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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/31/2010 9:34:56 PM
Welcome back John,

Goodwill and Love doesn't seem to bring back the thousands lost to their expansion across the globe, and yes I am sure there are those that will say the same about America.

I have to ask when do you believe is the right time to recognize and address the threat?
  • After a close family member becomes victim?
  • After a bus, train or airport station is decimated and more casualties ensue?
  • I hope you paid attention the the words of CAIR organization that has set up office here funding and supporting the insurgency against our troops? Quote:
    “Islamisn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to becomedominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be thehighest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.” ~ Omar M. Ahmad – Co-founder of CAIR
  • Exactly how many homicide bombers must endured before we take a stand.?
  • When their stated goals are the annihilation of the western world and the complete destruction of our Jewish friends and allies occur?
  • How about when their numbers are so great here that they do as they are in the UK?
Be aware I believe we should not have gone into Iraq as the struggle is internal and in my view a "Civil War".


Would any of these scenarios be the time to defend our country, our people, our home, our beliefs, our families and our religions?

Or do you prefer we all convert and become Dhimmis within their society and forsake our own heritage and the "Venus Project" our forefathers left us?

John, we are at those crossroads where we must decide to stand and defend ourselves or cease existing as a sovereign nation of free people.

We have been infiltrated at all levels of our society, even within our own government and maybe even our administration. Because we have been tolerant and showed goodwill and love.

When is the time?


Do we address and discuss these threats now when there may truly be peaceable solutions, or at the very least we have the ability to defend ourselves by securing our borders, becoming more self reliant and less dependent on foreign imports, both in products and labor.

Isn't now the time to be voicing our concerns and making our elected officials hear our pleas or replace them with ones that will?

Should we continue to be tolerant of those that find us so intolerable?

What is your real and true heartfelt suggestion/s?.


You see, I have children and grand children and these questions and questions about my own governments direction are things that concern me. I find discussing, discerning and addressing these issues are key to the future.

I do know their future should not be what we see in those countries where these people's leaders rule with iron fists and starve their own, while they live in the lap of luxury. I do not accept that we have to degrade our standards to uplift others, that continue accept a life as chattel instead of humans with goals, dreams and desires of our own making. Not granted by some monarch, tyrant or oligarch.

Jim

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Hello again Jim and thank you for the warm welcome.

I agree with a lot of what you said to me in your reply, but I just want to add that more is accomplished by the spreading of Goodwill then there is by strong and decisive words. I know that you are just trying to open our eyes to the thread of radical Islam but again I repeat that the best thing we can do is try to win over Muslims with Goodwill and Love. Good will triumph over evil; our hearts just have to be in the right place when dealing with a thread. God will be behind those whose hearts are good and sincere. Take care! :-)

Sincerely,
John R. Sanchez

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/31/2010 9:37:28 PM
Aha! When the shoe is on the other foot with regards to misrepresentation of facts you get your ire up to? Interesting when your belief system is called into question with manufactured claims and sensationalism. Very interesting.

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What did Pope John Paul ll do in Poland during World War 2?

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In 1938 Karol Wojtyla started studying in the University Jagiellonski,which was closed down in the beginning of the World War 2 by theGermans. He then worked in a quarry (1940-1944) and in the "Solvay"chemical factory in order to avoid being deported to Germany. DuringWW2 Karol Wojtyla was also studying in a secret Catholic seminary andwas active in an "underground liberation movement" in a "RhapsodyTheatre".

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_did_Pope_John_Paul_ll_do_in_Poland_during_World_War_2

There's one.

Personal attacks? I believe you have been doing that from the beginning, discreetly for sure, but noticeable to the discerning eye.

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Where does it say that John Paul II was selling gas to Nazis to poison Jews?

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/31/2010 11:26:49 PM
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Aha! When the shoe is on the other foot with regards to misrepresentation of facts you get your ire up to? Interesting when your belief system is called into question with manufactured claims and sensationalism. Very interesting.

Jim

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What did Pope John Paul ll do in Poland during World War 2?

Answer

In 1938 Karol Wojtyla started studying in the University Jagiellonski,which was closed down in the beginning of the World War 2 by theGermans. He then worked in a quarry (1940-1944) and in the "Solvay"chemical factory in order to avoid being deported to Germany. DuringWW2 Karol Wojtyla was also studying in a secret Catholic seminary andwas active in an "underground liberation movement" in a "RhapsodyTheatre".

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_did_Pope_John_Paul_ll_do_in_Poland_during_World_War_2

There's one.

Personal attacks? I believe you have been doing that from the beginning, discreetly for sure, but noticeable to the discerning eye.

Thanks,
Jim Allen III

Where does it say that John Paul II was selling gas to Nazis to poison Jews?

Bogdan


Jim,

This is my last post to you and one which will have some effects to be felt.

First in regards to your conspiracy theory that John Paul II has been selling poison gas to kill Jews.

I found two additional source in addition to the one you provide me with.

