Hi Geketa,

The truth of the matter is that I find it incomprehensible that people will use sources like David Duke to try to prove a point. It appears that they think we don't know who these people are and will accept the source as a reliable one. 

Yes, Josephus isn't a reliable source cos of his desire to please and appease his Roman masters. It is a general source for the period but his facts aren't relied on.Recently there's been a revival to give some of his books a bit more credence.

I'll paste in an interesting map of our region so that you and others an see what is actually happening here. I remember well when I received the map and it sorta surprised even me considering I'm so familiar with the geography of the middle east.

Shalom,

Peter

  

Hello Peter,

I found some things that King Hussein said and thought others might enjoy reading what a man of peace king Hussein was.
 I remember him well, growing up seeing him in the news. These are  a few of his thoughts ,you can click the link at the end if you would like to read more.

I am sure that G-d was very please with King Hussein his compassion for his fellow humans and desire for peace was unsurpassed by none.

The Quest for Peace

Peace Among the Children of Abraham

I have often witnessed the wonderful discovery that occurs when people suddenly realize that they are the same, that their problems are the same, that their fears are the same, that their hopes are the same, that their aspirations are the same. And so I have tried my best to create a people-to-people relationship. As a result, a lot of Israelis listen when I speak with them or address them. We cannot ignore the human dimension of relations, and we should do whatever we can to encourage contact amongst people because, after all, it is not a question of peace between governments—it's rather a question of peace between peoples. That is the best guarantee of the kind of future we all seek. So that fears are removed, so that mutual confidence is built, so that relations are based on mutual respect—and since there is no alternative except disaster to all of us in this entire region—we must do whatever we can for the cause of peace.

 

To recognize ourselves -Arabs, Jews, Christians, Muslims, the descendants of the Children of Abraham- that in itself should be our greatest challenge. To come together, to work together, to revive the reality of our common struggle way in the past that helped contribute to the world of today its culture, its civilization, its progress.

Address to Representatives of the German Media
Baden Baden, Germany
April 24, 1998

 

We belong to the camp of peace. We believe in peace. We believe that our one God wishes us to live in peace and wishes peace upon us, for these are His teachings to all the followers of the three great monotheistic religions, the Children of Abraham.

Let’s not keep silent. Let our voices rise high to speak of our commitment to peace for all times to come, and let us tell those who live in darkness who are the enemies of life, and through faith and religion and the teachings of our one God, this is where we stand. This is our camp. May God bless you with the realization that you must join it and we pray that He will, but otherwise we are not ashamed, nor are we afraid, nor are we anything but determined to fulfill the legacy for which my friend fell, as did my grandfather in this very city when I was with him and but a young boy.

Address at the Funeral of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin
Jerusalem
November 6, 1995

 

The Jordanian-Israeli Peace Treaty marked the end of one period in our history and the dawning of another. It is the first step towards the restoration of harmony in the Holy Land, which God ordained, but which man disrupted.

Address to the Parliamentary Assemby of the Council of Europe
Strasbourg, France
September 25, 1995

 

The Christian-Islamic tradition of tolerance and coexistence in mutual respect has happily survived in the Middle East, despite the events and attempts that have threatened, even sought, to undermine it. As we consolidate and develop this tradition, we are now striving to revive the equally noble Judeo-Islamic tradition, which also endured for centuries, though it was temporarily overshadowed by the Arab-Israeli conflict. This cultural interchange made great contributions to the progress of mankind in philosophy, literature, science and the arts, and later it played an important role in the flourishing of the European Renaissance.

Address to the Museum of Peace and Tolerance (Simon Wiesenthal Center)
Los Angeles
March 24, 1995

 

For our part, we shall continue to work for the new dawn when all the Children of Abraham and their descendants are living together in the birthplace of their three great monotheistic religions, a life free from fear, a life free from want—a life in peace.

Address to the Museum of Peace and Tolerance (Simon Wiesenthal Center)
Los Angeles
March 24, 1995

 

The two Semitic peoples, the Arabs and the Jews, have endured bitter trials and tribulations during the journey of history. Let us resolve to end this suffering forever and to fulfill our responsibilities as leaders of our peoples, and our duty as human beings towards mankind.

I came before you today fully conscious of the need to secure a peace for all the Children of Abraham. Our land is the birthplace of the divine faiths and the cradle of the heavenly messages to all humanity.

Address to the Joint Session of the US Congress
Washington, DC
July 26, 1994

 

I look forward to a day when the parties to the conflict will till the soil, reap the harvests, plant trees and enjoy the fruits of their labor, in confidence and security. I also look forward to a time when all the Children of Abraham can proceed to their religious sites in the Holy Land in freedom and peace, guided by a spirit of amity, love and faith in one God.

