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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
3/31/2012 10:56:43 PM
Hi Peter, Jim,
Been awhile since I have been over here too.
Romney would not be a good choice either, he is exactly the same as BHO and he was the one who first started the Romney Care that BHO has named after him and we do not hear what the final outcome from the court hearing they just had until June and BHO is exactly the same as Bush..
They all are working towards the New World Order which is already here, just a few finer details to polish off and it will be in place.
RFID Radio Frequency Identification chip by next March - NDDAA where we can be arrested without a reason or trial and taken away from American soil and detained indefinitely.. Marshall Law that Obammy just signed in a week or so ago - what are his plans for this, I wonder!
I was listening to Lindsey Williams (http://prophecyclub.com/ ) the other day who talks regularly with Mr X a Elite in his 70s and gives Lindsey inside news and passed on several pieces of news and one of them was that the Globalists are extremely livid with BHO because he is a Muslim and he did his own thing against them.
This Mr X said that HBO may not get the nod to be elected again this term because he back stabbed them! And also hopefully Sheriff Apaio and his cold case Posses which the MSM is ignoring will be enough to cause more doubt amongst the States to take his name off as the Alternative Media has made real sure that the word has gotten out and also the MSM ratings have plummeted by 50% in their viewings..Yeah!
These elections has been a farce as It is a One Party dictatorship under the guise of two parties and no choice at all with them as they are for the New World Order. Since John F Kennedy there has not been a real President and when he did a speech about the Secret Societies and also signed by Executive Order to bring back the Gold Standard banking system which was never put into place because he was assassinated they did not want the people to know but there is videos still to be found about this.
Even when Ron Paul is up there in the front running, he has had to put up with blatant fraud against him which has been proved many times and he gets the most turn crowds out because his followers are aware and stick around and watch while others who were supporting the others left.. He is ignored or lied about his position or told that he can't win, the message of Liberty has been sown into the hearts of many and has brought lots of people together from this message.
I wonder, what is the use of voting anyway because the whole thing is rigged against the people and the first year Bush stood is an example of the fraud in Florida which was hanging in the balance whether he would get in as brother Jeb made sure he got in..
If enough people stayed home and did not vote at all, did not get involved, would that make any difference, because to go along and even write on the ballot 'none of the above' it would probably not get noticed anyway. I reckon there has to be a better way of actually stating ones displeasure at these rigged elections and it would be great if there could be a very positive solution.
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Hi Jim,

Good to see you. It's been a while. In any case welcome back.

Anyone is better then B Hussein (except for Ron Paul) and Romney while not my first choice or second choice for that matter is far better then the fraud and great pretender. The main objective remains the same and that's to vote this guy out of office.

Shalom,

Peter

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It doesn't look good for the good guys now does it? All we have is a Romney.
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Hello Friends,

The below video shows a few the radical progressive liberal socialist/Marxist people B Hussein chose to surround himself with and appoint to powerful jobs and advisory positions, have as repeat visitors to the White House and much more.

Unfortunately the video didn't target them all. For instance Panetta telling Congress he takes his orders from the UN and NATO and will only "report" on their decisions to the Congress. General Dempsey saying something very similar. The people surrounding B Hussein who see the US as the Socialist United States is never ending and that includes Hillary as well.

The video also doesn't include B Hussein's Seoul taped segment asking Medvedev to give him space and promising that he'll be more flexible after being reelected. Flexible = selling out the US even more then he already has.

Add to that all the radical muslims surrounding B Hussein the coalition we see in the world of the extreme left and islam is becoming much clearer and easier to understand.

How can people vote for this fraud is beyond me and I certainly hope they learned from their past mistakes and won't buy in to his teleprompter prompted speeches and promises. Promises he didn't keep first time so there's no reason to believe he'll keep any second time around when he'll be much more FLEXIBLE and the name of the game then is selling out and destroying the United States of America not keeping promises to the deaf, dumb and blind that voted for him again.

The coming elections are the most important ever facing the American people. B Hussein's gotta go and let him join peanut brain Carter in the list of one term presidents.

Shalom,

Peter


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=amYkvP-4o9Q

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/1/2012 1:06:38 AM
I found this in my email which I shared around and thought it prudent to air again.

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/1/2012 5:48:54 AM
Hi Robert,

I truthfully must admit I found your post confusing and really didn't understand what point you're trying to make.

First of all you said:
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Russia is not USSR.
I don't recall saying she was but if the point you're trying to make is the different forms of government it has no relevance here and I believe you know that very well.

