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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
12/3/2012 7:02:21 PM
Hi Jim,

Just with your opening sentence. [quote]
He is no communist, though he is using communistic actions.[/quote]. You can't "not be a communist if you're using communistic actions. On everything else we are in agreement.

Shalom,

Peter

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Not sure what you are disagreeing with we said much the same thing.

Jim
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Hi Kathleen & Jim,

I have to disagree Jim. The liar in chief B Hussein is a marxist and going through his history and the people that influenced his life and beliefs from childhood shows just that. It started with his mother, grandparents Frank Marshall (a well known marxist at the time) and through his college years he's if not a full blown marxist very close to being one.

The same applies to his muslim beliefs. Raised in a muslim country and his muslim/islamic agendas, surrounding himself with pro muslim "advisers" up to and including muslim brotherhood people and of course Vallery Jarrett who has Iranian connections.

Take into account that now the WH is saying they are against increasing the pressure on Iran you have the full picture of this poor excuse of a president.

We know that the extreme left and islam are working hand in hand now and in the fraud and great pretender you have the combination of both. A guy working for the downfall of the United States and one who's all for an islamic caliphate.

As much as I dislike having to agree with Russian
news papers they hit the nail on the head this time.

Shalom,

Peter


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He is no communist, though he is using communistic actions. You must look deeper and past communism and see who he has stated he will stand with. He has taken it all from Stalinist, Marxist, Communist and Fascist and rolled it all up into one big ball to support whom? The NWO? Do you really know what that is? In my own opinion it is codespeak for a New World Caliphate and it is almost as plain as the nose on our faces. Yet even when he states where he will stand we fail to see it. Like our own noses, when we have a cold we are being betrayed by our own senses. Because we are failing to smell the smoke in the air.

Edited as I found my smoking gun link to proof this is happening.


THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD'S "GENERAL STRATEGIC GOAL" FOR NORTH AMERICA

In July 2007, seven key leaders of an Islamic charity known as the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) went on trial for charges that they had: (a) provided "material support and resources" to a foreign terrorist organization (namely Hamas); (b) engaged in money laundering; and (c) breached the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which prohibits transactions that threaten American national security. Along with the seven named defendants, the U.S. government released a list of approximately 300 "unindicted co-conspirators" and "joint venturers." During the course of the HLF trial, many incriminating documents were entered into evidence. Perhaps the most significant of these was "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America," by the Muslim Brotherhood operative Mohamed Akram. Federal investigators found Akram's memo in the home of Ismael Elbarasse, a founder of the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia, during a 2004 search. Elbarasse was a member of the Palestine Committee, which the Muslim Brotherhood had created to support Hamas in the United States.

Written sometime in 1987 but not formally published until May 22, 1991, Akram's 18-page document listed the Brotherhood’s 29 likeminded "organizations of our friends" that shared the common goal of dismantling American institutions and turning the U.S. into a Muslim nation. These "friends" were identified by Akram and the Brotherhood as groups that could help convince Muslims "that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands ... so that ... God's religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions."

Akram was well aware that in the U.S., it would be extremely difficult to promote Islam by means of terror attacks. Thus the “grand jihad” that he and his Brotherhood comrades envisioned was not a violent one involving bombings and shootings, but rather a stealth (or “soft”) jihad aiming to impose Islamic law (Sharia)over every region of the earth by incremental, non-confrontational means, such asworking to “expand the observant Muslim base”; to “unif[y] and direc[t] Muslims' efforts”; and to “present Islam as a civilization alternative.” At its heart, Akram's document details a plan to conquer and Islamize the United States – not as an ultimate objective, but merely as a stepping stone toward the larger goal of one day creating “the global Islamic state.”

