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Re: HSIG - Will The 2 State Solution Solve The Israel/Palestine Conflict ?
4/26/2009 5:03:51 PM


I found this article at the Faith Freedom website >  >  > 

http://news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2224

You've got to give credit to France.  They seem to have a bigger backbone than even Britain.

There is some light peeking through the darkness ....very interesting.

Helen

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Terrorist Profiling in Europe Being Used to Good Effect

Author: Dr. Laina Farhat-Hol on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 05:28 PM
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By: Dr. Laina Farhat-Holzman

Since the horrors of the Islamist attack on Mumbai, European governments are taking off their politically-correct gloves. Taking a position that used to be an excuse for criticism of the United States, with its tight immigration policy, Europe is now going even one better. Perhaps Europe may not succumb to an Islamic caliphate after all.

One issue at hand is what to do about Iran, which appears determined to produce nuclear weapons as well as to sponsor Islamist terrorism, something that sober Western governments do not want. Europe, as well as Iran’s neighbors, is rightly concerned when a country with a government that demonstrates irrationality and lack of transparency wants to have weapons of mass destruction.


Europe has tried negotiations and persuasion (unlike the U.S.), to no avail. Iranians, both chess players and bazaar bargainers, are better at both than most Europeans, with the possible exception of Russia. But there is a sticky problem that has emerged: what to do about Iranian scientists and scholars who have until now traveled to Europe for academic work. We know that many educated Iranians are neither government agents nor Shiite fanatics – but some are.


France has a new policy to vet all non-European Union researchers working in sensitive areas – and furthermore, to keep out all Iranian researchers. They are urging all EU members not to provide Iran with technical assistance or training that might be used for the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction that might even be used against them. According to Joseph Illand, who heads the EU security office, this is the first country-specific restriction on scholars and researchers. (See Nature News, Nature 456, 2008).


Of course human rights advocates consider this unfair, and would rather have a case-by-case vetting instead. It is true, innocent Iranian scholars will be affected, but the danger is sufficient that these restrictions are needed. The U.S. is prosecuting one such (naturalized) Iranian researcher now who was caught sending sensitive materials to Iran for “training purposes.”


Another bit of news: Agence France Presse and the AP have reported that Belgian authorities have arrested 14 suspected al Qaeda terrorists, including one who was planning a suicide attack. Sixteen raids were executed by 242 police in Brussels and Liege. Security people claim that these arrests were the “most important anti-terrorism operation in Belgium.” This terrorist group was also involved in training and fighting on the Pakistan-Afghan border, supervised by important al Qaeda leadership.


Belgium has waged an all-out investigation against al Qaeda for over a year without being infiltrated. Glen Audenaert, Director of the Federal Belgian Police (and his deputies), have educated themselves on the nature of this enemy. They seemed to understand its ideological nature and were equipped to deal with it.


Another piece of luck, a Belgian woman Muslim convert who has taken the name of Malika al Aroud, has also been arrested. She was the widow of a Muslim man who was the suicide-assassin of Ahmed Shah Massoud, an Afghan anti-Taliban commander and important ally of the U.S., two days before the 9/11 attack. You may remember seeing her interviewed on television in full hijab (veiled up to her eyeballs), when she spoke passionately about her love for Osama bin Laden and his “beautiful face.” This woman, according to Belgian authorities, is a menace and her arrest is most welcome.


There is a link between European-based cells and overseas al Qaeda battlefields, with much traveling back and forth. According to counterterrorism expert Walid Phares, the information coming out of these arrests challenge the assertion that the root causes for terrorism are found in suburban disenfranchisement. The “jihadist case,” says Phares, “is not the socio-economic situation in Brussels.” The target for their planned suicide bombing was the European Parliament, democracy as a whole, not some economic complaint. Belgium, which was opposed to the invasion of Iraq and isn’t a partner in Afghanistan, has learned that the Islamists have a bigger goal than those wars. This is an international (and personal) war.



FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Dr. Laina Farhat-Holzman is an historian, lecturer, and author who also writes for the Santa Cruz Sentinel.




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Re: HSIG - Will The 2 State Solution Solve The Israel/Palestine Conflict ?
4/27/2009 10:01:09 AM

Hi Robert,

I'm sorry to hear that you believe that he/we won't succeed in stopping the attack of Islam on the Western world.

You raise an interesting point with what you call political subjectivity or political relativity. It all comes under the banner of political correctness and that is the major problem as I see it. We've come to the point when political correctness is turning into a vile word and not to be considered anymore.

Islam is not offering the world a system or belief culture that compares to the humanism that we know in all other religions. In fact he is adamant that Islam is not a religion and I recommend that you read the text of his speech that I will be posting shortly where he explains that in detail.

The fact that the Europeans seem to have given up as you say and we can all see that if we follow what is happening in Europe (eurabia) and in the Scandinavian countries is the crux of the problem. Now is the time for all of us to join and fight this until it is eradicated and the Muslims that want to remain in Europe accept the culture of the land they chose to live in and not vice versa. 

I think your joke is quite apt to the subject at hand but what's happening in Europe is already happening in the USA and might not b an option in the near future.

Shalom,

Peter 

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Re: HSIG - Will The 2 State Solution Solve The Israel/Palestine Conflict ?
4/27/2009 10:13:13 AM

Hi Helen,

Thanks for your posts and the article. It is a very interesting read and some of it might be outdated when you see the response to Ahmadinejad's speech in Switzerland last week.

Although some countries are being a bit selective with researchers and professional people the Muslim immigrants are overloading the European countries daily even now. The same can be said for the USA and Canada. 

Iran is adamant to become a nuclear power and they are very close to that stage. As of now I don't see any country actively opposing this aside from Israel and that will affect the whole world if they succeed in becoming a nuclear power. Unfortunately "talking" will be the death of us all.

If and when you run for office you'll have my support. :)

Shalom,

Peter 

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Re: HSIG - The Full Text Of Gert Wilders Speech At The Freedom Of Speech Summit
4/27/2009 10:16:30 AM
Hello Friends,

Below is the text of Gert Wilders' speech at the Freedom Of Speech Summit in Florida. I listened to the videos and read the speech just now and believe me when I say it's worth reading even if you listened to the videos I posted yesterday.

The message is clear and as Gert says even though it's already 5 min to 12 it's not to late and we can stop the rampant attack of Islam on the Western world.

Shalom,

Peter



GEERT WILDERS FREEDOM OF SPEECH SUMMIT

I wish I had come to a place they call they call   sunshine state with better news but it would be very unwise to deny that the situation indeed is very gloomy, and it might take a while for you to understand the situation that we are in now. Maybe you as Americans still think that Europe is a place with a great culture and a profound way of looking at things. Maybe you see immigration as something that is inherently good for our country as it contributed so much for the United States, and I understand that. But Ladies and Gentleman the Europe as you know it from visiting Europe or from stories from your parents or friends or whoever, is on the verge of collapsing.

We are now witnessing profound changes that will forever alter Europe's destiny and might send the Continent in what Ronald Reagan once called: "A thousand years of darknes

And the takeover of Europe, that is currently taking place, is part of a global fight, a global fight of Islam for World domination.

Let me tell you first, that Islam is not a religion. Islam is a totalitarian political ideology. Islam hearts lies at the Koran and the Koran is a book that calls for hatred, that calls for violence, for murder, for terrorism, for war and submission.

The Koran calls upon Muslims to kill Kuffars, non-Muslims. The Koran describes Jews as monkeys and pigs, and Churchill, and I agree with him, Churchill compared the Koran, the book in the 50's, to Adolf Hitlers book Mein Kampf.

Ladies and Gentleman the core of the problem with Islam is twofold, First, the commands of the Koran are not limited by place or time, they apply for all time, to all Muslims of the World.

