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Re: HSIG - SAUDI COURT APPROVES PEDOPHILIA
4/13/2009 9:33:42 AM
 Hello Friends,

Here is another aspect of Islam that we should respect according to BHO. Pedophilia!!! Yep, one of the great contributions of Islam to mankind. If you don't believe me ask BHO, he said it.

I guess they aren't to be blamed cos their prophet Muhammad showed them the way when he married the 6 year old Aisha and had sex with her when she was 9. A teacher of pedophilia I guess. Teach by example.

All this happened in Saudi Arabia when the mother of an 8 year old girl petitioned the court to annul the marriage of her daughter to a 47 year old man. The court said no the marriage is kosher (twice) according to Sharia law and the example set by their prophet.

One more thing. Let's not forget that BHO bowed to the King of this country. Hmmmm, makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Shalom,

Peter

SUNDAY, APRIL 12, 2009

Saudi Court Approves Pedophilia--Following in the Prophet's Footsteps

When is it OK to have sex with a young girl? Well Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran gave a fatwa about Quran 65.4: "A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."

There is a reason for this fatwa, the Prophet Muhammad Married a six-year-old named Aisha and had Sex with the girl by the time she was nine. Following in the footsteps of their Prophet, the pedophile, a Saudi Court has refused to annul the marriage of an 8-Year-Old to a 47 year-old man:
Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
By Mohammed Jamjoom
A Saudi judge has refused for a second time to annul a marriage between an 8-year-old girl and a 47-year-old man, a relative of the girl told CNN.

The most recent ruling, in which the judge upheld his original verdict, was handed down Saturday in the Saudi city of Onaiza, where late last year the same judge rejected a petition from the girl's mother, who was seeking a divorce for her daughter.

The relative said the judge, Sheikh Habib Al-Habib, "stuck by his earlier verdict and insisted that the girl could petition the court for a divorce once she reached puberty." The family member, who requested anonymity, added that the mother will continue to pursue a divorce for her daughter.

The case, which has drawn criticism from local and international rights groups, came to light in December when al-Habib declined to annul the marriage on a legal technicality. The judge ruled the girl's mother -- who is separated from the girl's father -- was not the girl's legal guardian and therefore could not represent her in court, according to Abdullah al-Jutaili, the mother's lawyer.

The girl's father, according to the attorney, arranged the marriage in order to settle his debts with the man, who is "a close friend" of his. At the time of the initial verdict, the judge required the girl's husband to sign a pledge that he would not have sex with her until she reaches puberty, al-Jutaili told CNN. The judge ruled that when the girl reaches puberty, she will have the right to request a divorce by filing a petition with the court, the lawyer said.

Last month, an appeals court in the Saudi capital of Riyadh declined to certify the original ruling, in essence rejecting al-Habib's verdict, and sent the case back to al-Habib for reconsideration. 


Under the complicated Saudi legal process, the appeals court ruling meant that the marriage was still in effect, but that a challenge to the marriage was still ongoing. The appeals court in Riyadh will now take up the case again and a hearing is scheduled for next month, according to the relative.

The issue of child marriage has been a hot-button topic in the deeply conservative kingdom recently. While rights groups have been petitioning the government to enact laws that would protect children from this type of marriage, the kingdom's top cleric has said that it's OK for girls as young as 10 to wed.

"It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger," Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh, the kingdom's grand mufti, said in remarks last January quoted in the regional Al-Hayat newspaper. "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her."

Al-Sheikh reportedly made the remarks when he was asked during a lecture about parents forcing their underage daughters to marry.

"We hear a lot in the media about the marriage of underage girls," he said, according to the newspaper. "We should know that Sharia law has not brought injustice to women."

Sharia law is Islamic law. Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islam called Wahhabism.

CNN was unable to reach government officials for comment.

Christoph Wilcke, a Saudi Arabia researcher for Human Rights Watch, told CNN in December that his organization has heard of many other cases of child marriages.

"We've been hearing about these types of cases once every four or five months because the Saudi public is now able to express this kind of anger -- especially so when girls are traded off to older men," Wilcke said.

Wilcke explained that while Saudi ministries may make decisions designed to protect children, "It is still the religious establishment that holds sway in the courts, and in many realms beyond the court."

