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RE: HSIG - B Hussein's Flawed West Point Speech/Lecture
12/4/2009 9:19:51 AM
Hello Friends,

On December 1st B Hussein Obowma once again made a flawed speech/lecture at West Point. One thing you have to give B Hussein he is consistent and whenever he can dramatically screw something up he does and while he's teleprompter perfect with his "performance" he's a disaster with the message he conveys to the world and in this case the enemy.

Oliver North wrote a masterful article well worth reading.

Shalom,

Peter



by Oliver North

WASHINGTON -- The commander in chief's Dec. 1 lecture at the U.S.Military Academy has to go down in history as one of the strangestpresentations ever offered by a wartime president. The roboticallydelivered address is defended by administration officials as theculmination of a carefully thought-out "strategy review," in which Mr.Obama proffered the "rationale" for deploying additional troops andexplained "The Way Forward in Afghanistan and Pakistan." Unfortunately,it failed to do any of this.

Though he was standing before West Point's Corps of Cadets, thepresident's remarks were devoid of strategic vision, lacking anydefinition of victory and empty of the rhetoric elected leaders employto rally democratic people to a cause requiring the sacrifice of bloodand treasure. The speech did, however, provide another Obama "first."Giving the enemy a timetable for withdrawing American troops whilecommitting additional combat forces to a war zone is unprecedented. Nocommander in chief has done such a thing before -- because it makes nosense from a political or military perspective.

To his credit, Mr. Obama said, "I have determined that it isin our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troopsto Afghanistan." These additional troops, trainers and mobility assetsare needed desperately. But he offered no rationale for how he arrivedat a number that is 25 percent less than what his hand-pickedcommander, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, requested. Then he devoted fiveadditional passages to defending his statement that "after 18 months,our troops will begin to come home."

Since Tuesday, Mr. Obama has stopped talking about the war inAfghanistan and moved on to "creating jobs," a topic he raised fourtimes in his West Point speech. He left Defense Secretary Robert Gates,Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Adm. Mike Mullen, who ischairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and a host of nameless"administration spokesmen" to explain the extraordinary announcementthat we will "begin the transfer of our forces out of Afghanistan inJuly of 2011."

The contortions required to support this statement wereparticularly evident in congressional testimony this week, particularlyfor Gates. When the defense secretary appeared before the House ForeignAffairs Committee on Wednesday, Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., said to him,"You said in April 2007, with regard to Iraq, 'I've been pretty clearthat I think the enactment of specific deadlines would be a badmistake.'"

Pence summed up the good sense of most Americans by noting,"I'm someone who believes it never makes sense to tell the enemy whenyou're going to quit fighting in a war. ... Mr. Secretary ... what'schanged in your view here? What am I missing?"

The defense secretary's response offers a glimpse into thedeceptive double-think so prevalent in the Obama administration: "Firstof all, I have adamantly opposed deadlines; I opposed them in Iraq, andI opposed deadlines in Afghanistan." Gates continued: "But what thepresident has announced is the beginning of a process, not the end of aprocess, and it is clear that this will be a gradual process and -- ashe said last night -- based on conditions on the ground. So there is nodeadline for the withdrawal of American forces in Afghanistan."

The following day, in testimony before the Senate Foreign RelationsCommittee, Gates said, "July 2011 ... will be the beginning of aprocess -- an inflection point, if you will -- of transition for Afghanforces as they begin to assume greater responsibility for security."

Thus, a publicly announced "troop withdrawal timeline" and a"time frame for our transition to Afghan responsibility" won't tell theTaliban and al-Qaida how long they have to go to ground or hide out.According to the O-Team, July 2011 is just "the beginning of aprocess," an "inflection point." If that's what administrationofficials really believe, they aren't just trying to mislead us; theyare deceiving themselves.

Finally, Mr. Obama's self-centered West Point remarks -- hereferred to himself no fewer than 57 times -- also prove that he andhis speechwriters don't know history, either. He claimed thatAfghanistan will not become "another Vietnam" because "unlike Vietnam,we are not facing a broad-based popular insurgency." Whoever wrotethose words is simply wrong.