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The « West » needs to be defined as Globalists when one looks at the west for what the tendency is with regards to the UN and the EU.
That might be true but it's not the UN and EU that are the 'authors" of the sanctions against Iran but the individual countries like France, UK, Germany etc and of course the US & Canada.. The sanctions might have been discussed in the UN and EU but it's still the individual countries we're dealing with here.

When I discuss the Iranian threat to the west the globalists you're referring to is moot cos a nuclear bomb doesn't fall on a concept like globalism but on people and counties.

The "Russian gentleman" as you call him but I'll stick with Russian General indeed posed a threat when he said:
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"These maneuvers and training will demonstrate Russia's readiness to use military power to defend its national interests and to bolster its political position. The maneuvers will show that Russia does not want any military operations to be waged against Iran or Syria. I assume that the people in the West and in Israel who design the schemes for a large geopolitical operation in the greater Middle East region draw a direct connection between the situation in Syria and in Iran. Indeed, these two countries are allies, and both are considered guaranteed partners of Russia. The only question, therefore, is who they will try to destroy first as a stable country: Syria or Iran. [...]

"A strike against Syria or Iran is an indirect strike against Russia and its interests. Russia would lose important positions and allies in the Arab world. Therefore, by defending Syria, Russia is defending its own interests.
He's packing Syria and Iran in the same package while in fact they're different issues.

Assad's butchering the Syrian people is not the same package. Even the majority of the Arab and muslim countries are publicly sanctioning and demanding actions against Syria.

While Iran poses a danger to the world if it ever acquires nuclear arms. Number one and two on their hit list is Israel and the US and their neighboring arab countries are not far behind.

Israel's position in this regard is defense and the security of the Israeli people. A lunatic regime that doesn't miss a chance to declare it's intentions to destroy Israel without fear and impunity has to be believed. If these lunatics get their hands on nuclear weapons the assumption has to be that they'll use it either on their own or through their proxies.

Robert, I don't think I overlooked any 'elements'. The Russian General in fact said they would see any attacks either on Syria or Iran as if they were attacked and would react accordingly since both are "considered guaranteed partners of Russia".
So Robert, you can see from the Russian General's own words the threat is against the "west", the US and of course Israel.


Shalom,

Peter


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I would point out two elements you overlook Peter, and that conclude to your saying that the Russian gentleman is threatening the west.
  1. Russia is not USSR.

  2. The « West » needs to be defined as Globalists when one looks at the west for what the tendency is with regards to the UN and the EU.

The Russian gentleman in this video simply says what is very different to traditional Israeli and US foreign politics which have been having an apparent free ride with barely any noticeable barriers. It's not a simple matter that of imposing an idea - however valuable and truthful it may seem - when others see it very differently. Politics always lead to wars when personal ambitions and false pride govern, which is usualy what politics are all about.

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/1/2012 6:37:31 AM
Hi Amanda,

Good to see you here too but Jim's been away due to computer problems and you chose to be away.

As I said many times Romney is not my first choice, second choice or even third choice but he is far superior to having B Hussein for another 4 years. If he ends up with the GOP nomination he'll get my full support.

I had to smile while reading your post cos throughout it all I heard all of Alex Jones' talking points. You were careful not to mention his name cos you know he's not my cup of tea but did you ever bother to ask yourself why I know he's not my flavor of the day? I listen to his rantings and blather cos in order to be informed you have to read and listen to views and opinions that are different from your own. I believe in knowing what the opposition has to say and that includes habitual conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones and his ilk. It sorta reminded me of Jacob trying to get the Esau's blessing from Isaac when he brought him food from the hunt. Isaac said: "the arms are the arms of Esau but the voice is the voice of Jacob". So it is with your post. The arms are the arms of Amanda but the voice is the voice of Alex Jones (and no, I'm not comparing Jones to Jacob or you to Esau). :)

That said I believe even a Romney president will be far superior to B Hussein. No one can be as bad as he is. So Romney will get my support and vote if he ends up with the nomination.

I can't believe you're still on the Ron Paul bandwagon.He's been "up there" only once since Utah and that was cos Santorum and Gingrich weren't on the ballot. All the nonsense about him being discriminated against is BS and the polls seem to be proof of that.

The blatant fraud you're referring to isn't as the ronbots are claiming but the incident or incidents are just more manufactured nonsense of the Paul camp.

The last part of your post is negative thinking if you think staying at home and not voting will be a "statement" of your displeasure. Not voting or casting a blank ballot or voting for a third party is a vote for B Hussein. If that is your defeatist attitude cos the kook Ron Paul is where he is, it certainly is a sad day cos he took his chances by being a candidate and the majority of the conservatives showed what they think of him with their votes in the primaries held to date.