Second, the Koran is Allah's personal words that leaves no room for interpretation, therefore, there is not such a thing as a moderate Islam. Of course, there are many moderate Muslims, but a moderate Islam does not exist.

As the Turkish Prime Minister Mr. Erdoğan once rightfully said, he said: "There is no moderate Islam, Islam is Islam"

Apart from the Koran, the life of the Prophet Mohammed is very important for you to understand, in order to understand this terrible ideology. Mohammed plays the crucial part in this Islamic totalitarian ideology. Mohammed in fact is the role model for all Muslims in the World but, who was Mohammed? Mohammed, in fact was a paedophile, was a conqueror, was a Warlord and in establishing Islam he preached violence and the slaughter of non-Muslims.

He took part in 78 battles and slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayzah and Mohammed once said and I quote: "I have been ordered by Allah to fight against people until they testify that there is no God but Allah and that Mohammed is his messenger"

And, indeed, Mohammed's behaviour inspired Iran's former leader the Ayatollah Khomeini to say and I quote: "The purest joy in Islam is to kill and be killed for Allah"

And Mohammed's behaviour and the Koran inspired Jihadists all over the World to slaughter innocent people like they did in Washington, in New York, in Madrid, in London and in Mumbai.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Islam has always intended to conquer Europe and it has done so for centuries.

The Christian city of Constantinople fell in the 15 century and now in the 21st century. Islam is trying again, but this time, not with Armies, but through the application of AlHaya the Islamic doctrine of migration. As expounded so masterfully by my good friend Sam Solomon in his (book ?????) The doctrine that is based on the example of Mohammed who himself migrated from Mecca to Medina.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi said and he unfortunately is correct, and I quote: "We have 50 million Muslims in Europe and there are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe, without swords, without guns, without conquest. The 50 million Muslims of Europe will turn Europe into a muslim contininent within a few decades" Ladies and Gentlemen, unfortunately Gaddafi is right.

The AlHaya doctrine is and has been very successful in Europe for the first time in World history there are dozens of millions of Muslims living far outside the dark area of Islam, the Islamic World, and that poses enormous problems to the West.

Ladies and Gentlemen AlHaya may be the end of the western civilisation as we know it, for Islam is not coming to our societies to integrate or to assimilate but wants to dominate, and wants to submit us all, and the most dramatic situation is the one in Europe today.

My country is in the process of becoming Hollandistan as Europe is becoming in the process of becoming Eurabia. Only 12% of the German Muslims see themselves more German than Muslims, and churches throughout Europe are emptying out whereas Mosques are shooting up like mushrooms. Many evil phenomena such as Burqas, honour killings, female genitalia mutilations are becoming more and more prevalent.. Sharia testaments, Sharia mortgages, Sharia schools, Sharia banks, Sharia courts and even sharia Barbie dolls - Europe has them all today.

And I have not even mentioned the fact that for instance 70% of all crimes in the European city like Copenhagen are committed by Muslims. Indeed, we let in the Trojan Horse and the free World is now facing a Stealh Jihad, the Islamic attempt to introduce Sharia Law, bit by bit (or hit by hit?).

Allow me to give you a few examples also of the Islamisation here in the United States:-
Muslim taxi drivers in Minneapolis have refused over 5,000 passengers because they were carrying alcohol. Muslim students are demanding separate campus housing. Muslim women are demanding separate hours and gyms, and swimming pools. Schools are already banning Halloween and Christmas celebrations. Indeed, schools are taking pork off their cafeteria menus to avoid Muslim students.

Ladies and Gentlemen, be aware that this is only the beginning. If things continue like this, you will have the same problems that we are facing in Europe today. And if we do not stop the process of Islamization, I am sure we will lose everything, we will lose our identity, we will lose our culture, we will lose our Democratic Constitutions, we will lose our freedom, we will lose our Civilization.