Address to the Fortieth Session of the United Nations General Assembly
New York
September 27, 1985

 

Jordan is the cradle of civilization, where in an area and a world of intolerance, a people, believers in one God, live in peace and total harmony as members of one family. As a Muslim, I know that my faith reveres all monotheistic religions. It completes God’s message to mankind to live together in friendship and dignity, at a time when Islam, Christianity and Judaism, in many parts of the world, present an image which is totally alien to the spirit in which they were meant: the teachings of God in terms of tolerance an mutual respect.

Address to the European Parliament
December 15, 1983

Home page for King Hussein

http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo

Hi Amanda,

Thanks for your posts and welcome.

Yes, the list since 9/11 is quite long but it is dwarfed when you take into account all the terrorist attacks world wide since then. The numbers are staggering.

People better start waking up to the international dangers we are all facing before it's to late.

Shalom,

Peter

Hello Everyone ,

Here is the TRUTH about the school that Israel was supposed to have bombed during the Gaza conflict ! This is THE UN Finding by the way!!! Not just my opinion.


The Story Behind the "Fantasy " of an Israeli Bombing of the UNRWA School

Posted: 04 Feb 2009 05:20 PM PST

Perhaps the most difficult moment in the recent Gaza war occurred when the reports filtered out that Israel had bombed an UNRWA school killing 43 people,  some of them students. The UN and the world media blasted Israel, saying that she deliberately targeted the school. Others, were quick to point out Hamas' record of using UN Schools as human shields, firing from the buildings so Israeli soldiers would injure/kill the schools inhabitants when returning the fire.

The truth is, both sides were wrong. The UN School bombing was the Muhammad al Dura moment of the Gaza war. Israel didn't stike the school.  But it did strike close enough to the school for Hamas to claim that the school WAS hit. The comdemnations were unjustified, but like al Dura, the world believed and still believes the worst. In this case,  the Fantasy of the powerful Israeli military, striking an innocent school building.

Yesterday the UN finally admitted the truth.  The question is, why did they take so long?

CAMERA- What did John Ging and Chris Gunness Know and When Did They Know it

by Steven Stotsky

On January 7, 2009 news coverage across the world decried an Israeli attack on the UN-run al-Fakhura (Fakhoury) school in Jabaliya refugee camp the prior day. "Strike at Gaza School Kills 40" was the headline on the BBC’s web site, "Israeli shelling kills dozens at UN school in Gaza," charged the Guardian. "Massacre of Innocents as UN school is shelled," declared the Independent. "Toll at UN school reaches 43," observed the LA Times.

Three weeks later, long after the alleged incident had become firmly ensconced in public consciousness, an investigatory piece by Patrick Martin in the Toronto Globe and Mail (Jan. 29) revealed that no one sheltering on the school grounds had been killed. The misportrayal of the incident was due in no small measure to the misleading comments of John Ging, director of UNRWA’s Gaza operation and Chris Gunness, the organization’s public relations consultant.

Initial reports show that the basic facts about the shelling incident were known soon afterwards, but there was imprecision in the details. Israel’s foreign ministry spokesman, Yigal Palmor stated on the day of the incident that Israel "know(s) for a fact that a Hamas squad was firing mortar shells from the immediate vicinity of the school, from the school grounds." (CNN, Jan. 6, 2009)

When questioned what he meant by vicinity, Palmor added that the mortar team was "right next to the wall." The Israelis knew the exact location of the Hamas squad, but Palmor mistakenly placed them within the school grounds. Gunness and Ging responded to the accusation that Hamas fighters may have been located in the school grounds by demanded proof from the Israelis. Gunness released a statement asserting "We at UNRWA are 99.9 percent certain there were no militants at that school when this instance took place." (Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Jan. 7, 2009)

As a response to spokesman Palmor’s initial mistaken assertion that Hamas fighters were on the school grounds, the strong denials by Ging and Gunness were appropriate. But their response contains a crucial deception. By failing to clearly establish that the shells had exploded outside the school grounds and omitting the crucial fact that all of those killed were outside of the school grounds, Ging and Gunness allowed enough ambiguity to provide an opening for news reporters to run with the story that the school itself had been shelled and by implication, that those sheltering within it had been killed.

The Guardian wrote of the incident, "Two Israeli tank shells struck the school in Jabaliya refugee camp, spraying shrapnel on people inside and outside the building, according to news agency reports."

The Independent reported on January 11:

At least three mortar rounds landed in the compound, even though the UN had given Israel the co-ordinates of all its installations in Gaza to prevent any such attack.
In another piece titled "Massacre of Innocents as UN School is Shelled," (Jan. 7) the Independent did acknowledge that the shells hit outside the school, but nevertheless castigated Israel for its "strike on the school" and refered to the deaths that resulted from the shellings as "the school killings."