My objective hasn't changed and that's to insure B Hussein will be a one term president. One term has proven to be more then enough to say the least.

Shalom,

Peter


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Hi Peter, Jim,
Been awhile since I have been over here too.
Romney would not be a good choice either, he is exactly the same as BHO and he was the one who first started the Romney Care that BHO has named after him and we do not hear what the final outcome from the court hearing they just had until June and BHO is exactly the same as Bush..
They all are working towards the New World Order which is already here, just a few finer details to polish off and it will be in place.
RFID Radio Frequency Identification chip by next March - NDDAA where we can be arrested without a reason or trial and taken away from American soil and detained indefinitely.. Marshall Law that Obammy just signed in a week or so ago - what are his plans for this, I wonder!
I was listening to Lindsey Williams (http://prophecyclub.com/ ) the other day who talks regularly with Mr X a Elite in his 70s and gives Lindsey inside news and passed on several pieces of news and one of them was that the Globalists are extremely livid with BHO because he is a Muslim and he did his own thing against them.
This Mr X said that HBO may not get the nod to be elected again this term because he back stabbed them! And also hopefully Sheriff Apaio and his cold case Posses which the MSM is ignoring will be enough to cause more doubt amongst the States to take his name off as the Alternative Media has made real sure that the word has gotten out and also the MSM ratings have plummeted by 50% in their viewings..Yeah!
These elections has been a farce as It is a One Party dictatorship under the guise of two parties and no choice at all with them as they are for the New World Order. Since John F Kennedy there has not been a real President and when he did a speech about the Secret Societies and also signed by Executive Order to bring back the Gold Standard banking system which was never put into place because he was assassinated they did not want the people to know but there is videos still to be found about this.
Even when Ron Paul is up there in the front running, he has had to put up with blatant fraud against him which has been proved many times and he gets the most turn crowds out because his followers are aware and stick around and watch while others who were supporting the others left.. He is ignored or lied about his position or told that he can't win, the message of Liberty has been sown into the hearts of many and has brought lots of people together from this message.
I wonder, what is the use of voting anyway because the whole thing is rigged against the people and the first year Bush stood is an example of the fraud in Florida which was hanging in the balance whether he would get in as brother Jeb made sure he got in..
If enough people stayed home and did not vote at all, did not get involved, would that make any difference, because to go along and even write on the ballot 'none of the above' it would probably not get noticed anyway. I reckon there has to be a better way of actually stating ones displeasure at these rigged elections and it would be great if there could be a very positive solution.
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Hi Jim,

Good to see you. It's been a while. In any case welcome back.

Anyone is better then B Hussein (except for Ron Paul) and Romney while not my first choice or second choice for that matter is far better then the fraud and great pretender. The main objective remains the same and that's to vote this guy out of office.

Shalom,

Peter

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It doesn't look good for the good guys now does it? All we have is a Romney.
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Hello Friends,

The below video shows a few the radical progressive liberal socialist/Marxist people B Hussein chose to surround himself with and appoint to powerful jobs and advisory positions, have as repeat visitors to the White House and much more.

Unfortunately the video didn't target them all. For instance Panetta telling Congress he takes his orders from the UN and NATO and will only "report" on their decisions to the Congress. General Dempsey saying something very similar. The people surrounding B Hussein who see the US as the Socialist United States is never ending and that includes Hillary as well.

The video also doesn't include B Hussein's Seoul taped segment asking Medvedev to give him space and promising that he'll be more flexible after being reelected. Flexible = selling out the US even more then he already has.

Add to that all the radical muslims surrounding B Hussein the coalition we see in the world of the extreme left and islam is becoming much clearer and easier to understand.

How can people vote for this fraud is beyond me and I certainly hope they learned from their past mistakes and won't buy in to his teleprompter prompted speeches and promises. Promises he didn't keep first time so there's no reason to believe he'll keep any second time around when he'll be much more FLEXIBLE and the name of the game then is selling out and destroying the United States of America not keeping promises to the deaf, dumb and blind that voted for him again.

The coming elections are the most important ever facing the American people. B Hussein's gotta go and let him join peanut brain Carter in the list of one term presidents.

Shalom,

Peter


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=amYkvP-4o9Q

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/1/2012 6:45:30 AM
Thanks for re-posting this video. It is indeed excellent and should be an impetus for you to vote for whoever runs on the GOP ticket.

Shalom,

Peter


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I found this in my email which I shared around and thought it prudent to air again.

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