In Europe we are already losing the fight for freedom of speech. We are losing the fight to criticize Islam and I think that criticizing religions and ideologies, always, always ought to be possible in a free World. Human rights exists for the protection of individuals, not religions and certainly not ideologies. so I propose that all the hate speech laws in Europe are to be repealed.

Europe ought to defend the freedom of speech.

In fact Europe should adopt a US model like the First Amendment. The difference between United States and Europe and the area of free speech is for instance shown by the example of my short film Fitna.

A few months ago, I was invited to show Fitna in the Senate, in your democratic Senate, by Senator Jon Kyl and in contrast to that the screening of my film Fitna was banned twice in the terrible European Parliament, and let us see to which the Freedom of Speech is exercized not only in Washington DC but also in Brussels and Strasbourg, and that is why we do need a European First Amendment.

Ladies and Gentlemen, there is one country in our Western Civilization that has been forced to fight the forces of Jihad for its values since the very day of its existence: Isral the Canary in the Coal Mine. Let me say a few words about that wonderful country.

I had the privilege myself to live in Israel for a few years and since then I have visited that country many many times.. Why? Because I love it, I do love Israel.

However, in Europe, being Pro-American, being Pro-Israel makes you an endangered species. Israel is a Beacon of Light in an area, the Middle East, that is pitch black everywhere else.

Israel is a Western Democracy, whilst Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and all the other countries in the region are medieval dictatorships. And the so -called Middle East conflict, as you all know it, is not about land at all. It's a conflict about, once again, about ideologies. It's a conflict and a battle between Islam and Freedom. It's not about some land in Gaza or Judea or Samaria, it's about Jihad.

To Islam the whole of Israel is occupied terroritory. They see Tel Aviv and Haifa as settlements as well, and I am very much in favour of a two state settlement solution but then the two state solution from Winston Churchill in 1921, when Palestine was partitioned into a Jewish and an Arab part, Arab Palestine, Ladies and Gentlemen, is now called Jordan and I think that Jordan is the Palestinian State.

Islam forces Israel to fight. Israel is not just fighting for itself, Israel is fighting for all of us, for the entire West, just like those brave American soldiers who landed in Sicily in 1943 and stormed the Normandy beaches in 1944.

Young Israeli men today, young Israeli Women today, are fighting for our freedom, are fighting for our civilization, and like Bosnia, like Kosovo, like Nigeria, like Sudan, like the Caucasus, like Kashmir, like Southern Thailand, like Western China and the South of the Phillipines, Israel is situated exactly on the dividing line between da Islam(sp?), the Islamic World and da al(?) the non-Islamic World. It is no coincidence that it is precisely this dividing line, where blood is flowing and war is raging in many many areas.

And, we have to get rid of that politically correct fallacy that it is all about separate conflicts, it's not. Let us please allow ourselves at least to see the big picture, which is, that all those conflicts, have to do with Jihad, Jihad in the spirit of Mohammed. Ladies and Gentlemen, Europe ought to fully back Israel to the hilt and (???help) us fight against those that threaten it, whether it's Hezbollah, whether it's Hamas, or Nuclear Iran. Also, because of it's history, Europe has certainly the moral duty and obligation to prevent at all cost, another Holocaust against the Jewish people.

Ladies and Gentlemen, still Islam is not our No. 1 problem, our No. 1 problem is called 'Cultural Relativism', the Elites that rule our countries have converted us to this sick philosophy a long time ago. Government leaders, Judges, even Churches, Trade Unions, Universitities, the Media, all of them are blinded by political correctness and have chosen the side of Islam. They feel sorry for Muslims and pity them. 'Cultural Relativism' is weakening the West day by day. As a result of this 'Cultural Relativism' a little bit of the Free West dies everyday. Many Politicians, seem to believe, unfortunately, that their job is not to defend democracy but to help to make the transition to Sharia as smooth as possible.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I am often asked whether I have any answers to all the problems that I mention or what those answers might be. Well, let me tell you, I certainly have a lot of answers. Here are a few things that I believe we should do in the West, to stop the Islamization.