The Republic of Vietnam wasn't lost to a "popular insurgency."By April 1969, the Viet Cong had been eliminated as a military threat.The frail, flawed democratic government in Saigon collapsed in April1975 -- three years after the last American combat troops werewithdrawn -- because in December 1974, the country was invaded andsubsequently conquered by a hostile neighbor -- North Vietnam -- onlyafter the U.S. Congress rebuffed President Gerald Ford's request for$522 million in emergency aid.

A head of state who distorts the lessons of history is aperil. A leader who tries to deceive himself and his people isdangerous. We can only pray that this commander in chief isn'tcommitting 100,000 young Americans to a mission impossible in theshadows of the Hindu Kush.

About The Author


Oliver North is the founder and honorary chairman of Freedom Alliance and author of The Assassins .

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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
12/4/2009 10:29:36 AM

Hi Peter

Thanks for the article on gun control. I am dead against gun control. I will be sending the article to my list of around 200 people.

Unfortunately, we, in Canada, have stupid gun controls that has cost us, if I recall, in the billions of dollars, to dispose of the guns and everything that goes with that.

I think the reason so many want gun control is because they have never touched a gun let alone ever used one. You get a new kind of respect for guns when you know how to shoot them.

The single most group opposed to gun control I think are women who have never handled a gun. There are some men, too, who are afraid of guns. I was fortunate to be raised around guns and even as a child was an excellent shot, winning prizes for target shooting at school fund-raising affairs.

I even plucked a Magpie (bird) off a tree at about 70 feet away. I was home alone. I was about 12 years old. I was told that the actual body of a Magpie is about the size of quarter or 50¢ piece, the rest is feathers. Dad had said the gun shot high so I aimed just under the bird. Magpies are beautiful black and white birds but they are a real nuisance around the farm but I don't remember why. I just knew Dad didn't like them around the farm.

Ok, that is enough bragging for one day.

We need guns in our homes and they should be easily accessible. If you were a criminal, would you not think twice about entering a home if you knew that most people had a ready gun there?

The government has a healthier respect for its citizens if the politicians know we all have guns.

Criminals here in Canada still have guns. They are shooting each other from cars and in apartments. It helps to reduce the number of criminals but unfortunately some innocent people are being killed in the crossfire. This is the kind of thing we need to be afraid of, not law-abiding and responsible citizens owning guns.

Helen

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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
12/4/2009 11:47:59 AM
Hello Helen,

We should round you up with the R.S.P.C.A. for having shot an innocent bird that wished you no harm and was innocently and respectfully contributing to nature’s harmony and delight with its inimitable songs of love and peace. ;-) just kidding!

Guns are admittedly a subject to its own: After having established gun control well beyond the progressive loss of basic security and respect these laws participate equally for the loss of traditional art and culture. Gone are the creators of the most beautiful Purdeys and other brands that were the pride of their owners.

It seems consequential that not only when and since hunting and game sports are progressively outlawed that wildlife suffers consequentially as well as military arms unlawfully and proportionately increase at a prolific pace.

Once again in this area of life, the ruling oligarchies portray their scandalous and irresponsible contribution towards everything that in their minds due to lack of education are not understood and therefore destroyed. This is precisely what barbarism is all about; destroy what you do not understand. (Very Islamic!)

Robert.



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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
12/4/2009 1:29:53 PM
Hi Robert
I know you are just kidding but these birds are pests like rodents are. You 
never hear anyone say, "What a shame to kill God's creatures" when we
kill rats and mice, do we? :))
Have a great day!
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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
12/4/2009 8:45:24 PM
Quote:
Hi Robert
I know you are just kidding but these birds are pests like rodents are. You 
never hear anyone say, "What a shame to kill God's creatures" when we
kill rats and mice, do we? :))
Have a great day!
Helen


Hi Helen and Robert,

Don't fight kids the Purdys sure are "purty" and the Magpies are pests but using a Purdy on a Magpie would definitely be a waste more like a BB gun caliber.

On a more serious note. Gun control can be more accurately defined as people control and the people being controlled aren't the criminals cos they'll get their guns regardless of any "laws" passed by the Marxist/Socialist regime. Self defense is the right of all and that means against corrupt regimes too. There are so many things that need to be defended in this day and age that I doubt that people will allow their inalienable rights to be totally rescinded by corrupt politicians and false messiahs.

Shalom,

Peter

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