The BBC stated, "A number of children were among those who died when the al-Fakhura school in the Jabaliya refugee camp was hit, doctors at nearby hospitals said," although later on in the piece it did acknowledge that the shells hit outside of the school.

The Independent’s piece on Jan. 11, took its cue from comments made by Ging. The official UN transcript of Ging’s comments at a press conference five days after the incident states:

Ging said the school was clearly marked as a U.N. building and that GPS coordinates for the site had been provided to Israeli forces.

Asked whether Hamas militants had been in the vicinity of the Jabaliya school at the time of the strike, he said that he would not speculate on that.
Earlier, Ging was reported to have said, "I am very confident now that there was no militant activity. If anybody has evidence to the contrary, then let's bring it forward," (The Independent, Jan. 11, 2009)

These statements by Ging perpetuated the misperception that the school had been attacked. The facts were already known, as evidenced by a report in The New York Times that same day that "43 people died when the Israelis shelled a street next to a United Nations school in northern Jabaliya where refugees were taking shelter." Ging later admitted, "I know no one was killed in the school." So why did he make a point of publicizing that he gave the Israelis the GPS coordinates of the school? His statement about the GPS coordinates only served to implicate Israeli forces for firing on the school, when in fact the Israelis did not fire on the school.

The Globe and Mail article also points out the unusual flip-flop in the UN's Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) reporting on the incident. The Globe and Mail cites "early reports" by the OCHA that "three artillery shells landed outside the UNRWA Jabalia Prep. C Girls School ..." but in the OCHA’s more comprehensive weekly report, published three days later, the story changed claiming that "Israeli shelling directly hit two UNRWA schools ..." (one of those schools being al-Fakhura school.)

The lack of clarity and cloaking of crucial information by UNRWA had its effect. More than two weeks after the incident, the LA Times still reported that the Israelis had shelled the school. A Jan. 23 piece discussed the moral questions surrounding the

Israeli shelling of a school run by the United Nations Relief Works Agency in the Jabaliya refugee camp in northern Gaza. Hundreds of Palestinians had sought shelter there. The Israeli military says it encountered mortar rounds coming from the school and returned fire. The U.N. said that 42 civilians died and that no militants fired from the compound. (LA Times, Jan. 23, 2009)

It is also unclear why Ging denies that there were militants in the school compound and avoids discussion of Israel’s claim that there were Hamas fighters directly adjacent to the school grounds. Since the shells had targeted militants outside the compound, asserting that there were no militants inside the compound only confuses the issue by continuing to refute the initial inaccurate Israeli claim without addressing the facts that were by then known.

Ging has called for an investigation of the incident, yet curiously, the Globe and Mail article reveals that UN personnel at the school have been told not to speak with the media about the incident. Nevertheless, the Associated Press and others had no trouble finding Palestinian witnesses who saw the Hamas mortar squad.

Despite admitting no one in the school was killed, Ging continues to implicitly accuse Israel of targeting the school. He continues to rail against Israel, recently demanding that there was a need to establish accountability "for why the Israeli air force hit infrastructure of the state of Palestine rather than the infrastructure of terror, whatever that may be."

The Globe and Mail quotes Ging as stating, "Those in the school were all families seeking refuge. ... There's nowhere safe in Gaza". He also continues to condemn Israel’s behavior, asserting, "The state of Israel still has to answer for that. What did they know and what care did they take?"

Since it now appears that UNRWA’s Fakhoury school was not shelled and that all the fatalities and most of the casualties occurred outside the school grounds, it is also a fair question to ask of Ging and Gunness, what did they know and when did they know it? Why did they continue to make public pronouncements that only helped perpetuate the misperception that Israel had shelled the school rather than clarifying that Israel had shelled a street near the school?

Hello Helen,

I read with great interest  your comments on Islam. I would like to add to the following.

There are what we can call different "factions" within Islam. Not all believe that non believers should be killed but many do. All you have to do is listen to their videos, public speakers, read their publications, blogs, their Imams in the Mosques and they it's being said  openly.

The Jihad initially was against Israel and Jews but as you can all see it has become a international plan for world domination. The Muslim Brotherhood stated in their protocols over 70 years ago (I think the time frame is correct) their plan for WORLD DOMINATION and how and what to do the non believers.

We can all see that the "plan" is unfortunately working and all you have to do is look at Europe and see how they are slowly but surely kowtowing to any and all their demands. Today all you have to do is see how slowly but surely Sharia law is creeping into the banking systems in the USA up to and including the Federal Government.

Listen and believe that what they are saying they believe and are simply following their game plan. It can be stopped but it takes a concerted effort from all of us world wide to do just that.

Shalom,

Peter