First, I have already said it, we have to stop the idea of 'Cultural Relativism'. Get rid of the misconception that all cultures are equal. They are not. Our culture based on Christianity, on Judeaism and Humanism is far better than the Islamic culture. So we should stop it.

We should also stop pretending that Islam is a religion, sure, it has religious symbols, but it's not a religion. It is a totaltarian ideology and the right to religious freedom should not apply to Islam.

We should stop the mass immigration from Muslim countries. We have to stop it, today. No more immigrants from Muslim countries. We have to stop the AlHaya (sp??).

We have to encourage the voluntary repatriation. We have to expel criminals. We have to expel criminals with dual nationality even if we have to de-naturalize them and send them back to their homelands. I think we need a European First Amendment to strengthen our freedom of speech.

I think we have to have a contract, in any Western Country, a contract, a binding contract signed by everybody there, of Assimiluation. We need a Pledge of Allegiance in all Western countries for people to adhere to our values as well.

We have to stop the building of new Mosques. We have to close the Mosques where incitement of violence is taking place.

We have to close down Islamic schools, for they are fascist institutions, where young people are brought up with an ideology of violence. And, last but not least, we have to get rid of the weak leaders that we have.

We have the privilege, until today, to live in a democracy, and let us use that privilege in order to exchange our own values.

We need indeed, in our Western World today, we need more leaders, we need more Churchill's and we need less Chamberlain's. We need strong leaders like we have here today, like Alan West and Adam Hasner, we need strong men like that.

Ladies and Gentlemen, in short, we have to go on the offensive, my message of this evening is that we have to go on the offensive. We have to start fighting back, there is no alternative other than fighting back. We must no longer allow ourselves to remain seated in our armchairs and get trampled over. If they bombard us with Sharia Law as they do, then we shall bombard them back with our Human Rights and our Freedom of Speech. if they bombard us with all their court cases we will bombard them back with all our court cases, against them. We have to fight back and show them indeed millions, millions of people.....

I assure you that I will continue my struggle for Freedom, and indeed a struggle it is.

After Fitna had been screened for the first time last year, there were threats. Don't ever dare to criticize Islam publicly, you will get threats of Economical Boycotts, your flag, like the dutch flag will be burnt all over the World You will be prosecuted, like I am to be prosecuted in my own home country, and also in France and Jordan, I face prosecution.

I have been barred from entering the United Kingdom, Lord Malcolm Pearson just spoke about it, but also barred from going to Indonesia.

The most radical Imam in the Netherlands is threatening to sue me and demanding a compensation, and a Parliamentary Bill, even today in the Netherlands in my own country, is currently being drafted with the aim ofprotecting Islam from criticism, and on top of all this, because of my view of Islam anybody else who dares to stand up and criticize islam, Al Qaeda is there determined to kill me, and others who speak out against Islam.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I told you I was going to be blunt, I was going to be tough, but there is no alternative for this. In spite all this bad news, fortunately there is also some good news I can share with you and there is no doubt in my mind that at the end of the day, even though it is five minutes to twelve, Freedom will prevail. There are already some hopeful signs.

For instance, last week, in my own Parliament in the Dutch Parliament, they accepted a motion, a resolution, proposed by my own Party, seeking to block any dialogue between Government Officials and Hamas. And, according to the most recent opinion polls, already for months now, if elections were to be held in the Netherlands today, my own Party, the Freedom Party, will be the largest Party in the Netherlands. So you might be looking at the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands. So, I ask you, if it can be done in the Netherlands, why not throughout the whole Western World.

If the Netherlands were the first country to end up the Multi-Culturarist Swamp why can't it be the first Country to find a way out. Why are there not other countries where people stand up and win the elections and make some changes.