One was David Malmo-Levine.
He is a young punk who takes drags, paints hair flaming red and looks for attention.
The other one is Tony Alamo an Evangelist who has been accused of child molestation

(CNN) — Federal and state police raided an evangelist’scompound in Arkansas late Saturday to investigate whether any childrenhave been physically or sexually abused, officials said.

So, so far your sources about this are .

1. Tax evader, who hid $1 mln from IRS.
2. Child molester
3. Punk and drug user.

If you had any understanding of reality and how second world war looked in Poland, you would know that after defeating Poland (Germans from West and Russions from East), Poland has been divided in two areas. German and Russian. Those who were in the German part were rounded up and forced to work to build German war machine. They were not asked to do that, they were forced and nobody paid them any salary, so there would be no salesmen but forced workers who were paid with food rations. There was no official currency during this period. Some people were transported to Germany (like my uncle) and worked there in factories and farms and some never returned back. Virtually entire polish population was working for Germans while being occupied between 1939 and 1945. Nobody had the choice of not working if they were in the appropriate age range. Amongst this population there were 3 mln Jews.


Your story is part of the poison which you are spreading here now for several years.
One of the reasons why I have joined your forum was that I was alerted by some members about this thread and also have been told that you and your friend Peter were harassing some people in the other forums.

I was hoping that I will be able to present some kind of reason in your forum and actually convince myself about what people were saying about you two.
Believe me I convinced myself. I don't regret this though.

I could show to many viewers of this forum some of the truth they were not aware of.
I have also understood what it means to be attacked by two of you and that there is no reasoning which works for you.

Two of you have driven many involved community members out of here, and you have wounded two programs which we had running for all community members. This were POTW and BFA. Those who were running those forums, were accused of taking bribes, for being wrong with everything and so on.

I have decided that I won't be taking this anymore.
This community can go well without two of you, probably even better.

So you have each of you one more strike.

If you insult, attack any members of this community and I either notice that or are being notified about it, you are gone from here permanently.

Again this is my last post here and my advice to you is to adhere to this community terms if you have any interests in continuing being here.

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/31/2010 11:51:43 PM
Hmmmm, Nazi's , Communists, and Extreme Radical Muslim Groups.

America has fought them all and so have our good Canadian Forces.

Evil is evil under any banner.

'Nuf said.
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We are losing because we are at work -- and they are at war.
2/1/2010 12:58:54 AM
More enlightenment from around the world related to the topic of this thread. Four years old but a very interesting last statement.

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"We are losing because we are at work -- and they are at war.""

By Country / Russia

Russia: Slavic Converts To Radical Islam Pose New Threat

August 25, 2006
By Victor Yasmann

Victimsof the February 2004 Moscow subway blast, which authorities believe wasorganized by Slavic converts to radical Islam (official site)

PRAGUE,August 25, 2006 (RFE/RL) -- Russian investigators probing terrorismcases in the North Caucasus have noted a growing number of ethnic Slavsamong the perpetrators of such acts.

Thepro-Kremlin daily "Komsomolskaya pravda" published on August 16-19 aninvestigative report claiming that more than half the members of arecently liquidated terrorist group in Karachayevo-Cherkessia wereRussians or Ukrainians.

Terrrorist Attacks Across Russia

Basedon the testimony of three surviving members of the group, calledKarachai Jamaat, the investigation believes the network was responsiblefor three explosions in Krasnodar in August 2003, in which three peoplewere killed and 30 wounded; an explosion in the Moscow metro inFebruary 2004, in which 40 were killed and 134 wounded; and anexplosion in the Moscow metro in August 2004, in which 10 were killedand 51 wounded.

"Weunderestimate the danger and know we are losing," the special-forceshero of the hit Russian television broadcast "Anti-Killer" told acolleague in a recent episode. "We are losing because we are at work --and they are at war."

The investigation alsocredited the Karachai Jamaat with three explosions at bus stops inVoronezh and with planting bombs on passenger trains in Mineralnye Vodyin 2004 and 2005, as a result of which several hundred people werekilled or injured.

Not Your Stereotypical Terrorists

Neitherthe Slavic nor the non-Slavic members of the jamaat fit thestereotypical image of Islamic fundamentalists. Most were well-educatedand well-off, enjoying high social and professional status. They didnot seem the type of men who would put their lives and position at riskfor mere money.

One of the arrested members of jamaat,Lieutenant Colonel Murat Shateyev, was an ethnic Daghestani who servedin Russia's Justice Ministry. Shateyev, who had two degrees, allegedlycarried an explosive in his car and used his authority to help protectmembers of his ring from arrest. His brother, Azret, allegedly also anactive member of the group, was a leading tuberculosis specialist at aMoscow hospital and co-owner of a pharmacy.

The Slavicmembers of the group were devoted Muslims who chose to enter the ranksof militant Islam. As sign of their dedication to the cause, theyreportedly destroyed their identification documents and adopted Muslimnames.