Last December, Zuhair al-Harithi, a spokesman for the Saudi government-run Human Rights Commission, said his organization is fighting against child marriages.

"The Human Rights Commission opposes child marriages in Saudi Arabia," al-Harithi said. "Child marriages violate international agreements that have been signed by Saudi Arabia and should not be allowed." He added that his organization has been able to intervene and stop at least one child marriage from taking place.

Wajeha al-Huwaider, co-founder of the Society of Defending Women's Rights in Saudi Arabia, told CNN that achieving human rights in the kingdom means standing against those who want to "keep us backward and in the dark ages."

She said the marriages cause girls to "lose their sense of security and safety. Also, it destroys their feeling of being loved and nurtured. It causes them a lifetime of psychological problems and severe depression."

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Re: HSIG - SAUDI COURT APPROVES PEDOPHILIA
4/13/2009 10:50:13 AM
Hi Peter,

I am not yelling at you but I am sure me being a  mother you can understand what I am saying here and why the all caps and largeness of the font!


OUTRAGEOUSLY DISGUSTING AND DISTURBING!!!

 The judges should be beaten and jailed. The father should be beaten and jailed with the judges.

 The husband's should be castrated, shot, hanged or drown. I knew that it was allowed sadly enough.The religion of Islam should be banned world wide.  As for BO .. I wander about his own daughters, poor girls.

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Re: HSIG - 1st ANNUAL FREE SPEECH SUMMIT - GERT WILDERS TO RECEIVE AWARD
4/13/2009 12:24:26 PM
Hello Friends,

The 1st Annual Free Speech Summit will take place on 4/27/2009 in Delray Beach, Fla. Gert Wilders and many others will be participating and if you can it would be well worth your while to participate.

Shalom,

Peter


FLORIDA SECURITY COUNCIL &  IFPS 

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:Monday - April 27, 6-10pm.

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Presented to Mr. Geert Wilders


THIS AMAZING EVENT FEATURES MANY NATIONAL LEADERS INCLUDING: 
Frank Gaffney, Pamela Geller, Janet Folger Porter, Rep. Adam Hasner, Ltc. Col. Allen West (ret), Nidra Poller, Martin Mawyer, Joe Kaufman, Jerry Gordon, Rich Swier, May Long

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Re: HSIG - SAUDI COURT APPROVES PEDOPHILIA
4/13/2009 1:06:30 PM

Now Geketa,

The husband did agree to wait till she reached puberty to have sex with her.  He has done nothing but remove her from an uncaring father, poor living conditions to a life as his honored wife.  Providing her, food, housing and shelter with no reward till she reaches puberty.  I think castration is a bit much.

While judges ruling is radical to our way of thinking it is not to the people that follow Islam and accept these mullahs as their judge and juror. 

This case just sheds light on an accepted practice even though it is in direct conflict with current world treaties and observances.  But is OK for Islam to ignore this, it seems the UN even is supporting language that makes this conversation unlawful. 

Islam is not your friend and is not about love, peace or respect.  It is about enslavement.

Jim

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Re: HSIG - SAUDI COURT APPROVES PEDOPHILIA
4/13/2009 1:57:11 PM

Hello Jim,

I guess according to your post this 47 year old guy should get an award for saving the young girl from her father.

She was sold as chattel in order to cover her father's debts and this 8 year old girl is now the property of her "husband".

He signed that he wouldn't have sex with her until puberty???? Well there is a Fatwah that allows sex from the age of 9. Maybe they reach puberty earlier there?!

You wrote:

While judges ruling is radical to our way of thinking it is not to the people that follow Islam and accept these mullahs as their judge and juror. 

This case just sheds light on an accepted practice even though it is in direct conflict with current world treaties and observances.  But is OK for Islam to ignore this, it seems the UN even is supporting language that makes this conversation unlawful.

Not only that is radical to our way of thinking but killing infidels, honor killings etc. are too. But I guess to your way of thinking it's OK for them because they are "people that follow Islam and accept these mullahs as their judge and juror."

In any case puberty is between the age of 11 - 13 and I don't believe that Geketa's punishment is off the mark at that age too. But, don't forget he can start at the ripe old age of 9.

I do agree with your last sentence.

Shalom,

Peter

 

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