forum of mine.



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RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES?
9/6/2014 12:00:41 AM

NATO approves new force aimed at deterring Russia

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Crises in Ukraine, Iraq hang over NATO summit



NEWPORT, Wales (AP) — Seeking to counter Russian aggression, NATO leaders approved plans Friday to create a rapid response force with a headquarters in Eastern Europe that could quickly mobilize if an alliance country in the region were to come under attack.

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said a command headquarters would be set up in Eastern Europe with supplies and equipment stockpiled there, enabling the "spearhead" force to mobilize and deploy quickly.

"It sends a clear message to any potential aggressor: Should you even think of attacking one ally, you will be facing the whole alliance," Rasmussen declared as a two-day NATO summit in southern Wales drew to a close.

NATO air patrol flights over the Baltic and other air, land and naval measures already in place will be extended indefinitely, Rasmussen said, as part of a readiness package that also calls for upgraded intelligence-sharing and more short-term military exercises.

President Barack Obama said the agreement demonstrated that NATO is "fully united" behind Ukraine's independence, territorial sovereignty and right to self-defense. He said all 28 NATO allies will now be providing security assistance to Ukraine, such as non-lethal equipment, fuel and medical care for troops.

"This commitment makes clear that NATO will not be complacent," Obama said just before returning to Washington.

Moscow responded by claiming that NATO was using the crisis in Ukraine as pretext to advance a longstanding goal to move its infrastructure closer to Russia's borders. In a statement, Russia's foreign ministry said it was studying the NATO announcements, but warned that the alliance's plans to conduct joint exercises in Ukraine later this year will "inevitably aggravate tensions, jeopardize the progress that has been made in the peace process in Ukraine and exacerbate the split in Ukrainian society."

Confronting another pressing international crisis, Rasmussen said NATO stands "ready to help" Iraq fight back against a violent militant group, but noted that the Iraqi government has not made any such request. Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron have been pressing their NATO counterparts to join a coalition of nations that could degrade militants from the Islamic State group.

The threat posed by the Islamic State overshadowed some of the NATO summit's official agenda. Yet the leaders still spent a considerable amount of their time discussing the crisis in Ukraine, with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko taking on a high-profile role during the talks.

The summit coincided with the declaration of a cease-fire that emerged Friday out of talks in Minsk, Belarus involving Ukraine, Russia and pro-Russian rebels. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said he ordered government forces to stop hostilities, nearly five months after fighting broke out in the nation's restive east.

"I count on this agreement, including the ceasing of fire and the freeing of hostages, to be precisely observed," Poroshenko said.

Yet Western leaders remained skeptical that any such cease-fire would hold. The U.S. and Europe, meanwhile, have warned that they stand ready to levy more economic sanctions on Russia — a step a top White House official said could occur within days.

The crisis in Ukraine has been among the most pressing issues on the agenda during the summit. While Ukraine is not an alliance member, Russia's actions have prompted fears among NATO member countries in Central and Eastern Europe that the Kremlin could seek to make gains beyond their borders as well.

Rasmussen said the high-readiness force would give NATO a "continuous presence" in Eastern Europe, with alliance countries contributing forces on a rotational basis. There were no final decisions on where the forces would be based, but Rasmussen said Poland, Romania and the Baltics have all indicated a willingness to host the facilities.

"We must be able to act more swiftly," said Cameron, the British leader.

In another signal of its commitment to protecting its members in Eastern Europe, NATO announced that its next summit will be held in Warsaw, Poland, in 2016. Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski praised the alliance's willingness to boost its presence in the region, calling it "a matter of key importance to Poland's security."

On the sidelines of the summit, Cameron and Obama were also meeting with their counterparts to rally support for a mission to confront the Islamic State through military might, diplomatic efforts and economic penalties. Obama met Friday with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a key regional player whose support would be crucial to defeating the militants. Cameron also planned to meet with Erdogan.

Obama also met Friday with French President Francois Hollande.

Rasmussen suggested that NATO was unlikely to take imminent military action against the militants in Iraq, but said he could foresee the alliance engaging in a "defense capacity-building mission" there.

The U.S. is already launching airstrikes against the Islamic State in Iraq, and Britain has joined for humanitarian aid drops to besieged minority groups. Obama is weighing whether to extend the military mission into neighboring Syria, where the extremists have establisheed a safe haven.

On other fronts, alliance leaders pressed NATO countries to follow through on commitments to spend 2 percent of their nations' gross domestic product on defense. Only four NATO nations meet that threshold: the U.S., Britain, Greece and Estonia.

Komorowski said Poland would raise its defense budget to 2 percent of GDP in 2016 and would encourage other members to increase defense spending as well.

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Associated Press writers Monika Scislowska in Warsaw, Poland, and Lynn Berry in Moscow contributed to this report.

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NATO approves new plan to deter Russia



The alliance will create a rapid response force to ease anxiety among member states near Russia's border.
Several thousand troops



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RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES?
9/6/2014 12:00:51 AM
Miguel, I am not political and I know that my point of view is often naive and comes from a place of 'how it ought to be'.
Wars are never fought for the benefit of the people fighting them but always (it seems to me) for the benefit of those who will profit and fill their coffers or stoke their egos.
My world view is somewhat limited so I base my remarks on what I see here in the states and it just seems like the ideal that was America has been lost.
Politicians are no longer statesmen working for the good of the country but only for the next election so they say what their constituents want to hear them say-even if they have to make it up.
In my short time of awareness, I have seen that very few men who have held the office of president have been good at both foreign and domestic policy. They used to be able to depend on their congress to help in areas where they fell short.
Having endured a government willing to shut down completely in order to make the president fail rather than co-operate to move the country forward it is like sitting in a boat watching one party shoot holes in the bottom and watching all of if sink to unrecoverable depths.
I can only surmise that this is what is going on on a world wide scale and just wish that people would wake up and decide that this isn't working for anybody.
I don't know the politics of any of it but I suspect that neither do the people in charge.

I am exceptionally happy that there is an undercurrent of peace and love that survives in some of us in spite if all of that.
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