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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/20/2010 8:44:27 PM
This is automated translation from Polish to English, but it gives you some idea.
I believe that more initiatives like this will take away arguments from Oligarchs at least for some time and it will make the middle-east conflict the conflict of the past. It will also remove all the arguments from the global warming scammers.

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/20/2010 10:06:18 PM
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Hi Bogdan,

After reading Anton's last post here I decided to make a final contribution to this thread since it's turning into another rah rah thread and I normally don't participate in threads of that kind. But when I saw that you're buying into the "compliments" in that post I decided one last post is in order. Illusions of grandeur is a wonderful thing isn't it??

BTW, that post reminded me of the praise a past member lavished on you many a time in a similar manner, style, prose and content that it sorta makes me wonder if she isn't back in a different guise and persona? Especially when they are both from the same part of the world and tell very similar stories about their parents and children. But, who cares it's not really all that important aside from the obvious similarities and inexplicable appearance of this entity in Adland and its participation in Jim's thread only.

Your condescending opening in your post was interesting cos you really believe that you are proving me wrong. Unfortunately it only proves what I wrote a while ago that you haven't proved anything yet and that you're not going to convince me to accept your opinions and the same goes for me with the difference that Radical Islam is a fact and your conspiracy theories are just that theories.

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Shalom,

Peter


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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/20/2010 11:37:34 PM
Hello Peter,

We aren't the only ones paying attention.

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Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie 'Munich' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard, and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.


Ina lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know -- but that our government has not yet shared with us.

He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed, and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. Unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.

Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.


Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. Will occur within the next few months.


Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people on board will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke --that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.

For example:

1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.

2)He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire.Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids onboard. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked!

Every strategy we have is reactionary.

3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.

Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in thefuture, they will target busy times on the front endof the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-inline, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel, security checks bagsBEFORE people can even ENTER the airport.


Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (I.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos,big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc.,as well as, rural America this time. The interlands (Wyoming,Montana,etc.).

The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities,including rural areas.

Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many ofthe larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas,they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.


Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles,but that our U. S. Government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts. The world is quickly going to become 'a different place',and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant.

On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It's cheap,it's easy, it's effective;and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'.


He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be,instead,'homegrown', having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. He says to look for 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East.These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't know/understand a thing about them.

Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will inevitably face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON.

So,what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's,Ireland's and England's hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to pay attention to, and trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks 'we can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake.

Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities.The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to checkit out. In fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal the briefcase!

In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves.


Unfortunately,America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who are, inevitably,the best first-line of defense against terrorism.

Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. (In New York City, this was days, in some cases!)

He stressesthe importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your family, of how to respond in the event of a terrorist emergency.He urges parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools too, develop plans of actions, just as they doing Israel.

Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone?Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan, that in the event of another terrorist

attack, Everyone's ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc.,will immediately be cut-off, as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated.

How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak to each other? You need to have a plan.

If you understand, and believe what you have just read, then you must feel compelled to send this to every concerned parent,guardian,grandparents, uncles, aunts, whomever. Don't stop there. In addition to sharing this via e-mail, contact and discuss this information with whomever it makes sense to. Make contingency plans with those you care about. Better that you have plans in place, and never have to use them,then to have no plans in place, and find you needed them.

If you choose not to share this, or not to have a plan in place,and nothing ever occurs -- good for you! However, in the event something does happen, and even moreso, if it directly affects your loved ones,then this e-mail will haunt you forever.

Telling yourself after the fact, "I should have sent this to so and so, but deleted it as so much trash from old Bill Jones, plus, I just didn't believe it", will not change anything. You were alerted, had the chance to do something, and instead of erring on the side of caution,you chose to disregard it, if nothing else, a sensible, valuablewarning.

Thanks Linda Harvey http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2383672/AdvicefromanIsraeliAgentinterestingandinformativeI.aspx

May Wisdom and the knowledge you gained go with you,



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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/21/2010 2:02:19 AM

Hello Friends,

A while back I posted the following on the 912 Coalition website and in light of the conversation thought, I should bring here as well.

I received the following videos from my friend Jake Jacob and it has made me wonder if folks actually know the difference between a Democracy and a Republic.

In casual conversations as a small test, I have found most people believe the USA is a Democracy, when asked the following question

" Is the USA a Democracy or a Republic and/or what is the difference?"

Most will answer a Democracy and few will know the difference between the two.

For those that may not be sure the following series of videos. Provides a real good basic understanding and may even answer a few questions for some.

I look forward to your answers and discussion.