In line with this objective, Akram and the Brotherhood resolved to "settle" Islam and the Islamic movement within the United States, so that the Muslim religion could be "enabled within the souls, minds and the lives of the people of the country.” Akram explained that this could be accomplished “through the establishment of firmly-rooted organizations on whose bases civilization, structure and testimony are built.” He urged Muslim leaders to make “a shift from the collision mentality to the absorption mentality,” meaning that they should abandon any tactics involving defiance or confrontation, and seek instead to implant into the larger society a host of seemingly benign Islamic groups with ostensibly unobjectionable motives; once those groups had gained a measure of public acceptance, they would be in a position to more effectively promote societal transformation by the old Communist technique of “boring from within.”

“The heart and the core” of this strategy, said Akram, was contingent upon these groups' ability to develop “a mastery of the art of 'coalitions.'” That is, by working synergistically they could complement, augment, and amplify one another's efforts. Added Akram: “The big challenge that is ahead of us is how to turn these seeds or 'scattered' elements into comprehensive, stable, 'settled' organizations that are connected with our Movement and which fly in our orbit and take orders from our guidance.” The ultimate objective was not only an enlarged Muslim presence, but also implementation of the Brotherhood objectives of transforming pluralistic societies, particularly America, into Islamic states, and sweeping away Western notions of legal equality, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, and freedom of speech.

Akram and the Brotherhood understood that in order to succeed in this endeavor, they needed to appeal to different strata of the American population in different ways; that whereas some people could be influenced by messages delivered from a religious perspective, others would be more responsive to messages delivered by educators, or bankers, or political figures, or journalists, etc. Thus, Akram's blueprint for the advancement of the Islamic movement stressed the need to form a coalition of groups coming from the worlds of education; religious proselytization; political activism; audio and video production; print media; banking and finance; the physical sciences; the social sciences; professional and business networking; cultural affairs; the publishing and distribution of books; children and teenagers; women's rights; vocational concerns; and jurisprudence.

By promoting the Islamic movement on such a wide variety of fronts, the Brotherhood and its allies could multiply exponentially their influence. Toward that end, the Akram/Brotherhood “Explanatory Memorandum” named the following 29 groups as the organizations they believed could collaborate effectively to destroy America from within – “if they all march according to one plan”:


By setting up these many front groups, the Muslim Brotherhood was emulating the Communist Party tactic of creating interlocking front groups during the Cold War in order to confuse its enemies and make it more difficult to combat.
http://discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1235

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Obama Re-Elected by Illiterate Society Says Russian Newspaper

http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/obama-re-elected-by-illiterate-society-says-russian-newspaper/

While a small majority of the American people continue to celebrate the re-election of the worst and most corrupt president in US history, the rest of the world is mocking our stupidity. Looking from the outside, they see how Obama has constantly lied to the American people. They also see him for what he really is, a communist. And they see him repeating the same mistakes that other communist leaders made in the past. Yet, the 62 million Americans that voted for Obama are blind to what is happening to them.

Pravda is the most popular Russian newspaper in their country. In a recent article, it stated:


“Putin in 2009 outlined his strategy for economic success. Alas, poor Obama did the opposite but nevertheless was re-elected. Bye, bye Miss American Pie. The Communists have won in America with Obama but failed miserably in Russia with Zyuganov who only received 17% of the vote. Vladimir Putin was re-elected as President keeping the NWO order out of Russia while America continues to repeat the Soviet mistake.”

“After Obama was elected in his first term as president the then Prime Minister of Russia, Vladimir Putin gave a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland in January of 2009. Ignored by the West as usual, Putin gave insightful and helpful advice to help the world economy and saying the world should avoid the Soviet mistake.”

“Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.”

“O’bomber even keeps the war going along the Mexican border with projects like ‘fast and furious’ and there is still no sign of ending it. He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.”


“President Vladimir Putin could never have imagined anyone so ignorant or so willing to destroy their people like Obama much less seeing millions vote for someone like Obama. They read history in America don’t they? Alas, the schools in the U.S. were conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents. Obama has bailed out those businesses that voted for him and increased the debt to over 16 trillion with an ever increasing unemployment rate especially among blacks and other minorities. All the while promoting his agenda.”