Finally, Ladies and Gentlemen, of course, we in Europe, we in the Netherlands, I myself, have not forgotten to whom we owe our Liberties. Our Liberties were bitterly fought for by American Soldiers. American soldiers fought, bled, and died for the European freedom. American soldiers did not die for an Islamized Europe, they died for a free Europe. We owe, we owe something to those brave men, those brave American men, their legacy can not be squandered and cannot be given away. The third President and his spiritual father of this great Nation, once said and I quote: "The price of Freedom is eternal vigilance" as so often Thomas Jefferson was right.

Our freedom must be safeguarded, and it is, we, ourselves, as we are sitting here, that must do so, that must act. A period of inattention of dropping our guard, for even a short while, might cost us our freedom, just like that. It has happened before in history, please let us not allow it to happen again.

Everything we stand for has to be defended, everything we are, everything we have, with all our might, our identity, our culture, our democracy, our freedom and our civilization is at stake.

We owe it, Ladies and Gentlemen, to our children..

So Ladies and Gentlemen, I leave you with the expression of our determination. We will never give up, we will never give in, we will never never, ever, surrender. Thank You.

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Re: HSIG - The Full Text Of Gert Wilders Speech At The Freedom Of Speech Summit
4/28/2009 4:36:37 PM

Hello Peter,

I took some time to have another look into what our friend Geert is saying, I speak Dutch myself so I understand the little stuttering and thereby what his mind is thinking. Obviously the Gentleman has a very good knowledge about the subject he is concerned with, but, and yes there is a ‘but’ concerning an element I understand as being a flaw in his ambitions. I mentioned it in my last post when I said to have a doubt about his achieving his goals. Of course I wish him to succeed.

Considering the European mentality in these present times, with the galloping euphoria in the constructing of the European Union of which no one really knows to what end and to what avail, except for rendering any conservative or traditional reality into a contra-productive consideration. Our friend Geert is confronted here with a huge and powerful opposition. Were it only for this monster as an opponent, some would say that democracy comes from the people and not from this mastodon. Reality has it that he has many other opponents, namely the media and need I mention the law that is setup to deal with these political nonconformists and last but not least the massive migrations of barbarians.

Now you may well drop your arms and ask what needs to done, good question. To answer this we need to go back in time and understand where did it all start from and why. Otherwise we will simply be cutting branches from the stem only see them grow again and again and more powerful every time round.

Europe has lost its faith, and this runs right back to and because of the French revolution in 1789. Since then the ‘go-it-alone’ godless society has been teaching religious freedom that only leads to religious indifference and with religious indifference there is no need to prevent Islamic proliferation. See the link?

Essentially, what Geert has lacking in his battle are partners. Somewhat similar for arguments sake; the best army troops will not move if supplies and infrastructure do not follow. If his ‘allies’ do exist, they are being cut down one after the other. Be them Bishops or recent politicians that are considered as far right and nothing better than frustrated or retarded whatever. Today with a left media that funnily enough associates with the very theories that they pretend to hate, the battle is on but not in an open manner. This battle is in the background, it is called education of our children, bringing back faith and thereby coherence in the society, the list is long indeed. Did Spain and Portugal in the old days not conquer the near world, when they were united in faith and did so with merely three small sailing boats? (There is a slight difference with Islam and the intentions that nurtured the European countries in the 14th century! Need I say this?)  

Look at it this way. Israel is united in their faith and in their society, and this makes it hard if not impossible for Islam to conquer. Another example; Saudi Arabia is united in faith and in society; it makes them capable of living in the dessert. Interesting!

Faith is the answer to the battle that Geert is fighting (on his own! And out in the open) but in that aspect of things, I do not hear him.

I did not say that Islamic faith is better than none! Helen said it nicely; Islam settles with no problems there where faith is absent. It is not a question of individual faith, even if it helps, the question resides in the Nation as an entity in faith. (I’ll keep the question of “which one” for another forum some day! J )

Friendly yours,

Robert.

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