Here is the first Video


Here is Video number two:


Getting real interesting isn't it?

And now Video number three:


Now that you have watched all three. Here are two simple questions:

"Which do you choose? Democracy or a Republic"

"Did you make that same choice on November 4th, 2008?"

Because we are at the Crossroads!


May Wisdom and the knowledge you gained go with you,



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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/21/2010 7:17:05 AM
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Hello Peter,

We aren't the only ones paying attention.

Quote:


Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie 'Munich' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard, and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.


Ina lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know -- but that our government has not yet shared with us.

He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed, and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. Unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.

Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.


Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. Will occur within the next few months.


Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people on board will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke --that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.

For example:

1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.

2)He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire.Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids onboard. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked!

Every strategy we have is reactionary.

3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.

Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in thefuture, they will target busy times on the front endof the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-inline, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel, security checks bagsBEFORE people can even ENTER the airport.


Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (I.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos,big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc.,as well as, rural America this time. The interlands (Wyoming,Montana,etc.).

The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities,including rural areas.

Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many ofthe larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas,they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.


Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles,but that our U. S. Government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts. The world is quickly going to become 'a different place',and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant.

On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It's cheap,it's easy, it's effective;and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'.


He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be,instead,'homegrown', having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. He says to look for 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East.These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't know/understand a thing about them.

Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will inevitably face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON.

So,what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's,Ireland's and England's hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to pay attention to, and trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks 'we can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake.

Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities.The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to checkit out. In fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal the briefcase!

In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves.


Unfortunately,America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who are, inevitably,the best first-line of defense against terrorism.

Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. (In New York City, this was days, in some cases!)

He stressesthe importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your family, of how to respond in the event of a terrorist emergency.He urges parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools too, develop plans of actions, just as they doing Israel.

Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone?Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan, that in the event of another terrorist

attack, Everyone's ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc.,will immediately be cut-off, as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated.

How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak to each other? You need to have a plan.

If you understand, and believe what you have just read, then you must feel compelled to send this to every concerned parent,guardian,grandparents, uncles, aunts, whomever. Don't stop there. In addition to sharing this via e-mail, contact and discuss this information with whomever it makes sense to. Make contingency plans with those you care about. Better that you have plans in place, and never have to use them,then to have no plans in place, and find you needed them.

If you choose not to share this, or not to have a plan in place,and nothing ever occurs -- good for you! However, in the event something does happen, and even moreso, if it directly affects your loved ones,then this e-mail will haunt you forever.

Telling yourself after the fact, "I should have sent this to so and so, but deleted it as so much trash from old Bill Jones, plus, I just didn't believe it", will not change anything. You were alerted, had the chance to do something, and instead of erring on the side of caution,you chose to disregard it, if nothing else, a sensible, valuablewarning.

Thanks Linda Harvey http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2383672/AdvicefromanIsraeliAgentinterestingandinformativeI.aspx



"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny."
(A. Solzhenitsyn)


Jim ,

I know you will miss my rah rah posts :), but this one really would be the last here.
A many things posted here can`t be qualified as objective and worthy of being read, at least, twice.
But this one quoted here, rather is a diagnose than a plain information.

Your society is running directly into a collective psychosis. Learning all what is here advised to learn, the food and all other elementary needs would be forgotten. And the day when USA masses will UNDERSTAND what a real terrorist has done, 90 % will suffer due to poverty. Your friends and a compassionate people world wide, when would like to donate you a food or anything, wouldn`t be able to do that (would be prohibited, for a real terrorist needs your hunger, but still you can`t understand why and how) .....

If you ask me if anything is good here, yes, something can be found.
Still you sustained the need to fight against people.

Next phase of this collective insanity will be more dangerous.
Fight with UFO terrorists :).

Peter,

I do not like compliments. In my opinion and understanding, compliments are "instruments" of courtesy & kindness, and I avoid to be "kind to anyone" if I am not sincere in my words.
So, what I told in my several posts here, was just a description of what I see.

Sorry , I really can`t do the same for anyone else here. As I told you, I DISLIKE COMPLIMENTS :) .

And to sum up :

AFTER PASSING THE HELL, those who survive, come a bit closer to what life really is. This can`t be learned either than TAKING A PERSONAL LESSONS. Some need one or two .... some need a several births to come to understanding, but it doesn`t matter.
Life is progressive.
Everything can be learned.


May a very good luck follow each of you, and all USA people and all Islamic Terrorists . The both sides are just the pawns in another party, which the masters almost have begun ...

Sincerely,
WhoEverIAm,
Anton Petrovci

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