“Russia lost its’ civil war with the Reds and millions suffered torture and death for almost 75 years under the tyranny of the United Soviet Socialist Republic. Russians survived with a new and stronger faith in God and ever growing Christian Church. The question is how long will the once “Land of the Free” remain the United Socialist States of America? Their suffering has only begun. Bye bye Miss American Pie!”


I’m not sure I could put it any more clear and succinct as did this Russian columnist. Barack Hussein Obama is a communist and is turning America into a communist or socialist nation. He is following the teachings of people like Stalin and Lenin, whose ideas destroyed their nation and led to its eventual downfall. Instead of learning from the past, Obama seems destined to repeat it.

If you want to see what America will be like in the near future, just look at the former Soviet Union before Glasnost and the influence of western culture. Look at the bleak images of people standing in line, hoping to be able to get a loaf of bread and some milk. Look at the factories and sweat shops and at the same time notice how few small stores there are. Look at their entertainment which consisted of a few state run television and radio stations. Look at the loss of all personal freedoms and dignity. Look at a people that are depressed because they are oppressed and you will be seeing us in the not too distant future.

Yeah, I have to agree. Obama was re-elected by a truly illiterate society.



Peter Fogel
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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
12/4/2012 3:45:32 AM

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
12/4/2012 3:47:17 AM
"One Nation Under Obama"
Published on Dec 3, 2012 by

Is this One Nation Under God? Or under Obama? Can't have both.

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
12/7/2012 2:26:12 AM

It is a very sad situation when leaders of other countries can see what has happened and is happening here in the USA so much clearer than the majority of Americans can.

Russian Paper Compares Obama's Fools to Stalin's Fools

12/06/12

Source: Pravda

He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so.

How shrewd he is in America.

His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.

Reading Putin’s speech without knowing the author, one would think it was written by Reagan or another conservative in America. The speech promotes smaller government and less taxes. It comes as no surprise to those who know Putin as a conservative. Vladimir Putin went on to say:

“…we are reducing taxes on production, investing money in the economy. We are optimizing state expenses.

The second possible mistake would be excessive interference into the economic life of the country and the absolute faith into the all-mightiness of the state.

There are no grounds to suggest that by putting the responsibility over to the state, one can achieve better results.

Unreasonable expansion of the budget deficit, accumulation of the national debt – are as destructive as an adventurous stock market game.

During the time of the Soviet Union the role of the state in economy was made absolute, which eventually lead to the total non-competitiveness of the economy.

That lesson cost us very dearly. I am sure no one would want history to repeat itself.”

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
12/7/2012 5:53:24 PM
Hey Peter and friends,

I had a conversation with a State of California Employee who has derect knowledge of the fact that both of Obama's grand parents were members of the communist party during the years that they raised Obama. There is more than adequate evidence that many of those around him over the years have been closely associated with fellow communists over the years. Obama's actions rather than association with the communist belief is probably not of much value as his actions speak louder.

I came here to paste in an article about the review of Obama's eligibility to hold his office or even be certified as a candidate here in California as well as other jurisdictions. Dr Orly Taitz's legal actions are getting closer to getting the results to remove Obama and his cohorts. In addition while the following article doesn't deal with his application for a Fulbright scholarship and the school records showing him to be a foreign student that were released yesterday it will ad to the relevant facts.

Oh and I got my editor back here at ALP! Yeh!


CA Supreme Court To Rule On Obama Eligibility
Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:15
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Press release from the Law Offices of Dr. Orly Taitz

Breaking news! Supreme Court of CA to rule whether Obama should be declared illegitimate for the U.S. Presidency due to his use of forged IDs and a fraudulently obtained CT Social Security number. Loss of 55 CA electoral votes will certainly mean new elections in the U.S.

After originally refusing to hear the case under the original jurisdiction, Supreme Court of California was persuaded by Attorney and Candidate for the U.S. Senate Dr. Orly Taitz to take on a case Noonan, Judd, MacLaren, Taitz v Bowen under the provisions of the California Constitution, which allow Supreme Court of California to hear special cases under the Original Jurisdiction. Docket excerpt is below. Case number is S 207078 Noonan v Bowen. Attorney Orly Taitz.

