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12/14/2009 6:24:27 PM
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But the question remains if we're in 5D what difference does it make?

Do you understand now why I'm sooooooooo confused? :)

Oh now I understand what you are saying. If everyone has ascended to 5D what is the purpose of banning someone from a forum? What possible harm could they do? Yes now I understand why you are sooooooo confused and I must admit now I'm confused. Hmmmm We've all ascended to 5D yet every thing is still the same. Verrrrryyyy confusing. Rats. I wanted my $10,000,000 from NESARA. Wouldn't that have been a wonderful Chistmas gift? :)


By George Evelyn, I think you've got it! :) :) :)

I guess love isn't the answer.........yet.

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12/14/2009 6:34:48 PM

Wow this is becoming more confusing by the minute. I just now read this:

By popular demand, we are offering a 4 for 3 opportunity beginning with this December 15th call. If you pay for 3 calls beginning with December 15th, you will receive the 4th call free.

Registration for this 4 for 3 offer must be in by end of the day Monday, December 14th in order to be able to process your order and send you the pin number in time.
So that now that everyone has ascended to the 5D, why should there be any need for this?
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12/14/2009 6:42:40 PM
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Wow this is becoming more confusing by the minute. I just now read this:

By popular demand, we are offering a 4 for 3 opportunity beginning with this December 15th call. If you pay for 3 calls beginning with December 15th, you will receive the 4th call free.

Registration for this 4 for 3 offer must be in by end of the day Monday, December 14th in order to be able to process your order and send you the pin number in time.
So that now that everyone has ascended to the 5D, why should there be any need for this?


Now that is confusing and a very interesting question. But, I'll go one step further why would these calls cost anything at all even in the old 3D world? Is it possible this is a money making venture?? OMG, what a discerning thought. For shame if it is. Hmmmmm, if that's the case it's all becoming less confusing isn't it?

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12/14/2009 6:52:01 PM

Malcolm X: Yes,I am delighted to come forward and THANK YOU for sensing my request and inviting me specifically into your Sacred Circle and what a gathering this is! Yes, I do have a different name, but you may call me Malcolm X. And yes, I do talk with Mr. X. (grinning)


I was not a Martin Luther King or JFK on earth…I was a very controversial figure and one that was virtually forgotten by most and misunderstood by even more due to the spin that was inflicted upon my work and my mission. Nonetheless, much was accomplished that neither friend nor foe was aware of at the time. Higher Dimensional Beings were very much a part of my life and my mission. Yes, much is being accomplished behind the scenes and You will not be disappointed!!! Barack is about to checkmate!!! With this I could feel him smiling from ear to ear and he winked at me! He is a very gentle and loving soul!!!

Welcome to the 5th Dimension



I am also wondering why the charges for these calls now that we have reached the 5th Dimension.
I am no longer confused now I am discerning and my discernment says there is a monetary gain to these folks. Much like some of these TV Preachers claiming that your contributions will cause blessing to be heaped upon you.
It appears that Evelyn's post is full of truisms and fact.

Criticism and comparison to a cult

Barnard became aware of Goodwin's description of NESARA before his death in 2005. He denied that NESARA had been enacted into law or even assigned a tracking number, and condemned Goodwin's allegations as a disinformation campaign.[24] Goodwin, for her part, dismisses the NESARA Institute as a disinformation front for the Bush family.

Some NESARA detractors claim that NESARA is a cult designed primarily to provide an income to Goodwin and others. They point to the fact that Goodwin, Lee, and Nidle frequently ask their readers to donate money.[25][26][27] Goodwin, who also asks readers to donate their frequent flyer miles,[28] claims that she needs and has used the funds to travel to various locations around the world to secretly meet with high-level government officials about getting NESARA announced.[29][28]

Some NESARA supporters also make the claim that otherworldly beings are working to get NESARA announced. These include a "channeled spirit" called "Hatonn",[30] and another called "Sananda" (claiming to be Jesus)[31] along with Saint Germain, a deity borrowed from The I AM Movement and the Church Universal and Triumphant. Benevolent aliens are also frequently mentioned, most prominently by Nidle, as working towards the NESARA announcement. The designation of George W. Bush as a reptilian often co-occurs with this claim.[32] Goodwin has claimed that Saint Germain has come down from heaven to physically meet with heads of banks and world leaders regarding the NESARA announcement.[33][34]

The prominence of failed prophecy also lends support to the cult theory. NESARA supporters often tell their readers that the NESARA announcement is going to happen in a matter of days. These claims have been made too many times to enumerate, without ever coming to fruition. According to the documentary Waiting For NESARA, the claim was also made prior to March 2003 that George Bush was planning the war with Iraq only to further delay the NESARA announcement. It was prophesied that spiritual beings and UFOs would intervene with Bush's plans and prevent the war.[19]

A June 2006 complaint to the Washington consumer protection division accused Goodwin of using the NESARA story to defraud a 64-year-old San Francisco woman of at least $10,000. The woman's daughter said the actual amount is much larger, in the hundreds of thousands.[21]

NESARA documentary

The documentary film Waiting For NESARA studies a NESARA group in Salt Lake City, Utah, whose members are excommunicated Mormons and hold weekly meetings in a local Kentucky Fried Chicken to discuss NESARA.

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12/14/2009 7:00:55 PM

Exactly Peter. A money making venture to ensnare the gullible. Shameful isn't it?

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