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B J 3175 73 Boston	RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES? 9/5/2014 3:36:19 PM
	Hi, Joyce... very long time. hope all has been very good for you! I agree with you that a lot of time is wasted with finger-pointing. No one person is responsible for the mess in which the world finds itself. Finger-pointing does nothing but breed more contention and serves no one but the perpetrators who are looking for scapegoats. Doing what one can to actually help in a positive way would be a better activity....
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Joyce 808 1967 New Or...	RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES? 9/5/2014 4:05:42 PM
	Hey BJ-Great to see you as well. I'm good-family good everybody healthy-kitties happy-who can ask for more?
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Luis Miguel 1162 61587 Lima	RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES? 9/5/2014 5:39:06 PM
	I am so very sorry dear friends, now I realize I shouldn't have pointed any finger at the U.S. "and its NATO allies" for "most of the mess we see in the world at present." Indeed, no generalization can be good. For example, who is to blame for the children killed in the Gaza war? Even if my finger wants to point at Netanyahu, many will take a less oversimplified position and blame Israel and Hamas both. Even so, the U.S. does not seem to have had any part in it. But then, we could similarly blame President Obama for the messy world we live in as he should not have had the U.S withdraw from Iraq; and we would be making sense. After all, he did not "end" any war with it. At any rate, he emboldened the enemy and now we have the IS brutality in Iraq and Syria. And not only there: aaccording to a recent Rand study, between 2010 and 2013 there was a 58% increase in the number of Salafi-jihadist terror groups around the world. During that same period, the number of terrorists doubled. In Obama's defense we can argue that he has been well-intentioned all along, but then we would have to point our fingers at his predecessor Bush, who virtually create an artificial Iraq. Or forget all about any individual blame and say it is in the nature of time to provoke the decadence and fall of all big Empires as the world history attests. We are now at a juncture in time where the end of this Dark Age is close at hand and there is a New, Golden Age awaiting around the corner. Miguel
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Hafiz 226 791 Dhaka	RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES? 9/5/2014 5:47:45 PM
	You are right. We should not point to a individual person. And actually this pointing will not do any help at all. But...... Someone has to take the responsibilities. If I control 10 people and you control 1000 people, both responsibilities will not be same. And the effect of any mistake done by both will not be same. Quote: I am so very sorry dear friends, now I realize I shouldn't have pointed any finger at the U.S. "and its NATO allies" for "most of the mess we see in the world at present." Indeed, no generalization can be good. For example, who is to blame for the children killed in the Gaza war? Even if my finger wants to point at Netanyahu, many will take a less oversimplified position and blame Israel and Hamas both. Even so, the U.S. does not seem to have had any part in it. But then, we could similarly blame President Obama for the messy world we live in as he should not have had the U.S withdraw from Iraq; and we would be making sense. After all, he did not "end" any war with it. At any rate, he emboldened the enemy and now we have the IS brutality in Iraq and Syria. And not only there: aaccording to a recent Rand study, between 2010 and 2013 there was a 58% increase in the number of Salafi-jihadist terror groups around the world. During that same period, the number of terrorists doubled. In Obama's defense we can argue that he has been well-intentioned all along, but then we would have to point our fingers at his predecessor Bush, who virtually create an artificial Iraq. Or forget all about any individual blame and say it is in the nature of time to provoke the decadence and fall of all big Empires as the world history attests. We are now at a juncture in time where the end of this Dark Age is close at hand and there is a New, Golden Age awaiting around the corner. Miguel
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Luis Miguel 1162 61587 Lima	RE: ARE WE NOW IN THE END TIMES? 9/5/2014 6:40:06 PM
	China Backs Putin’s Ukraine Peace Proposal Posted by Stephen Cook on September 5, 2014 US President Barack Obama (right), German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko (left) deep in discussion in Wales during the 2014 Nato summit on 4 September 2014 [Image: Ukraine Presidency] From BRICSPost, September 5, 2014 – http://tinyurl.com/lfffvjm Even as Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said European allies are considering “short-term non-lethal military assistance” and in the medium term “considering civil and military capacity building assistance” to Ukraine, Beijing has said there can be no military solution to the conflict. On Thursday, China put its weight solidly behind Russian President Vladimir Putin’s seven-point peace plan for Ukraine, with the first step being an immediate ceasefire between separatist rebels and Ukrainian forces. “We have acknowledged President Vladimir Putin’s seven-point plan, and hope this proposal can facilitate a more political solution to the tensions,” said Qin Gang, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman. China reiterated its stance on a political solution for the conflict between Russia and Ukraine in a Foreign Ministry press briefing. “China has urged Russia and Ukraine to reach a ceasefire deal, and start inclusive dialogue for a political solution to the Ukraine crisis,” said Gang. During a bilateral meeting on the sidelines of the 6th BRICS Summit in July in Brazil, Chinese President Xi Jinping had said Moscow and Beijing will intensify “political support to each other”. During the meet, Putin said he and Xi are “personally pushing forward the bilateral cooperation”. The China-Russia Energy Cooperation Committee said last week it is laying the groundwork for a Xi-Putin summit in October. Meanwhile, Putin said he expected Ukraine and the separatists to reach an agreement after fresh talks on Friday in Minsk, Belarus. “The only thing we need now for peace and stability is just two main things: first, that Russia withdraw their troops, and second, to close the border,” said Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko after talks with NATO leaders on Thursday. Moscow denies Russian troops are present in Ukraine. UN figures say the violence in eastern Ukraine has killed over 2,600 people and rendered 340,000 homeless.
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