Among them were ethnic Ukrainian Vitaly Zagorulko,an officer in Russia's Interior Ministry and a graduate of the RostovHigh Militia School, and police colleagues Viktor Semchenko, a Russian,and David Fotov. Another alleged Karachai Jamaat member was a formerRussian paratrooper, Yury Menovshchikov, and Russian Army veteran IvanManarin, an ethnic Russian. All but Manarin, who is now under arrest,were killed in fighting with federal special forces.

UkrainianNikolai Kipkeyev, who rose to the rank of amir, is believed to havebeen the leader of the Slavic members of the group.

Officials investigating an explosion at a Voronezh bus stop on January 26, 2005 (TASS)

Kipkeyevallegedly organized the August 2004 bombing of the Rizhskaya metrostation in Moscow, which was carried out by a female suicide bomber.Kipkeyev, who was on site to monitor his subordinate's work, was killedin the blast.

All members of the group allegedly fought with theresistance in Chechnya, and were tied to Chechen militants via SyrianArab Akhmed Sambiyev, one of the leaders of the Wahhabi underground inChechnya. Sambiyev blew himself up in 2005 when FSB agents surroundedhim.

According to "Komsomolskaya pravda," the ethnicRussian members of the Karachai Jamaat were inspired by a radicalWahhabi interpretation of the Koran that is banned in Russia on thegrounds that it promotes intolerance toward "infidels."

Ali(Vyacheslav) Polosin, a former Russian Orthodox priest who converted toIslam, told "Komsomolskaya pravda": "Islam is a religion ofrevolutionaries. [But] revolutionary ideas can be easily transformedinto terrorist ideas. It is enough to slightly change theinterpretation, and in the name of their ideals people will commit notcrimes, but feats."

Looking For A New Ideology

Russiais now home to about 20 million Muslims, and some researchers believethe "revolutionary factor of Islam" will play a decisive role inRussia's evolution toward democracy.

Mikhail Delyagin,director of the Institute of Globalization and a former adviser toRussian prime ministers Mikhail Kasyanov and Yevgeny Primakov, wrote inhis best-selling book "Russia After Putin" that fundamentalist Islamwill seriously challenge Russia's ruling political class andbureaucracy in the future.

In the Muslim regions of theSoviet Union, Islam was more of a cultural phenomenon. The ideologicalvacuum formed after the collapse of the USSR resulted in Islam beingthe best tool available to elites in those regions for forging a newnational identity, according to Delyagin.

Islam, as a result, was often transformed from a cultural factor into a political tool.

Youthsoften do not follow the interpretation of Islam professed by officialIslamic clerics, who like their Russian Orthodox counterparts call forcooperation with the Kremlin. Younger adherents often choose a moreextremist paths, many of which have no relation to real Wahhabism.

Theoften-brutal tactics of federal troops during the Chechen wars havealso served to aid the expansion of radical Islam throughout NorthCaucasus.

"The enduring war in Chechnya not onlyqualitatively changed Chechnya and the North Caucasus, but all ofRussian Islam, " Delyagin wrote.

Islam -- The New Marxism

Delyaginoffered two explanations for why Slavic nationals might be attracted toradical Islam. Islam, he says, now plays the role that Marxism didduring the Soviet era. Marxism once offered young people a sense thatthey were contributing to a universal ideal, and in many ways Islam isplaying that role now. Also, Delyagin argues that Islam provides afeeling of transcendence over everyday life -- filling another voidleft by the collapse of Marxism.

In short, militant Islammay provide Slavic converts a feeling of purpose they find lacking inmodern society or in the teachings of traditional Christianity.

Theexpansion of radical Islam poses a serious challenge for Russiansecurity agencies, and this problem is compounded by the activities ofSlavic converts as terrorist activity spreads increasingly fromChechnya and the North Caucasus to Moscow and other Russian cities.

And the Kremlin does no know how to confront this threat.

"Weunderestimate the danger and know we are losing," the special-forceshero of the hit Russian television broadcast "Anti-Killer" told acolleague in a recent episode. "We are losing because we are at work --and they are at war."

Profound isn't it?

Jim

A Side note with the same above article:

THE COMING MUSLIM MAJORITY: On February 28, Russia expert PAUL GOBLE,vice dean of social sciences and humanities at Concordia-AudentesUniversity in Tallinn, Estonia, gave a briefing at RFE/RL's Washingtonoffice. Goble said ethographers predict Russia will have a Muslimmajority "within our lifetime." Since 1989, Russia's Muslim populationhas increased by 40 percent, Goble said, rising to some 25 millionself-declared Muslims. He said 2.5 million to 3.5 million Muslims nowlive in Moscow, gving Moscow the largest Muslim population of any cityin Europe. Russia today has more than 8,000 mosques, up from just 300in 1991. By 2010, experts predict, some 40 percent of Russianmilitary conscripts will be Muslims.
Goble noted that thesechanges have been accompanied by a "rising tide" of anti-Muslimprejudice. Public-opinion surveys reveal that up to "70 percent ofethnic Russians" express sympathy with xenophobic slogans. Goble warnedthat heavy-handed state efforts to "contain Islam" could backfire andcause groups to move underground, "radicalizing people who are not yetradicalized."

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