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6/1/2012 1:29:53 AM

Does This Recently Discovered Mayan Mural Further Prove 2012 Doomsday Wrong?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/does-this-recently-discovered-mayan-mural-further-prove-2012-doomsday-wrong/

Recently Discovered Mayan Workroom Presents Further Evidence 2012 Doomsday Is a Myth

Photo: Tyrone Turner/National Geographic)

NEW YORK (The Blaze/AP) — Archaeologists have found a small room in Mayan ruins where royal scribes apparently used walls like a blackboard to keep track of astronomical records and the society’s intricate calendar some 1,200 years ago.

The walls reveal the oldest known astronomical tables from the Maya. Scientists already knew they must have been keeping such records at that time, but until now the oldest known examples dated from about 600 years later.

Astronomical records were key to the Mayan calendar, which has gotten some attention recently because of doomsday warnings that it predicts the end of the world this December. Experts say it makes no such prediction. The new finding provides a bit of backup: The calculations include a time span longer than 6,000 years that could extend well beyond 2012.

(Related: Worried about the world ending in 2012? NASA releases video saying don’t)

“Why would they go into those numbers if the world is going to come to an end this year?” observed Anthony Aveni of Colgate University in Hamilton, N.Y., an expert on Mayan astronomy. “You could say a number that big at least suggests that time marches on.”

Recently Discovered Mayan Workroom Presents Further Evidence 2012 Doomsday Is a Myth

(Image: William Saturno and David Stuart via National Geographic)

Aveni, along with William Saturno of Boston University and others, report the discovery in Friday’s issue of the journal Science. Watch National Geographic’s report on the discovery:

The room, a bit bigger than 6-feet square, is part of a large complex of Mayan ruins in the rain forest at Xultun in northeastern Guatemala. The walls also contain portraits of a seated king and some other figures, but it’s clear those have no connection to the astronomical writings, the scientists said.
Recently Discovered Mayan Workroom Presents Further Evidence 2012 Doomsday Is a Myth

(Photo: Tyrone Turner/National Geographic)

One wall contains a calendar based on phases of the moon, covering about 13 years. The researchers said they think it might have been used to keep track of which deity was overseeing the moon at particular times.

Aveni said it would allow scribes to predict the appearance of a full moon years in advance, for example. Such record-keeping was key to Mayan astrology and rituals, and maybe would be used to advise the king on when to go to war or how good this year’s crops would be, he said.

“`What you have here is astronomy driven by religion,” he said.

On an adjacent wall are numbers indicating four time spans from roughly 935 to 6,700 years. It’s not clear what they represent, but maybe the scribes were doing calculations that combined observations from important astronomical events like the movements of Mars, Venus and the moon, the researchers said.

Why bother to do that? Maybe the scribes were “geeks … who just got carried away with doing these kinds of computations and calculations, and probably did them far beyond the needs of ordinary society,” Aveni suggested.

National Geographic has more on the discovery as it relates to what the Mayans thought about the Dec. 21, 2012 “doomsday”:

The calculations include dates some 7,000 years in the future, adding to evidence against the idea that the Maya thought the world would end in 2012—a modern myth inspired by an ancient calendar that depicts time starting over this year.

“We keep looking for endings,” expedition leader Saturno said in a statement. “The Maya were looking for a guarantee that nothing would change. It’s an entirely different mindset.”

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The Maya at Xultún were likely less concerned with the end of the world than the end of their world, according to Mayan-writing expert David Freidel of Washington University in St. Louis.

For ninth-century Maya, tabulating astronomical calendars to predict times of plenty was akin to gauging the stock market today, said Freidel, who wasn’t involved in the new study.

When the Mural was made, the Xultún region was facing “a period of intense drought. In fact, cities were collapsing in various parts of the Maya world in this era,” he said.

“The preoccupation of this king and his courtiers with astronomical calculation is not an arcane exercise. It has a very practical consequence for the people of the city of Xultún, which is, What the hell is going on with the economy?”

Experts unconnected with the discovery said it was a significant advance.

“It’s really a wonderful surprise,” said Simon Martin, co-curator of an exhibit about the Mayan calendar at the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology.

While the results of the scribes’ work were known from carvings on monuments, “we’ve never really been able to identify a working space, or how they actually went about things,” Martin said.

The new work gives insight into that, he said, and the fact the room had a stone roof rather than thatching supports previous indications that the scribes enjoyed a high social standing.

“It’s a very important discovery. We’re only getting a glimpse of it” in the published paper, said John B. Carlson, director of the Center for Archaeoastronomy in College Park, Md.

“This is an intriguing start for this discovery.”

Check out National Geographic’s interactive “GigaPan” of the mural with more info on what elements of it mean here. Check out more pictures of the workroom here.

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6/8/2012 4:50:54 PM
Amazing photos of the latest appearance of "CROP CIRCLES" from Lubbock, Texas. As seen as planes from the nearby airport passes over.


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6/8/2012 5:01:08 PM
Hey Jim,

Now those are my kinda "galactics"!!! :)

Best crop circles I've ever seen.

Shalom,

Peter

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Amazing photos of the latest appearance of "CROP CIRCLES" from Lubbock, Texas. As seen as planes from the nearby airport passes over.


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Another Amazing crop circle Photo.

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6/23/2012 2:55:24 AM

Beautiful sunset photo of Mount Rainier with not one but two cap clouds...also known as lenticulars. Enjoy!~Jeff

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