This case is brought on behalf of four plaintiffs, all of whom have perfect standing. Edward Noonan won the American Independent Party Presidential Primary in CA and certificate of his win was submitted to the court. Keith Judd is a Democratic Party candidate for the U.s. Presidency, registered with the FEC, he was a runner up to Barack Obama in West Virginia Democratic Party Primary with 40% of the vote, Thomas Gregory Macleran was a Republican candidate for President, registered with the FEC. Attorney and Doctor Orly Taitz was a candidate for the U.S. Senate in CA.

This case has two premises.

First. Plaintiffs provided the court with evidence of nearly One and a half million invalid voter registrations in the state of California. Such a large number of invalid votes justifies STAY of certification of the results.

Second. Plaintiffs provided evidence of Candidate Barack Obama committing massive elections fraud by using forged IDs and a fraudulently obtained Connecticut Social Security number 042-68-4425, which was never assigned to Obama and using a name, which is not legally his, as he is listed under the last name Soebarkah in his mother’s U.S. Passport and there is no evidence of him ever legally changing his name from Barack Obama Soebarkah to Barack Obama. Additionally, in his school records in Indonesia his citizenship is listed as Indonesian, not American. There is no record of him relinquishing his Indonesian citizenship and gaining the U.S. citizenship. Even if one were to believe that he arguendo changed his citizenship from Indonesian to American later in life, he would be a naturalized citizen and not natural born. Additionally, plaintiffs provided the courts with a sworn affidavits of Maricopa county, AZ investigator Mike Zullo, who is currently conducting a criminal investigation of forgeries in Obama’s IDs, and who attested that Obama’s birth certificate, Selective Service certificate and Social Security card represent forgeries. Similarly, Plaintiffs provided affidavits of Sheriff Joseph Arpaio, Senior Deportation Officer John Sampson, experts Paul Irey, Douglas Vogt and Felicito Papa and investigator Susan Daniels, all of whom are attesting that Obama’s IDs are forgeries. Affidavit of Assistant Clerk for the City of Honolulu Timothy Adams attests to the fact that there is no birth certificate for Barack Obama in any hospital in Hawaii. Statement of the Minister of Health of Kenya, James Orenga attesting to Obama’s birth in Kenya and Obama’s own biography submitted by him to his literally agent in 1991, stating that he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia. Plaintiffs are stating that if this court does not STAY the certification of the election results, this court will commit treason against the United States of America by allowing a foreign national, a citizen of Indonesia and possibly still citizen of Kenya to get in the position of the U.S. President and Commander n Chief by virtue of fraud and use of forged IDs and a stolen Social Security number.

Attorney Orly Taitz is a civil rights attorney, who is conducting this and a number of other cases pro bono and donations are appreciated, pay-pal link and address to send a donation are available on her web site OrlyTaitzESQ.com Currently Taitz is suing Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Registrar Alvin Onaka, commissioner of Social Security Michael Astrue, “Obama for America”, Democratic Party and others in the state of MS in a RICO (Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations) case, Taitz et al v Democratic Party et al 12-cv-280.

While Citizens cannot contact the court and influence the decision of the court one way or another, they can write to the court and ask to expedite this case, as this is the most important matter of National security and time is of the essence. If the Supreme Court of California does not grant a STAY, the case will go to Supreme Court of the United States Justice Anthony Kennedy, who is in charge of the 9th Circuit.

Two well known historical figures that have hidden their birth records and used falsified records, were Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler. We all know how that ended. Public is asked to support the plaintiffs and attorney Taitz in helping to finally adjudicate ON THE MERITS the issue of Obama’s forged IDs. Over 30 high ranking officials, including Attorney General of the US and White House Counsel were indicted and went to prison in Watergate. More corrupt and treasonous officials and judges are expected to go to prison in ObamaForgeryGate

End of Press release

Law Offices of Dr. Orly Taitz

29839 Santa Margarita pkwy, ste 100

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

ph. 949-683-5411 fax 949-766-7603

orly.taitz@gmail.com

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